Re: help with dselect (on m68k)

2000-01-28 Thread dkphoto
OK, I've figured out (at least partially) what is going on. dselect is 
working just fine and so is everything else, except the actual CD. I gave 
up on dselect and rebooted, then mounted the debian CD and discovered 
that my system sees all the folders on it as just plain text files. 
That's why it can't find the directories when I direct it to them.
This is probably my fault, though I'm not exactly sure why. I downloaded 
the cd image from the debian ftp site and made a CD. I was sure to make 
it 9660 format and can see all the files and folders on it with my Mac, I 
just can't get to them with the Linux box.

Has anyone made a CD for 68K Mac from this image before? Is so, what is 
the secret. I tried making another disk at only 2x speed and that didn't 
work either. I know I have a complete valid CD image, I just can't copy 
it.

David Kachel


Re: help with dselect (on m68k)

2000-01-28 Thread paul

On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, David said:
 OK, I've figured out (at least partially) what is going on. dselect is 
 working just fine and so is everything else, except the actual CD. I gave 
 up on dselect and rebooted, then mounted the debian CD and discovered 
 that my system sees all the folders on it as just plain text files. 
 That's why it can't find the directories when I direct it to them.
 This is probably my fault, though I'm not exactly sure why. I downloaded 
 the cd image from the debian ftp site and made a CD. I was sure to make 
 it 9660 format and can see all the files and folders on it with my Mac, I 
 just can't get to them with the Linux box.
 
 Has anyone made a CD for 68K Mac from this image before? Is so, what is 
 the secret. I tried making another disk at only 2x speed and that didn't 
 work either. I know I have a complete valid CD image, I just can't copy 
 it.

What command did you use to make the cd?  You need to use a byte for byte 
duplicator in order to make the cd from the image. Did you use Linux to make 
the cd with dd if=[/file/cd/image] of=[/device/name/of/cdwriter] or did you 
use a mac utility?  A byte for byte duplicator will put the filesystem on the 
cd for you as it is contained in the image.

-ptw- 


Re: help with dselect (on m68k)

2000-01-28 Thread dkphoto
 OK, I've figured out (at least partially) what is going on. dselect is 
 working just fine and so is everything else, except the actual CD. I gave 
 up on dselect and rebooted, then mounted the debian CD and discovered 
 that my system sees all the folders on it as just plain text files. 
 That's why it can't find the directories when I direct it to them.
 This is probably my fault, though I'm not exactly sure why. I downloaded 
 the cd image from the debian ftp site and made a CD. I was sure to make 
 it 9660 format and can see all the files and folders on it with my Mac, I 
 just can't get to them with the Linux box.
 
 Has anyone made a CD for 68K Mac from this image before? Is so, what is 
 the secret. I tried making another disk at only 2x speed and that didn't 
 work either. I know I have a complete valid CD image, I just can't copy 
 it.

What command did you use to make the cd?  You need to use a byte for byte 
duplicator in order to make the cd from the image. Did you use Linux to make 
the cd with dd if=[/file/cd/image] of=[/device/name/of/cdwriter] or did you 
use a mac utility?  A byte for byte duplicator will put the filesystem on 
the 
cd for you as it is contained in the image.


I found the problem and made another CD last night (the third!). It works 
just fine. Now all I have to do is wrestle with dselect's intransigent 
march to the sea!

Thanks.

David Kachel


Re: help with dselect (on m68k)

2000-01-27 Thread paul
Clyde was just trying to help you, you need to be more patient and read more 
carefully.  On most install cds, the distribution path is: 
/debian/dists/stable

If it is not there your on your own. I would suggest exploring the cd and 
writing down the path when you've found it, then go back to dselect. My 
expirience with dselect (on i386) tells me that the standard path to the 
distribution is usually mentioned in the dialog when you are asked for the 
path.  If the suggested path is incorect, then you must look for it yourself.  
And yes, there ARE non-standard install cds out there.
good luck,

-ptw-



Re: help with dselect (on m68k)

2000-01-27 Thread dkphoto
Clyde was just trying to help you, you need to be more patient and read more 
carefully.

You're right. It's been a very frustrating day all around. Sorry.

It seems I do indeed also have an issue with mounting the CD. Dselect 
asks me for the name of a block device. Since I cannot find that term 
anywhere in any of the documentation, I'm stuck! What is a block device, 
and how do I get its name? (Should I name it Shirly, Bruce, Albatross?)

David Kachel


Re: help with dselect (on m68k)

2000-01-27 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, dkphoto wrote:

 It seems I do indeed also have an issue with mounting the CD. Dselect 
 asks me for the name of a block device. Since I cannot find that term 
 anywhere in any of the documentation, I'm stuck! What is a block device, 
 and how do I get its name? (Should I name it Shirly, Bruce, Albatross?)

amber{jgg}~#dmesg | grep -i cd
hdb: CD-ROM 36X/AKW, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdb: ATAPI 36X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.55

/dev/hdb is the block device name for the CD. It will be printed during
bootup, but you can review the boot messages with the 'dmesg' command. You
should edit /etc/fstab and put an entry like this:

/dev/hdb/cdromauto   noauto,ro,defaults,user0  0

Depending on your m68k, your CD interface may be something entirely
different (scsi?) or it may need a special module..  Look at the boot
messages.

Jason


Re: help with dselect (on m68k)

2000-01-27 Thread paul
David Kachel wrote: 
 You're right. It's been a very frustrating day all around. Sorry.
 
 It seems I do indeed also have an issue with mounting the CD. Dselect 
 asks me for the name of a block device. Since I cannot find that term 
 anywhere in any of the documentation, I'm stuck! What is a block device, 
 and how do I get its name? (Should I name it Shirly, Bruce, Albatross?)
 

Block device names follow a simple naming convention under Linux. For example, 
the first disk on the first ide controller is always /dev/hda, the second is 
always /dev/hdb, etc.  I believe, but am not sure, that the m68k achetecture 
uses scsi devices only. Scsi devices would be named /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc. 
On your system you would need to know how many scsi devices are installed on 
your scsi controller (I believe your machine is likely to only have one scsi 
controller, but I could be wrong.) Check the scsi id numbers on each of your 
scsi devices and determine where your cdrom fits in the order. (if you have 
three scsi devices with scsi id numbers 1, 3, and 6, and your cdrom has been 
assigned scsi id 6, then your cdrom is /dev/sdc).

I hope that this helps somewhat.  My help may be inacurate in some minor ways 
as I am not familiar with the m68k archetecture. You can feel free to flame me 
horribly if I've steered you wrong.  I sugest that you visit 
http://www.linux-m68k.org , http://www.mac.linux-m68k for better 
information.

Have fun!

-ptw-