Re: how to practice.

2012-05-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
thanks guys , learned new things and Good tips also.  :)

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Freeman hew...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:18:20 +0500
 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one
 and half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe,
 someone said to me lately that if you start loving black and white
 terminal then you will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally
 can experience this thing at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I
 consider myself a newbie in Linux but according to my previous
 experience if i don’t practice I will forget things very easy (as
 there are tons of commands to remember which I will forget with less
 or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros that how you
 guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the
 previous work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services
 there is only the log which i have to see for further errors. So how
 it is possible to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with
 that I can move forward with the new goals.


 Some good ideas in this thread. I too have a search-able directory of
 notes. Forgot about the flash cards; so, reading this list helps refresh
 memory.

 I like to use dwww, which does a good job of searching a term in all
 installed docs and manuals, of which I install many.

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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-21 Thread darkestkhan
2012/5/21 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com:
 thanks guys , learned new things and Good tips also.  :)


You can also use flashcard program (like mnemosyne or anki) as a way
to not forget commands.

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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one and
 half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone said to
 me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then you will
 never look back to Windows GUI. I literally can experience this thing at the
 stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a newbie in Linux but
 according to my previous experience if i don’t practice I will forget things
 very easy (as there are tons of commands to remember which I will forget
 with less or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros that how you
 guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the previous work.
 Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is only the log
 which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible to keep in my
 mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move forward with the new
 goals.




Salam, Muhammad! Almost anything that you need to practice on the
computer, you can practice with this Anki:
http://ankisrs.net/index.html

I have a few Anki decks for Linux commands and also for programming. I
don't know what I would do without it.


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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 04:55:48PM -0700, Freeman wrote:
 I like to use dwww, which does a good job of searching a term in all
 installed docs and manuals, of which I install many.

apt-cache show recoll

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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-21 Thread Johann Spies
Hallo Mohammad,

 So how it is possible to keep in my mind all the old stuff and
 along with that I can move forward with the new goals.
 

I do not think it is possible to remember everything.  One remembers
best those thing that you use regularly.

What I do to help me, is to read a lot, to keep notes of tips or recipes
I came across that I think I might use in the future (I use something
like evernote, freemind or hnb for this).

I was system administrator for about 10 years and have used Linux since
1995.  Now in a different position where I mostly program and do
database/web development I regularly find that I have forgotten some
handy commands that I have used while I was system administrator.

Fortunately it not difficult to find the solution if you know where to
refresh your mind.

Things like 'apropos',  'wajig search', searching my own notes and then
of cause http://www.google.com  ... :)

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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-20 Thread Freeman
On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:18:20 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one
 and half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe,
 someone said to me lately that if you start loving black and white
 terminal then you will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally
 can experience this thing at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I
 consider myself a newbie in Linux but according to my previous
 experience if i don’t practice I will forget things very easy (as
 there are tons of commands to remember which I will forget with less
 or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros that how you
 guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the
 previous work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services
 there is only the log which i have to see for further errors. So how
 it is possible to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with
 that I can move forward with the new goals.
 

Some good ideas in this thread. I too have a search-able directory of
notes. Forgot about the flash cards; so, reading this list helps refresh
memory.

I like to use dwww, which does a good job of searching a term in all
installed docs and manuals, of which I install many.

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how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one and
half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone said
to me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then you
will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally can experience this thing
at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a newbie in
Linux but according to my previous experience if i don’t practice I will
forget things very easy (as there are tons of commands to remember which I
will forget with less or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros
that how you guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the
previous work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is
only the log which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible
to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move forward
with the new goals.



Thanks


Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Gary Dale

On 18/05/12 08:18 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:


Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one 
and half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, 
someone said to me lately that if you start loving black and white 
terminal then you will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally can 
experience this thing at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I 
consider myself a newbie in Linux but according to my previous 
experience if i don’t practice I will forget things very easy (as 
there are tons of commands to remember which I will forget with less 
or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros that how you guys 
manage to remember all the commands and practice all the previous 
work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is only 
the log which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible 
to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move 
forward with the new goals.


Thanks

If you do things often enough, you remember the stuff you need to 
remember. And keep reading. You never know when you'll find something 
really useful or interesting.


Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Soare Catalin
On May 18, 2012 3:40 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:

 On 18/05/12 08:18 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one
and half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone
said to me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then
you will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally can experience this
thing at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a newbie
in Linux but according to my previous experience if i don’t practice I will
forget things very easy (as there are tons of commands to remember which I
will forget with less or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros
that how you guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the
previous work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is
only the log which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible
to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move forward
with the new goals.



 Thanks

 If you do things often enough, you remember the stuff you need to
remember. And keep reading. You never know when you'll find something
really useful or interesting.

You can always write simple bash scripts in some work directory and comment
them to remember what they do. And also, use the bash_history file, after
you've set a larger limit to it. This is how I do.
However, nothing beats practice -- find yourself a project and dive in
after reading a bit.

Good luck!

I wish I was sysadminning a Linux environment :-(


Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread shawn wilson
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one and
 half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone said to
 me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then you will
 never look back to Windows GUI.

b/w terminals are lame, most terminals support (at least) 256 colors,
so use them - i like a bright blue prompt with [user@host : pwd]
(actually, sometimes each field is a different color if i feel like
playing). and a bright yellow cursor. i like my black background
though.

 I literally can experience this thing at the
 stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a newbie in Linux but
 according to my previous experience if i don’t practice I will forget things
 very easy (as there are tons of commands to remember which I will forget
 with less or 0 practice).

so, install it as your desktop environment, use it for your servers,
use it as low cost or backup routers (i'd go bsd for this but...).

 so i am here to ask all the old Pros that how you
 guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the previous work.

i remember the basics really. the rest will come as you have a problem
you bang your head against for a day and then find there is a command
that solves it - you don't really forget after that. seriously,
(besides built-in bash or zsh commands) i probably use ls, echo, cat,
file, vim, chown, chmod, nmap, lsof, iptables, ssh (ssh-keygen etc
too), screen (trying tmux), perl, gdb, gcc, make, service, apt-get,
yum, chkconfig, git, find, xargs, grep.

what's that, about 20 commands? i even included project specific
commands (and forgot others for managing vms etc) for dealing with
code and network stuff.

 Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is only the log
 which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible to keep in my
 mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move forward with the new
 goals.

actually, you really shouldn't have to review logs much (see
graylog2 or splunk if you feel like paying). and really, i'm going
through the opposite change as you - i'm trying to get into doing more
things with code on windows and can't remember simple stuff like netsh
commands and the like for basic config (because i hadn't done much
with windows for ~3 years).


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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Shane Johnson
For me when I use it enough it sticks.  But there is a old quote someone
told me that I don't know the source of, but it really helped me - it goes
along the lines of Why should I memorize something I don't need when I can
just go read it from a book when I do need it.

For me, I take that to mean learn everything you can, but for the stuff
that doesn't stick, know where to find it.

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:54 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one and
  half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone
 said to
  me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then you will
  never look back to Windows GUI.

 b/w terminals are lame, most terminals support (at least) 256 colors,
 so use them - i like a bright blue prompt with [user@host : pwd]
 (actually, sometimes each field is a different color if i feel like
 playing). and a bright yellow cursor. i like my black background
 though.

  I literally can experience this thing at the
  stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a newbie in Linux
 but
  according to my previous experience if i don’t practice I will forget
 things
  very easy (as there are tons of commands to remember which I will forget
  with less or 0 practice).

 so, install it as your desktop environment, use it for your servers,
 use it as low cost or backup routers (i'd go bsd for this but...).

  so i am here to ask all the old Pros that how you
  guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the previous
 work.

 i remember the basics really. the rest will come as you have a problem
 you bang your head against for a day and then find there is a command
 that solves it - you don't really forget after that. seriously,
 (besides built-in bash or zsh commands) i probably use ls, echo, cat,
 file, vim, chown, chmod, nmap, lsof, iptables, ssh (ssh-keygen etc
 too), screen (trying tmux), perl, gdb, gcc, make, service, apt-get,
 yum, chkconfig, git, find, xargs, grep.

 what's that, about 20 commands? i even included project specific
 commands (and forgot others for managing vms etc) for dealing with
 code and network stuff.

  Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is only the log
  which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible to keep in
 my
  mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move forward with the
 new
  goals.

 actually, you really shouldn't have to review logs much (see
 graylog2 or splunk if you feel like paying). and really, i'm going
 through the opposite change as you - i'm trying to get into doing more
 things with code on windows and can't remember simple stuff like netsh
 commands and the like for basic config (because i hadn't done much
 with windows for ~3 years).


