Bug in der Installation des tetex-bin-Paketes?
Hi, ich bin ein Debian-Newby. Habe gerade mit einer DVD vom Mai Sarge installiert (aber das sollte keine Sache sein, da mein Problem nach der Installation des Grundsystems beim späteren Einspielen weiterer Pakete per FTP aus dem Netz mit aptitude geschah). Ich habe im Modus expert24 installiert - falls das noch interessiert. Es geht um das Paket tetex-bin. Nun wurde ich (im Debian-Configurations-Teil base-config?) gefragt, ob ich weitere Trenn-Muster laden wollte, was ich bejahte. Theoretisch denke ich, dass im darauf folgenden Dialog bei mir die beiden Punkte German mit alter respektive neuer Rechtschreibung markiert sein sollten (was auch eine Seite vorher so angekündigt wurde). Allerdings sind die Punkte french[=patois] und ngerman[austrian-neue_Rechtschreibung] markiert. Da ich keine allzu positiven Erinnerungen an meine Französisch-Kenntnisse habe, wünschte ich mir, dass da sinnigerweise der Punkt german[=austrian-alte_Rechtschreibung] der zwischen diesen beiden Auswahlpunkten zu finden ist, markiert wäre statt der französischen Pattern... Kann mich jemand in der Vermutung bestätigen, dass dies vermutlich ein Fehler ist und dass der nicht in der älteren DVD begründet ist? An wen müsste ich mich dann zwecks Bugreport wenden? Den Maintainer des tetex-Paketes, des Debian-Installers oder sonst wen? Oder schreibe ich das an eine spezielle Liste oder in die Bug-Datenbank? Schönen Gruß und vielen Dank Thomas
Re: Bug in der Installation des tetex-bin-Paketes?
* Thomas Nunninger wrote: An wen müsste ich mich dann zwecks Bugreport wenden? Den Maintainer des tetex-Paketes, des Debian-Installers oder sonst wen? Oder schreibe ich das an eine spezielle Liste oder in die Bug-Datenbank? http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting Norbert -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: installation of tetex
There is a serious problem/bug in dpkg that prevents the correct removal of the old tex packages and then the installation of tetex. dpkg can't handle multiple packages which are to be replaced. So, do the following: - Purge all the old tex packages which are replaced by tetex. (E.g. go into dselect, select the tetex-packages, look which old tex packages are marked to be removed, purge the packages.) - Watch out that all config-files in /etc/texmf/ are removed, at least texmf.cnf is incompatible. (dpkg --purge should do this for you.) - Install the tetex packages. Don't install tetex over the old packages with --force**. You will get an inconsitent system. Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to install the following tetex packages 1548580 Feb 24 09:04 tetex-base_0.4pl6-2.deb 1482224 Feb 24 09:06 tetex-bin_0.4pl6-4.deb 50188 Feb 24 09:06 tetex-dev_0.4pl6-4.deb 4923348 Feb 24 09:07 tetex-doc_0.4pl6-1.deb 3161870 Feb 24 09:17 tetex-extra_0.4pl6-2.deb I began trying to do this within dselect. Because of conflicts with the currently installed versions of TeX, I needed to mark several TeX-related packages for removal. Installation of the tetex packages went ok then I removed the older tex-related packages that had been marked for removal. I noticed that a couple of macro packages seemed to be missing. According to dpkg -L they should have been installed by tetex-extra. I decided to remove all the tetex packages and re-install them. My reasoning was that by installing tetex first then removing the older tex-related packages I may have inadvertently removed files that tetex packages installed. This is correct. You also removed the config files of tetex which leads you to the next problem: Removing the tetex packages and then trying to re-install fails in a couple of the postinst scripts. These scripts try to execute /usr/bin/texconfig but it complains that the TEXMFCNF environment variable is not set. I believe it may be intended to point at /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf. That file is listed in the output of dpkg -L tetex-base but it does not appear to be installed by that package. Because /usr/bin/texconfig is based on a dialog library, the error messages fly off the screen before you can read them. Any suggestions will be appreciated. It would help if you sent e-mail directly to me as well as to the list because I only receive the digests. -- Douglas Bates[EMAIL PROTECTED] Statistics Department608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madisonhttp://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ -- Christoph Martin, Uni-Mainz, Germany Internet-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
Paul == Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul --cut-here--- Paul You just have to append the following lines to Paul /var/lib/dpkg/status: I thought the ``provides'' field should contain ONLY the ``agreed'' (discussed in debian-devel) virtual package names. Does dpkg work if the virtual package names are not official? Paul Maybe somebody else has already developed a fine wrapper script Paul for an installation of the teTeX binary distribution without Paul dangerful messing around with system files? I think unlike netscape, most of teTeX should be free and therefore don't need a wrapper package a la netscape. -- Billy C.-M. Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Systems Engineering The Chinese University of Hong Kong -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Chow Chi-Ming wrote: I thought the ``provides'' field should contain ONLY the ``agreed'' (discussed in debian-devel) virtual package names. Does dpkg work if the virtual package names are not official? Obviously it does here without problems. Sorry, i don't know of this discussion. This debian-user list here is already too much to take for me for it's high traffic. ;-) Paul Maybe somebody else has already developed a fine wrapper script Paul for an installation of the teTeX binary distribution without Paul dangerful messing around with system files? I think unlike netscape, most of teTeX should be free and therefore don't need a wrapper package a la netscape. No, a wrapper is just for installing a binary distribution of a program not available in native Debian format. Binaries for teTeX could be installed just like netscape's inside the Debian package management scheme, that's all. Doesn't have anything to do with whether the program is free or not. But for teTeX is valid that it is available in source and that it is available under the GPL. Someone else in this list already suggested to use the RedHat *.rpm of teTeX for installation via the 'alien' command which should work as well. If it wouldn't be too much to ask from a naive ethnologist like me i'd really love to package teTeX as native Debian package and provide it for the rest of the Debian user commnity. But that's probably too much strange magic for my small brain... ;-) Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On 6 Jan 1997, James LewisMoss wrote: I'm not in any way involved with NTeX development, but I have installed it on SGIs, Ultrix, and DecUnix machines (as well as Linux) and while the earlier NTeX distribs were fairly difficult, the latest comes with precompiled binaries for many different platforms, and has a tcl/tk front end that is very easy to use. So NTeX isn't too bad. :) I fear this discussion is becoming rather off-topic although this seems as well to reflect that people are looking for alternatives to the LaTeX system usually supplied with Debian... The distinction has probably to be made in first place to the question if NTeX is as uptodate and complete as teTeX and if it is too a consequent implementation of the TDS (TeX Directory Structure) which has a similiar approach as the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in regard of the special TeX/LaTeX needs. Regards, P.*8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: Given my current frustration in dealing with the demands/complaints from the users regarding the TeX stuff that is presently on this machine (standard Debian 1.2 packages), I want to try out TeTeX. Very good idea! The advantage of teTex is that it is complete with all bells and whistles described in the LaTeX Book and the LaTeX Companion and that it is an implementation which adheres to the TDS (TeX Directory Structure). I never regretted having installed it here at my system and still don't understand why we have to reinvent the wheel for Debian. Well, maybe it's more fun for the maintainer of the Debian TeX system to do it all on his own... ;-) Can someone please give me the source from their dummy .deb package which takes care of the TeX dependencies when using TeTeX? Either that or a simple list of the needed specs would be greatly appreciated. From Markus Dickebohm [EMAIL PROTECTED] i have the following specs to deal with: --cut-here--- You just have to append the following lines to /var/lib/dpkg/status: Package: equivs Status: install ok installed Priority: required Section: misc Installed-Size: 1 Maintainer: Markus Dickebohm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version: 4.0-1 Provides: amslatex, amslatex, amsfonts, amstex, auctex, babel, bibindex, bibtex, bibtool, dvi2tty, kpathsea, latex, latex2e-doc, ltxmisc, ltxtool, mfbasfnt, mfbin, mflib, mfnfss, oldgerman, pandora, ps2pk, psnfss, xypic, texbin, texidoc, texinfo, texlib, texpsfnt, textfm, xdvi Depends: Description: This is a dummy package that tells debians package-management about software on the system equivalent to debian-packages. . Just name every package that is provided by your own activities in the line Provides: in the file /var/lib/dpkg/status. Then you do the following: touch /var/lib/dpkg/info/equivs.list echo exit 1 /var/lib/dpkg/info/equivs.postrm Of course, you can supply your own adress in the Maintainer-field. --cut-here--- Have in mind that i had to break the lines here in this email! The Provides: field is actually one ininterrupted line. If not, dselect/dpkg will complain. Maybe somebody else has already developed a fine wrapper script for an installation of the teTeX binary distribution without dangerful messing around with system files? I have installed teTeX-0.4 in /usr/local/lib/teTeX/ with symlinks pointing to the binaries of /usr/local/lib/teTeX/bin/ in the regular /usr/local/bin. This teTeX really is selfcontained and is very easy to setup and maintain if you closely follow the provided READMEs! Dropping in new packages (i added TIPA and MusixTeX) is very well manageable because of the TDS layout. Happy LaTeXin', P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Jonas Bofjall wrote: I tried searching around for teTeX whis morning, and I found a lot of FTP-sites carrying the files, I also found the maintainer's address and the mailing-list. BUT do you know if there is a teTeX web-page somewhere, where some general information, maybe some installation help and useful links exists? Anyone? AFAIK there is still no proper web site for teTeX but you may get some reading either at http://www.informatik.uni-hannover.de/docs/teTeX/; or by downloading the README, INSTALL, etc files at any CTAN