Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-13 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:03:43 +0200
Andreas Goesele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
 browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow or
 even makes the browsers hang:
 
 In all case it takes a long time for the download manager to start and
 saving too is very slow. With firefox (iceweasel) I once experienced a
 freeze, galeon and epiphany freeze with every attempt to save.
 
 My suspicion is that the download manager reads first my home
 directory - which is huge - and for that reason takes long to
 start. But under sarge this wasn't a problem and other programs too
 manage to open my home directory in a reasonable time.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks a lot in advance!
 
 Andreas Goesele
 
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I heard somewhere (can't remember where) that it may be to do with ipv6 support 
in Mozilla.  Try disabling it.  Typing 'about:config' in the address bar will 
get you to the configuration options.  You should be able to find the option 
from there.

Ananda


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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-13 Thread Matthew K Poer
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Andreas Goesele wrote:
 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:03:43PM +0200, Andreas Goesele wrote:
 
 having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
 browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow or
 even makes the browsers hang:
 Try downloading a large package using wget, and see how fast it goes.
 
 Very fast :-)
 
 This way we'll know if it's your connection or the Mozilla engine.
 
 No, it's definitely Mozilla related.
 
 Have you tried it with Konqeuror yet?
 
 Konqueror opens (visibly) my home directory for saving - that for the
 first time takes some time, but for later saving it's much faster
 than with Mozilla. Saving itself goes very fast. (Very slow for
 Mozilla etc.)
 
 Thanks!
 
 Andreas Goesele
 
Perhaps you can edit the Download Preferances in Gecko-Based w/e to
download to a differant directory? Try /tmp or even /home/you/download/.
If it has to do with your home directory being very large, this may help.

Also, perhaps an aptitude reinstall of some of the mozilla/gecko
libraries will help? It seems that these are common in all packages:
libatk1.0-0
libcairo2
libfontconfig1
libglib2.0-0
libgtk2.0-0
libstdc++6
libx11-6
libxi6
libxrender1
zlib1g

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-13 Thread macondo

Ananda Samaddar wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:03:43 +0200
Andreas Goesele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow or
even makes the browsers hang:

In all case it takes a long time for the download manager to start and
saving too is very slow. With firefox (iceweasel) I once experienced a
freeze, galeon and epiphany freeze with every attempt to save.

My suspicion is that the download manager reads first my home
directory - which is huge - and for that reason takes long to
start. But under sarge this wasn't a problem and other programs too
manage to open my home directory in a reasonable time.

Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Andreas Goesele

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I heard somewhere (can't remember where) that it may be to do with ipv6 support 
in Mozilla.  Try disabling it.  Typing 'about:config' in the address bar will 
get you to the configuration options.  You should be able to find the option 
from there.

Ananda



After about:config Enter
type 'dns' in the filter space and choose

network.dns.disableIPv6

right click on it and Toggle the value to read:

true


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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-13 Thread Andreas Goesele
macondo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ananda Samaddar wrote:
 I heard somewhere (can't remember where) that it may be to do with
 ipv6 support in Mozilla.  Try disabling it.  Typing 'about:config'
 in the address bar will get you to the configuration options.  You
 should be able to find the option from there.

 After about:config Enter
 type 'dns' in the filter space and choose

 network.dns.disableIPv6

 right click on it and Toggle the value to read:

 true

While this tip indeed improved my download speed :-), it didn't change
anything about the saving behaviour :-(

Thanks a lot!

Andreas Goesele

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-13 Thread Andreas Goesele
Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Perhaps you can edit the Download Preferances in Gecko-Based w/e to
 download to a differant directory? Try /tmp or even /home/you/download/.
 If it has to do with your home directory being very large, this may help.

I tried this: But I can't change the download directory by setting it
in the preferences, in the prefs.js file or using
about:config. Firefox continues to save in the last directory I used,
whatever the settings. Very strange that.

I can change it by just choosing some other place in the the save as
dialog, but I cannot get rid of that dialog (in theory for instance
setting Saves files to Desktop should get away with that dialog, but
it doesn't).

When I change the directory things indeed get fast enough: But this is
still a problem, as I prefer to have everything in the same directory.

I also wonder, why this suddenly becomes a problem: The Debian sarge
Firefox didn't have that problem.

 Also, perhaps an aptitude reinstall of some of the mozilla/gecko
 libraries will help? It seems that these are common in all packages:
 libatk1.0-0
 libcairo2
 libfontconfig1
 libglib2.0-0
 libgtk2.0-0
 libstdc++6
 libx11-6
 libxi6
 libxrender1
 zlib1g

I checked those libraries. They seem to be all installed ok and there
are no stale libraries laying around, as far as I can see (using
ldconfig).

Thanks a lot!

Andreas Goesele

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-13 Thread Andreas Goesele
Andreas Goesele [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
 browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow
 or even makes the browsers hang:

I should have written saving a page is incredibly slow.

Now it's clear that this only is the case, if the download directory
has many files in it. (Other applications manage, so it is still a
problem.)

But now I'm wondering.

Earlier versions of firefox had their own save as dialog - giving
for instance the choice whether the just the html page, or the whole
page should be saved.