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[OT] Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:18:20 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

(you can start by remembering that you don't have to send html formatted 
posts to mailing lists, at least for this :-P)

 Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one
 and half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone
 said to me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then
 you will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally can experience this
 thing at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a
 newbie in Linux but according to my previous experience if i don’t
 practice I will forget things very easy (as there are tons of commands
 to remember which I will forget with less or 0 practice). so i am here
 to ask all the old Pros that how you guys manage to remember all the
 commands and practice all the previous work. Since after the deployment
 of some Linux services there is only the log which i have to see for
 further errors. So how it is possible to keep in my mind all the old
 stuff and along with that I can move forward with the new goals.

The best to avoid forgetting things is using them: forget about the X 
server, forget the GUI (don't install them), jump to the console and work 
for there.

Anyway, I as an admin, don't pay much attention in remembering the exact 
commands and their related parameters (there's always the man page I can 
quickly query) but I'm more interested in learning and applying new 
computer concepts, good administering and managing techniques, I mean, 
I'm more interested in *what* is the best to do than *how* to do it, so 
for daily tasks I rely on Midnight Commander which helps me a lot with 
the usual sysadmin's workflow.

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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Phil Dobbin
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On 18/05/12 13:18, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one and
 half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone said
 to me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then you
 will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally can experience this thing
 at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a newbie in
 Linux but according to my previous experience if i don’t practice I will
 forget things very easy (as there are tons of commands to remember which I
 will forget with less or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros
 that how you guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the
 previous work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is
 only the log which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible
 to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move forward
 with the new goals.


As people have pointed out, the command line is the way to go. It can be
intimidating (i.e.`rm` unless you apply safeguards, does *mean* `rm`
especially if you put a `-Rf` after it) but that's part of its beauty:
simplicity  absolute power when run as root (or sudo).

I use man pages a lot. I also use vim for everything. Reading man pages
with less can be a tedious affair so I put:

`manvim() { vim -c Man$1 -c 'silent! only';}` :

`export TERM=xterm-256-color`

in my ~/.bashrc

:

`source $VIMRUNTIME/ftplugin/man.vim`

in my ~/.vimrc  then calling the man page like so `$ manvim foo`

 they're much easier to read. For everything else, I have hard copies
of Unix and Linux System Administration Handbook by Evi Nemeth 
others  Classic Shell Scripting: Hidden Commands that Unlock the Power
of Unix by Arnold Robbins  Sed  Awk by Dale Dougherty. For
everything else, there's the internet.

As was pointed out by an earlier poster, just keep reading. I read
hundreds of pages of documentation a day on every different circumstance
I'm likely to encounter. That in itself is a full-time job :-).

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Indulekha
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 06:54:17PM +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On 18/05/12 13:18, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 
  Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one and
  half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone said
  to me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then you
  will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally can experience this thing
  at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a newbie in
  Linux but according to my previous experience if i don’t practice I will
  forget things very easy (as there are tons of commands to remember which I
  will forget with less or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros
  that how you guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the
  previous work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is
  only the log which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible
  to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move forward
  with the new goals.
 
 
 As people have pointed out, the command line is the way to go. It can be
 intimidating (i.e.`rm` unless you apply safeguards, does *mean* `rm`
 especially if you put a `-Rf` after it) but that's part of its beauty:
 simplicity  absolute power when run as root (or sudo).
 
 I use man pages a lot. I also use vim for everything. Reading man pages
 with less can be a tedious affair so I put:
 
 `manvim() { vim -c Man$1 -c 'silent! only';}` :
 
 `export TERM=xterm-256-color`
 
 in my ~/.bashrc
 
 :
 
 `source $VIMRUNTIME/ftplugin/man.vim`
 
 in my ~/.vimrc  then calling the man page like so `$ manvim foo`
 
  they're much easier to read. For everything else, I have hard copies
 of Unix and Linux System Administration Handbook by Evi Nemeth 
 others  Classic Shell Scripting: Hidden Commands that Unlock the Power
 of Unix by Arnold Robbins  Sed  Awk by Dale Dougherty. For
 everything else, there's the internet.
 