FTP site. As you are in Sweden you might as well check out the german CTAN at the URL ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/systems/unix/teTeX/;. Look around there and download the documentation. It contains virtually everything you may want to know about teTeX for a successful installation as long as you are able to follow instructions in written form. ;-) Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: Very good idea! The advantage of teTex is that it is complete with all bells and whistles described in the LaTeX Book and the LaTeX Companion and that it is an implementation which adheres to the TDS (TeX Directory Then I guess I should be installing teTeX as well. I need to do some TeX'ing but the standard Debian TeX package always seems to come up with a new problem once I fixed one. The standard TeX package in Debian, is it a completely new TeX distribution or is it based on some other? Do you know what NTeX is? I was told it was a good TeX distribution, but maybe I should try teTeX instead. // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Jonas Bofjall wrote: Then I guess I should be installing teTeX as well. I need to do some TeX'ing but the standard Debian TeX package always seems to come up with a new problem once I fixed one. Then you'll be really happy with teTeX! Today i had a notice by Thomas Esser from the teTeX mailing list in my email where he wrote that he was about to release the next teTeX update really soon. He wrote sunday or monday but i'm not sure if he meant this weekend or the next. Anyway he promised that this release will be a 100% uptodate as well. :-) Maybe you should really wait for the brandnew teTeX before you bother about downloading and installation, although upgrading is very well solutioned too. You can find out the nearest CTAN with finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The standard TeX package in Debian, is it a completely new TeX distribution or is it based on some other? Looks rather like a basic LaTeX/TeX system tailored especially for Debian than a distribution of some sort. But OTOH i never tried it out giving it not even a chance to supply it's services on my machine so i can't really judge about it's quality. I installed teTeX once on a HP-UX machine at work and was surprised how easy and straightforward it went and how complete the provided TeX system actually is. I immediately fell in love with it! ;-) It comes along with very well and extensive documentation. The great thing to my mind is that i never needed to install anything to get a variety of LaTeX files TeXed apart from more obscure stuff like MusiXTeX, the TIPA phonetic fonts and Jorg Knappens fcfonts (african fonts). It is a stated goal of Thomas Esser to provide everything described in the LaTeX Book and the LaTeX Companion. Our university here in Mainz has BTW adopted teTeX as the regular LaTeX installation on the campus' Unix cluster and i consider it wonderful to have the same working environment anywhere, be it at home, at work or at the university. :-) Do you know what NTeX is? I was told it was a good TeX distribution, but maybe I should try teTeX instead. NTeX is a very large TeX distribution which was usually provided with Slackware and which is not as well designed and maintained as teTeX. If i were you i wouldn't bother with NTeX especially since it has earned itself the fame of being hard to administrate, a thing teTeX definitely has eased up a lot. Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: promised that this release will be a 100% uptodate as well. :-) Maybe you should really wait for the brandnew teTeX before you bother about If it is just a week or two I'll rather wait. I like what I hear :) Someone actually told me that I should install teTeX maybe a month ago when I was running 0.93R6 but then 1.2 came and I tried its TeX instead. It is better, but not good. Looks rather like a basic LaTeX/TeX system tailored especially for Debian than a distribution of some sort. But OTOH i never tried it out giving it Well... Maybe there should be put together a Debian teTeX package. The maintainer of the current Debian TeX package maybe should spend his time helping teTeX instead of his own stuff. But I suppose he's got a reason not to do so... What is better about Debian TeX, anyone? NTeX is a very large TeX distribution which was usually provided with Slackware and which is not as well designed and maintained as teTeX. If i Then I will go for teTeX instead. I tried searching around for teTeX whis morning, and I found a lot of FTP-sites carrying the files, I also found the maintainer's address and the mailing-list. BUT do you know if there is a teTeX web-page somewhere, where some general information, maybe some installation help and useful links exists? Anyone? thanks... // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
Hello Debianites. I've seen discussions regarding this issue before. I have a Debian machine at work which needs to be a reliable platform for Scientific documment processing in TeX/LaTeX. Given my current frustration in dealing with the demands/complaints from the users regarding the TeX stuff that is presently on this machine (standard Debian 1.2 packages), I want to try out TeTeX. Can someone please give me the source from their dummy .deb package which takes care of the TeX dependencies when using TeTeX? Either that or a simple list of the needed specs would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Syrus. -- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
