Re: howto: downgrade lenny-sarge -or- fresh sarge install?

2009-04-19 Thread tom campbell
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 13:58 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
snip
 Just out of curiosity: do you intend to open a museum of modern
 software, or why else do you want to install sarge?

:)  I'm doing some embedded development on an arm board that ships with
sarge and wanted a desktop up to plow around and look at files,
experiment with packages in a friendly, slightly more stable
environment.


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 Your best bet is probably to set up a sarge chroot with debootstrap,

Worked like a champ!
Thanks so much.
I continue to be impressed with debian.

tc



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howto: downgrade lenny-sarge -or- fresh sarge install?

2009-04-18 Thread tom campbell
Hello all:

Seeking some guidance on how to get a sarge install up on a x86 desktop.
There aren't any hardware issues, lenny installs fine from CD+net.

I tried booting from debian-sarge-3.1-mini.iso (downloaded from sarge
archive).  I manually adusted the mirrors to point to
archive.debian.org/debian-archive.debian. and installer found the
Releases file.

When it hit the installer page of which...? stable, unstable... it
couldn't find the files (presumably because directory structure changed
when it was archived).  I couldn't find a way to manually tell it files
to install.

I did a full of install of lenny (which is now up).

Anyone have any suggestions on how to:
downgrade the running lenny  -or-
how to install sarge directly?

any pointers appreciated.

I'm an experienced linux user, but new to Debian.  I'm coming from rpm
world of Fedora/RedHat/Centos so I'm new to apt,synaptic et all also.

BTW I certainly like everything I see so far about debian.  The
developers certainly appear to get it

thanks in advance
tom campbell
www.DinkumSoftware.com




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Re: howto: downgrade lenny-sarge -or- fresh sarge install?

2009-04-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-04-18 11:35 +0200, tom campbell wrote:

 Seeking some guidance on how to get a sarge install up on a x86 desktop.
 There aren't any hardware issues, lenny installs fine from CD+net.

Just out of curiosity: do you intend to open a museum of modern
software, or why else do you want to install sarge?

 I tried booting from debian-sarge-3.1-mini.iso (downloaded from sarge
 archive).  I manually adusted the mirrors to point to
 archive.debian.org/debian-archive.debian. and installer found the
 Releases file.

 When it hit the installer page of which...? stable, unstable... it
 couldn't find the files (presumably because directory structure changed
 when it was archived).  I couldn't find a way to manually tell it files
 to install.

The reason is probably that there aren't any {{old,,un}stable,testing}
symlinks on archive.debian.org; it would be unclear to which
distributions they should point anyway.

 I did a full of install of lenny (which is now up).

 Anyone have any suggestions on how to:
   downgrade the running lenny  -or-
   how to install sarge directly?

 any pointers appreciated.

Your best bet is probably to set up a sarge chroot with debootstrap,
i.e. with the command

# debootstrap sarge ./sarge-chroot http://archive.debian.org/debian

If that works, you can chroot to that basic installation and install
more software.  Note that setting up fstab and networking, installing a
kernel and a bootloader still needs to be done if you want to boot into
sarge; and you need an extra partition then as well.

Sven


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