Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-14 Thread Ralph Katz
On 08/13/2015 03:01 PM, John Olson wrote:
 Here's the information on the cpu couldn't find # for wireless device
 
[snipped quote of prior messages]

John -- We can't help without more info.  There are experts on this list
who could help with more info from you. (I am just a debian user like you.)

Your Computer =
Desktop environment =  [xfce, gnome3, or ???]
Have you looked at your network manager settings?  Or are you using
wicd? In xfce, menu-Settings-Network Connections-WiFi.  What you want
should be there.

Paste the output of these commands from a terminal window:
dmesg |grep -i wireless
nmcli g
nmcli r
nmcli c
nmcli d

In any case, please let us know how you make out.

Good luck!
Ralph





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Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 13 August 2015 19:11:29 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
 Note that if you change the subject line, you start a new thread.  And
 every request should be made to the list, so that others can benefit.

No!!  That is the habit of Google.  It is a new conversation, not a new 
thread.  It is teh sdame thread.  The only way to start a new thread is to 
start fresh.

You complained about HTML.  I agree with objections to HTML, but it was surely 
in multipart?  Not ideal, but not as inconvenient as the constant thread 
breaking and hijacking that seems to go on now.

Lisi



Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:17:43 -0500
John Olson is1eep...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when
 installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie).  I have tried downloading and
 installing the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during
 initial install. I am new to Debian and I am trying to correct these
 following issues.
 
 says I need to install firmware for: *rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin* and also
 *rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw*
 
 When I do install these pkgs via (synaptic manager) they install fine
 but do not show any available wireless.. only allows Ethernet
 connection.  I have followed the WIKI Debian install information to
 the T and have found no solution.  If any information that could
 help with this situation is greatly appreciated.  Thank you for your
 time and consideration in reviewing my issue.

As the regulars know, my standard approach to 'difficult' hardware is
to run a recent Knoppix live cd/usb:

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

While this can be installed to a hard drive, it is not maintainable,
so there's no real point in doing so. It is a speciality Debian-based
distribution, and its speciality is detecting and driving hardware.
There's a very good chance that it will deal with your hardware, and if
it doesn't, I'm sure Herr Knopper would like to know about it, so that
the next version will.

If it does work, then there's a bit of drudgework in comparing modules
and other wireless-related software, and studying the boot logs. It has
got things running for me five or six times, and I haven't yet found any
hardware it can't manage. It's based on Debian Unstable, which is the
alpha-level test distribution, but almost certainly, anything you find
you need which isn't in Jessie can be shoehorned in.

In the meantime, it's worth telling us what your hardware is, as
someone may already know the answer.

-- 
Joe



help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread John Olson
Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when
installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie).  I have tried downloading and installing
the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during initial install.
I am new to Debian and I am trying to correct these following issues.

says I need to install firmware for: *rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin* and also
*rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw*

When I do install these pkgs via (synaptic manager) they install fine but
do not show any available wireless.. only allows Ethernet connection.  I
have followed the WIKI Debian install information to the T and have found
no solution.  If any information that could help with this situation is
greatly appreciated.  Thank you for your time and consideration in
reviewing my issue.


Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
Note that if you change the subject line, you start a new thread.  And
every request should be made to the list, so that others can benefit.

As I said:
 On my Jessie installation, there is a Network Manager Applet which has
 been adequate for my needs.

The network manager was installed by default, and you should see the icon
on your desktop.

Here are a few man pages which are listed in response to apropos network:

NetworkManager (8)   - network management daemon
NetworkManager.conf (5) - NetworkManager configuration file
networks (5) - network name information
nm-applet (1)- network monitor and control GUI applet
nm-connection-editor (1) - network connection editor for NetworkManager
nm-online (1)- ask NetworkManager whether the network is connected
nm-settings (5)  - Description of settings and properties of
NetworkManager connection profiles

If the manual pages do not provide the answer, a google search on debian
jessie wifi turns up several articles.

I generally use ethernet and have litte experience regarding
troubleshooting wifi.

RLH




Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
On Thu, August 13, 2015 12:17 pm, John Olson wrote:
 Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when
 installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie).

The first thing you need to do is configure your mail package to send
plain text only;  HTML is irritating; it has no place on a technical
list.

On my Jessie installation, there is a Network Manager Applet which has
been adequate for my needs.