But now at least I get something which looks like the standard gnome
save as dialog. (I use KDE.) It's three part: Name, Save in Folder,
Browse for other folders. No choice of what to save. Is that now for
all etch users the case? Or could it be an indication of where lies my
problem? Why would this gnome save as dialog considered to be an
improvement?

Thanks again!

Andreas Goesele

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-13 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi Andreas.

Andreas Goesele, 14.04.2007 00:52:
 Earlier versions of firefox had their own save as dialog - giving
 for instance the choice whether the just the html page, or the whole
 page should be saved.
 
 But now at least I get something which looks like the standard gnome
 save as dialog. (I use KDE.) It's three part: Name, Save in Folder,
 Browse for other folders. No choice of what to save. Is that now for
 all etch users the case? Or could it be an indication of where lies my
 problem? Why would this gnome save as dialog considered to be an
 improvement?

You can restore the XUL-based dialog again by setting
ui.allow_platform_file_picker in about:config to false.


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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-13 Thread Andreas Goesele
Hi Mathias!

Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You can restore the XUL-based dialog again by setting
 ui.allow_platform_file_picker in about:config to false.

That solved my problem. Now saving is *really* fast, even in a large
folder! Great.

Hope developers will leave us with this choice in future!

Thanks a lot!

Andreas Goesele

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iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-12 Thread Andreas Goesele
Hi,

having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow or
even makes the browsers hang:

In all case it takes a long time for the download manager to start and
saving too is very slow. With firefox (iceweasel) I once experienced a
freeze, galeon and epiphany freeze with every attempt to save.

My suspicion is that the download manager reads first my home
directory - which is huge - and for that reason takes long to
start. But under sarge this wasn't a problem and other programs too
manage to open my home directory in a reasonable time.

Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Andreas Goesele

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-12 Thread Michael Pobega
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:03:43PM +0200, Andreas Goesele wrote:
 Hi,
 
 having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
 browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow or
 even makes the browsers hang:
 
 In all case it takes a long time for the download manager to start and
 saving too is very slow. With firefox (iceweasel) I once experienced a
 freeze, galeon and epiphany freeze with every attempt to save.
 
 My suspicion is that the download manager reads first my home
 directory - which is huge - and for that reason takes long to
 start. But under sarge this wasn't a problem and other programs too
 manage to open my home directory in a reasonable time.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks a lot in advance!
 
 Andreas Goesele
 

Try downloading a large package using wget, and see how fast it goes.
This way we'll know if it's your connection or the Mozilla engine.

Have you tried it with Konqeuror yet?

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-12 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Andreas Goesele wrote:


 Any suggestions?
 

Close previous iceweasel processes. Start iceweasel without loading any
extensions and see if it helps.

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-12 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:03:43PM +0200, Andreas Goesele wrote:
 having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
 browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow or
 even makes the browsers hang:
 
 In all case it takes a long time for the download manager to start and
 saving too is very slow. With firefox (iceweasel) I once experienced a
 freeze, galeon and epiphany freeze with every attempt to save.
 

This is one of serveral reasons that I gave up on the geko-based
browsers and went to Konqueror.  You can use it even if you don't use
KDE.

There _may_ be a solution but I just needed it to work, so I tried Konk
and haven't bothered to try to fix geko.

Doug.


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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-12 Thread Andreas Goesele
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Close previous iceweasel processes. Start iceweasel without loading any
 extensions and see if it helps.

I tried this, but it didn't help.

But thanks anyway!

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-12 Thread Andreas Goesele
Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:03:43PM +0200, Andreas Goesele wrote:

 having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
 browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow or
 even makes the browsers hang:

 Try downloading a large package using wget, and see how fast it goes.

Very fast :-)

 This way we'll know if it's your connection or the Mozilla engine.

No, it's definitely Mozilla related.

 Have you tried it with Konqeuror yet?

Konqueror opens (visibly) my home directory for saving - that for the
first time takes some time, but for later saving it's much faster
than with Mozilla. Saving itself goes very fast. (Very slow for
Mozilla etc.)

Thanks!

Andreas Goesele

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Re: iceweasel/iceape/epiphany/galeon download manager problems (etch)

2007-04-12 Thread Joe Hart
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Andreas Goesele wrote:
 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:03:43PM +0200, Andreas Goesele wrote:
 
 having moved from sarge to etch I now have a big problem with the
 browsers in the subject line: Downloading a page is incredibly slow or
 even makes the browsers hang:
 Try downloading a large package using wget, and see how fast it goes.
 
 Very fast :-)
 
 This way we'll know if it's your connection or the Mozilla engine.
 
 No, it's definitely Mozilla related.
 
 Have you tried it with Konqeuror yet?
 
 Konqueror opens (visibly) my home directory for saving - that for the
 first time takes some time, but for later saving it's much faster
 than with Mozilla. Saving itself goes very fast. (Very slow for
 Mozilla etc.)
 
 Thanks!
 
 Andreas Goesele
 

I have to warn you that some sites don't render well with Konqueror.
While overall it is very good, there are some sites that you might need
to tell konqueror to identify itself as something else (Tools  Change
Browser Identification).  That will fix the problem most of the time,
but not always.  Don't purge all of your browsers, keep at least 2 with
different engines just in case.  BTW, Konqueror is also quite a good
file manager.

Just a tip.

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