 As was pointed out by an earlier poster, just keep reading. I read
 hundreds of pages of documentation a day on every different circumstance
 I'm likely to encounter. That in itself is a full-time job :-).
 

+1 on vim, also vifm for file management.
You have to build vifm from source though,the ancient version in 
the repos is not nearly as useful as 0.7+.
Customize keybindings and file associations, and it really rocks.
:)
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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread shawn wilson
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:


 +1 on vim, also vifm for file management.
 You have to build vifm from source though,the ancient version in
 the repos is not nearly as useful as 0.7+.
 Customize keybindings and file associations, and it really rocks.

vi-WHAT? you mean :E ?


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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread keith
On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:18:20 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one and
 half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, someone said
 to me lately that if you start loving black and white terminal then you
 will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally can experience this thing
 at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I consider myself a newbie in
 Linux but according to my previous experience if i don’t practice I will
 forget things very easy (as there are tons of commands to remember which I
 will forget with less or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros
 that how you guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the
 previous work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services there is
 only the log which i have to see for further errors. So how it is possible
 to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with that I can move forward
 with the new goals.
 
 
 
 Thanks

What I have done since my first days of learning 'DOS', is to keep a small 
notebook at hand  jot down everything I think I might want to use into it. Not 
the basic stuff, but things like how to configure various services, etc.

Basic commands embed themselves into memory the more you use them. The 
commandline is very attractive for getting things done,  usually, you have 
more options than with a graphical program.

Midnight Commander (mc) is one program to get to know,  also 'screen' would be 
another very useful program.


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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 18 mai 12, 17:18:20, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 ... (as there are tons of commands to remember which I
 will forget with less or 0 practice)

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/refcard/refcard

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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:23:04 +0100, keith wrote in message 
20120518192304.52e1b58f00613dcfa96cc...@gmail.com:

 What I have done since my first days of learning 'DOS', is to keep a
 small notebook at hand  jot down everything I think I might want to
 use into it. Not the basic stuff, but things like how to configure
 various services, etc.

..an alternative notebook idea; set up a cron job to mail 
yourself the diff of todays .bash_history and yesterdays 
command line history, and, make an habit of reading and 
commenting on it while you still remember why and how etc 
you did whatever you did today.  

..kept in its own mail archive, database etc, your command 
line history will eventually do for you what you used to 
come pleading to d-u for, and I guess this new habit can 
lift d-u to a nice new level. ;o)

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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Alex Hutton
I have a bunch of text files in a particular directory that I use to
record various ideas that come to me.

I generally name the files like this: i_keyword1_keyword2_keyword3.txt ,

so for example, i0324_toread_programming_PHP_MVC_OOP.txt

So I've got this directory with all these files in them.

The directory has an environment variable called $ideas . So if I type
ls $ideas
I get the file list and I don't have to retype the path (which is long).

If I want to get the latest file I can type
ls $ideas |tail -n1

If I want create a simple file I can use:
echo whatever my idea is  $ideas/iNNN_keyword_keyword.txt
I can also use ed or vim.

Actually, I could write a bash script that would automatically
calculate the next index number.

If I want to find ideas relating to something I can type
ls $ideas |grep whatever
 eg:
ls $ideas |grep toread
that would gives me a reading list. Actually this is a list of reading
lists, I could write something a bit more extensive to using xargs to
cat them all together then pipe the result to less to get a complete
reading list.

These little exercises can give you an opportunity to become
comfortable with the linux console.

A couple of commands things i use frequently are cal and concalc. I
want to use dc instead of concalc but haven't bothered to learn dc
yet.

Another idea, install and configure conky. You can learn a fair bit by
playing with all of conky's options. For example, I have a particular
directory containing active projects (actually, the directory contains
symlinks to directories containing active projects), and my conky
configuration is set to automatically display a todo list of active
projects based on the contents of that directory. When I finish a
project I delete the symlink and it disappears from the todo list.


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Re: how to practice.

2012-05-18 Thread Slavko
Ahoj,

Dňa Sat, 19 May 2012 06:54:57 +1000 Alex Hutton highspeed...@gmail.com
napísal:

 I have a bunch of text files in a particular directory that I use to
 record various ideas that come to me.

a am using the keepnote, the python GTK2 app for hierarchical notes with
images and text formating. It provides the note's names search and fulltext
search too...

It is a part of testing now.

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