RLH





Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread Gerard ROBIN
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:17:43PM -0500, John Olson wrote:
 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:17:43 -0500
 From: John Olson is1eep...@gmail.com
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: help trouble shooting

 says I need to install firmware for: *rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin* and also
 *rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw*
you installed firmware-realtek ?

 When I do install these pkgs via (synaptic manager) they install fine but
 do not show any available wireless.. only allows Ethernet connection.  I

you need to edit the file /etc/network/inerfaces 
for exemple like this:

auto eth0
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wpa-conf managed
wpa-ap-scan 1
wpa-sccan-ssid 1
wpa-ssid FOO
wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK
wpa-psk keyofFOO

and once this is done as root :

ifdown wlan0
ifup wlan0
or 
systemctl restart networking

hth.
-- 
Gerard
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Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
On Thu, August 13, 2015 5:39 pm, Bob Holtzman wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 01:11:29PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
...
 No. If you change the subject line you do *not* start a new thread. You
 hijack the existing one. Posting a new message is the only way to start a
 new thread.


Thanks.  Forgive me; it has been several years since I enjoyed access to a
client (Mutt) which understands threads.

RLH





Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 01:11:29PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
 Note that if you change the subject line, you start a new thread.  And
 every request should be made to the list, so that others can benefit.

No. If you change the subject line you do *not* start a new thread. You
hijack the existing one. Posting a new message is the only way to start
a new thread.

-- 

Bob Holtzman
A fair fight is the result of poor planning.



Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread doug


On 08/13/2015 02:25 PM, Joe wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:17:43 -0500
John Olson is1eep...@gmail.com wrote:


Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when
installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie).  I have tried downloading and
installing the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during
initial install. I am new to Debian and I am trying to correct these
following issues.

says I need to install firmware for: *rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin* and also
*rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw*

When I do install these pkgs via (synaptic manager) they install fine
but do not show any available wireless.. only allows Ethernet
connection.  I have followed the WIKI Debian install information to
the T and have found no solution.  If any information that could
help with this situation is greatly appreciated.  Thank you for your
time and consideration in reviewing my issue.

/snip/

In the meantime, it's worth telling us what your hardware is, as
someone may already know the answer.

Yes, that could be important. For instance, on this Dell laptop, there 
is a button that must be
pushed to enable wi-fi. If you don't push it, no tickee, no shirtee! (It 
says wifi on it in microscopic letters.)


--doug



Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
On Thu, August 13, 2015 1:55 pm, doug wrote:
 Yes, that could be important. For instance, on this Dell laptop, there
 is a button that must be pushed to enable wi-fi. If you don't push it, no
 tickee, no shirtee! (It says wifi on it in microscopic letters.)

On Lenovo laptops, the button is a slide switch under the front of the
keyboard.

That button is a good thing (TM):  it conserves battery power as well
preventing needlessly subjection of your lap to radiation.  Some people
actually use a laptop for productive work; and unless you are browsing,
email, and videoconferencing, why maintain a wifi connection?

Inasmuch as wifi radiation is essentially the same as cellular phone
radiation, and some research indicates that a few years of
phone-held-up-to-the-ear cellular usage can cause a brain tumor.

RLH




Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread John Olson
Here's the information on the cpu couldn't find # for wireless device
On Aug 13, 2015 1:55 PM, doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:


 On 08/13/2015 02:25 PM, Joe wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:17:43 -0500
 John Olson is1eep...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when
 installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie).  I have tried downloading and
 installing the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during
 initial install. I am new to Debian and I am trying to correct these
 following issues.

 says I need to install firmware for: *rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin* and also
 *rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw*

 When I do install these pkgs via (synaptic manager) they install fine
 but do not show any available wireless.. only allows Ethernet
 connection.  I have followed the WIKI Debian install information to
 the T and have found no solution.  If any information that could
 help with this situation is greatly appreciated.  Thank you for your
 time and consideration in reviewing my issue.

 /snip/

 In the meantime, it's worth telling us what your hardware is, as
 someone may already know the answer.

 Yes, that could be important. For instance, on this Dell laptop, there is
 a button that must be
 pushed to enable wi-fi. If you don't push it, no tickee, no shirtee! (It
 says wifi on it in microscopic letters.)

 --doug