Re: is there a way to corrupt the BIOS and/or the keybord on you laptop from the Internet? ...
On Wed 12 Aug 2020 at 17:05:01 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > > I recommend to thoroughly test your hardware using different OS (possibly > > non-Linux) and if you manage to reproduce the problems, it would mean a > > hardware failure. > > The only thing that I have "discovered" is that for whatever reason > that keyboard doesn't plug directly to one and only one of the USB > ports (which I had used before just fine), but if connected through a > USB hub it works just fine. So I wonder what could be going on, or > "they" are just messing with me, make me "wonder" ... as if I didn't > have enough to do already. In the race to make devices thinner, all the connectivity seems to have suffered reliability problems. On a 7 yr old Lenovo, USB plug/sticks disconnect and reconnect because they're not gripped firmly enough, and the charger suffers similarly. The latter has likely contributed to the demise of the charging circuit. On a 2½ yr old HP, there are similar problems with the HDMI socket and with the USB C-style charger. The HDMI output now has to be fed through a USB-C hub. So USB sockets have messed with people for many years, even on desktops. > I do know that they somehow install keyloggers apparently through > java script on every computer I use even if I am using a computer at a > public library. Now you've lost me. > On Windows, when I go: "Control Panel\Hardware and Sound" ... and > then click on: "view hardware and devices" I see what you are supposed > to see on the attached [ix Cheers, David.
Re: is there a way to corrupt the BIOS and/or the keybord on you laptop from the Internet? ...
> The only thing that I have "discovered" is that for whatever reason > that keyboard doesn't plug directly to one and only one of the USB > ports (which I had used before just fine), but if connected through a > USB hub it works just fine. So I wonder what could be going on, or > "they" are just messing with me, make me "wonder" ... as if I didn't > have enough to do already. Hmm... maybe the USB hub has been worried you'd find it useless it so it asked your keyboard for help? Stefan
Re: is there a way to corrupt the BIOS and/or the keybord on you laptop from the Internet? ...
> I recommend to thoroughly test your hardware using different OS (possibly > non-Linux) and if you manage to reproduce the problems, it would mean a > hardware failure. The only thing that I have "discovered" is that for whatever reason that keyboard doesn't plug directly to one and only one of the USB ports (which I had used before just fine), but if connected through a USB hub it works just fine. So I wonder what could be going on, or "they" are just messing with me, make me "wonder" ... as if I didn't have enough to do already. I do know that they somehow install keyloggers apparently through java script on every computer I use even if I am using a computer at a public library. On Windows, when I go: "Control Panel\Hardware and Sound" ... and then click on: "view hardware and devices" I see what you are supposed to see on the attached [ix lbrtchx
Re: is there a way to corrupt the BIOS and/or the keybord on you laptop from the Internet? ...
On Sb, 08 aug 20, 16:24:59, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > What do you think might be "technically" going on? Bugs: keyboard firmware, BIOS, Linux, etc. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: is there a way to corrupt the BIOS and/or the keybord on you laptop from the Internet? ...
> I could not reproduce the issue outside Linux, but it only happens > occasionally thus not sure if it is that. Well, that would show it is not a hardware issue > Technically, I would think that you are experiencing either a hardware fault > or a driver issue. I know that on my laptop, there is an issue wrt. some > keys endlessly repeating under certain cirumstances and I have always > thought it to be an issue regarding the driver rather than the BIOS' fault. Hmm! I was using a Linux DVD which I had tested. lbrtchx
Re: is there a way to corrupt the BIOS and/or the keybord on you laptop from the Internet? ...
Albretch Mueller writes: I found those links but not thorough Information: [...] I browse the Internet using a USB wifi dongle and Windows and then take out the drive and use Linux for my own business. I removed the network and bluetooth cards, as well as the wireless antenna of that laptop, but I still notice that when I writing both code and on to the shell characters are miswritten or not written at all or apparently charaters get written in "temperamental" ways that hit to some "memory"/"intelligence". I also know that keyboards have internal memory chips. [...] How can you reset/wipe the keyboard controller? How could this be explained "technically"? What do you think might be "technically" going on? Technically, I would think that you are experiencing either a hardware fault or a driver issue. I know that on my laptop, there is an issue wrt. some keys endlessly repeating under certain cirumstances and I have always thought it to be an issue regarding the driver rather than the BIOS' fault. I could not reproduce the issue outside Linux, but it only happens occasionally thus not sure if it is that. On desktop keyboards (mechanical ones...) I have experienced key chatter (duplicate keys when pressed once) but these were always hardware faults most likely caused by dust. That being said if somehow your BIOS or other firmware were corrputed it would be quite unlikely to be fixable for less than getting new hardware. On some (new and expensive?) Desktop systems, there are dedicated buttons to use a different BIOS located on a separate chip but I have never seen such a thing for laptops... HTH Linux-Fan pgp_6p05Vl96S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is there a way to corrupt the BIOS and/or the keybord on you laptop from the Internet? ...
On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 10:25 AM Albretch Mueller wrote: > I found those links but not thorough Information: > > > https://linux.slashdot.org/story/02/06/15/1416224/a-web-browser-in-your-bios > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7531000/javascript-access-to-hardware I will take the first part: Color me Skeptical on both of them. (And that matches the Comments on both articles). Good luck! Kenneth Parker - Here is my problem: > > I browse the Internet using a USB wifi dongle and Windows and then > take out the drive and use Linux for my own business. > > I removed the network and bluetooth cards, as well as the wireless > antenna of that laptop, but I still notice that when I writing both > code and on to the shell characters are miswritten or not written at > all or apparently charaters get written in "temperamental" ways that > hit to some "memory"/"intelligence". > > I also know that keyboards have internal memory chips. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_controller_(computing) > > > https://reverseengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/6388/storing-files-on-keyboard-memory > > How can you reset/wipe the keyboard controller? > > How could this be explained "technically"? > > What do you think might be "technically" going on? > > lbrtchx > >
is there a way to corrupt the BIOS and/or the keybord on you laptop from the Internet? ...
I found those links but not thorough Information: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/02/06/15/1416224/a-web-browser-in-your-bios https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7531000/javascript-access-to-hardware Here is my problem: I browse the Internet using a USB wifi dongle and Windows and then take out the drive and use Linux for my own business. I removed the network and bluetooth cards, as well as the wireless antenna of that laptop, but I still notice that when I writing both code and on to the shell characters are miswritten or not written at all or apparently charaters get written in "temperamental" ways that hit to some "memory"/"intelligence". I also know that keyboards have internal memory chips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_controller_(computing) https://reverseengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/6388/storing-files-on-keyboard-memory How can you reset/wipe the keyboard controller? How could this be explained "technically"? What do you think might be "technically" going on? lbrtchx
