Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-15 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:09:21 -0700
Daniel Burrows dburr...@debian.org wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:25:49PM +0200, Leonardo Canducci
 leonardo.candu...@gmail.com was heard to say:
  Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and
  links to the true article, and so other popular readers. AFAIK
  Straw was the only one truly offline reader but it's broken (in
  sid). Even google reader + gears can't fetch articles linked from a
  feed like that: http://osnews.com/story/22145/Linux_2_6_31_Released
  which has only a small part/abstract of the article. In such case
  you have to be online to read the full article even when all feeds
  are synced/refreshed. Am I missing something or there is no such
  software?
 
   I finally used rss2email when I had this problem.  I don't think it
 handles situations where the author hid the article behind a link,
 though.

I was intrigued by the problem, and as a learning exercise I decided to
write an offline feed aggregator.  I'm continually amazed at how easy
it is with Perl to get other people to do the heavy lifting for you
(thanks Larry and all the other Perl conributors)!

And so I present to you Foffl (Alpha) v0.1:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/foffl/

It's not yet the most usable thing around, but it does seem to work, at
least on the dozer or so example feeds (RSS and Atom) that I've tested
it on.  Feedback (no pun intended) welcome!

[Note that this helps for the case where the feed doesn't include the
full entry content, but the webpage pointed to by the feed's link
does.  It won't help for the case where the linked webpage itself
doesn't contain the full content, just a second link to that content.
Accomplishing that would seem to require scraping, a tedious task that
must be done separately for each site, and yielding very fragile
results.[

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Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 22:25 +0200, Leonardo Canducci wrote:
 Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and links
 to the true article, and so other popular readers.

Bug is with the feed, not the feed reader.  Try asking the sites you
frequent to provide a complete feed rather than expecting your feed
reader to also be a browser.



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Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-12 Thread go...@dobosevic.com

Leonardo Canducci wrote:

Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and links
to the true article, and so other popular readers. AFAIK Straw was the
only one truly offline reader but it's broken (in sid). Even google
reader + gears can't fetch articles linked from a feed like that:
http://osnews.com/story/22145/Linux_2_6_31_Released which has only a
small part/abstract of the article. In such case you have to be online
to read the full article even when all feeds are synced/refreshed.
Am I missing something or there is no such software?


With Thunderbird you can get full page or just summery.
Just go to File-New-Account-RSS News  Blogs
Default action is full page.

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Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-11 Thread Leonardo Canducci
2009/9/11 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid:
 On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:25:49 +0200, Leonardo Canducci in 
 gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
 Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and links
 to the true article, and so other popular readers. AFAIK Straw was the
 only one truly offline reader but it's broken (in sid). Even google
 reader + gears can't fetch articles linked from a feed like that:
 http://osnews.com/story/22145/Linux_2_6_31_Released which has only a
 small part/abstract of the article. In such case you have to be online
 to read the full article even when all feeds are synced/refreshed.
 Am I missing something or there is no such software?

 Leafnode + (perferred newsreader) or slrnpull + slrn
Isn't that NNTP stuff? I'm looking for an RSS feed reader.
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Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-11 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:43:20 +0200, Leonardo Canducci in 
gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
 2009/9/11 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid:
 On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:25:49 +0200, Leonardo Canducci in 
 gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
 Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and links
 to the true article, and so other popular readers. AFAIK Straw was the
 only one truly offline reader but it's broken (in sid). Even google
 reader + gears can't fetch articles linked from a feed like that:
 http://osnews.com/story/22145/Linux_2_6_31_Released which has only a
 small part/abstract of the article. In such case you have to be online
 to read the full article even when all feeds are synced/refreshed.
 Am I missing something or there is no such software?

 Leafnode + (perferred newsreader) or slrnpull + slrn
 Isn't that NNTP stuff? I'm looking for an RSS feed reader.

Yeah I guess being tired is my excuse; for some reason I keyed in on feed
in the subject and completely missed your reference to GReader.


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Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:25:49PM +0200, Leonardo Canducci 
leonardo.candu...@gmail.com was heard to say:
 Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and links
 to the true article, and so other popular readers. AFAIK Straw was the
 only one truly offline reader but it's broken (in sid). Even google
 reader + gears can't fetch articles linked from a feed like that:
 http://osnews.com/story/22145/Linux_2_6_31_Released which has only a
 small part/abstract of the article. In such case you have to be online
 to read the full article even when all feeds are synced/refreshed.
 Am I missing something or there is no such software?

  I finally used rss2email when I had this problem.  I don't think it
handles situations where the author hid the article behind a link,
though.

  Daniel


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Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-11 Thread PierPaolo
i faced this annoyance too... maybe someone has to put his hands on it...
caching the pages feeds are referring too has to be quite an hard job, with
all references in contemporary html pages, and framing... once i tried to
wgetting the feed page but these problems stopped my trials

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 17:57, S. Fishpaste
s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid wrote:

 On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:43:20 +0200, Leonardo Canducci in
 gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
  2009/9/11 S. Fishpaste s...@deer-in-the-headlights.ca.invalid:
  On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:25:49 +0200, Leonardo Canducci in
 gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
  Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and links
  to the true article, and so other popular readers. AFAIK Straw was the
  only one truly offline reader but it's broken (in sid). Even google
  reader + gears can't fetch articles linked from a feed like that:
  http://osnews.com/story/22145/Linux_2_6_31_Released which has only a
  small part/abstract of the article. In such case you have to be online
  to read the full article even when all feeds are synced/refreshed.
  Am I missing something or there is no such software?
 
  Leafnode + (perferred newsreader) or slrnpull + slrn
  Isn't that NNTP stuff? I'm looking for an RSS feed reader.

 Yeah I guess being tired is my excuse; for some reason I keyed in on feed
 in the subject and completely missed your reference to GReader.


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Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-11 Thread Leonardo Canducci
2009/9/11 PierPaolo pierpaolo.fra...@gmail.com:
 i faced this annoyance too... maybe someone has to put his hands on it...
 caching the pages feeds are referring too has to be quite an hard job, with
 all references in contemporary html pages, and framing... once i tried to
 wgetting the feed page but these problems stopped my trials
straw used to work this way, but it's broken now and deb version seems
to be the last one on developer site.
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is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-10 Thread Leonardo Canducci
Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and links
to the true article, and so other popular readers. AFAIK Straw was the
only one truly offline reader but it's broken (in sid). Even google
reader + gears can't fetch articles linked from a feed like that:
http://osnews.com/story/22145/Linux_2_6_31_Released which has only a
small part/abstract of the article. In such case you have to be online
to read the full article even when all feeds are synced/refreshed.
Am I missing something or there is no such software?
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Re: is there a truly offline feed reader?

2009-09-10 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:25:49 +0200, Leonardo Canducci in 
gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
 Liferea is not, at least when a feed shows only a few lines and links
 to the true article, and so other popular readers. AFAIK Straw was the
 only one truly offline reader but it's broken (in sid). Even google
 reader + gears can't fetch articles linked from a feed like that:
 http://osnews.com/story/22145/Linux_2_6_31_Released which has only a
 small part/abstract of the article. In such case you have to be online
 to read the full article even when all feeds are synced/refreshed.
 Am I missing something or there is no such software?

Leafnode + (perferred newsreader) or slrnpull + slrn


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