Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-13 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 19:46:17 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 Gracias a todos. Como siempre, Camaleón das en el clavo
 
 No tengo un debian ahora mismo a mano, pero lo he probado en un
 archlinux que tengo en una VM con este paquetito tan bonico:
 
 pulseaudio-alsa

Y supongo que también tendrás instalado el paquete pulseaudio ¿no? :-?

 Cada distro es un mundo, pero tenía más que ver con pulseaudio que con
 el propio kmix.
 
 [root@arch-maykel maykel]# pacman -Si pulseaudio-alsa 
 Repositorio  : extra 
 Nombre: pulseaudio-alsa 
 Versión   : 2-2
 Descripción   : ALSA Configuration for PulseAudio 

(...)

 Gracias una vez más. Lo necesitaba para pasar el audio por hdmi.

Pues no veo ningún paquete en Debian con ese nombre (pulseaudio-alsa), 
me temo que tendrás que instalar PA... si es así, te deseo toda la suerte 
del mundo ;-P

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kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Maykel Franco
Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo
opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y le dabas
a configuración, aparecia una pestaña de configuración de audio,
adjunto captura de imagne por si me explico mal:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/hmli.png/

El caso, es que no sé que paquete tengo que instalar para que me
aparezca. Lo quiero porque lo usaba cuando conectaba el portatil por
hdmi al televisor y le cambiaba el audio para que lo sacara por la
tele.

He buscado pero de momento no encuentro nada, seguiré mirando. Si
consigo encontrarlo/integrarlo, lo comento por aquí por si alguien le
hiciera falta o interesara.

Gracias de antemano.

Saludos


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Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 12 Oct 2013 18:25:14 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo
 opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y le dabas a
 configuración, aparecia una pestaña de configuración de audio, adjunto
 captura de imagne por si me explico mal:
 
 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/hmli.png/
 
 El caso, es que no sé que paquete tengo que instalar para que me
 aparezca. Lo quiero porque lo usaba cuando conectaba el portatil por
 hdmi al televisor y le cambiaba el audio para que lo sacara por la tele.
 
 He buscado pero de momento no encuentro nada, seguiré mirando. Si
 consigo encontrarlo/integrarlo, lo comento por aquí por si alguien le
 hiciera falta o interesara.

Me da la impresión de que puede ser que esa opción aparezca cuando 
instalas algún paquete de PulseAudio (para saber cuál podrías comparar la 
lista de paquetes que tienes instalados en openSUSE de PA con la de 
Debian), pero sinceramente, no te lo recomendaría, PA suele dar muchos 
problemas.

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Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Antoni Bella Pérez
El Dissabte, 12 d'octubre de 2013, a les 18:25:14, Maykel Franco va escriure:
 Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo
 opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y le dabas
 a configuración, aparecia una pestaña de configuración de audio,
 adjunto captura de imagne por si me explico mal:
 
 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/hmli.png/
 
 El caso, es que no sé que paquete tengo que instalar para que me
 aparezca. Lo quiero porque lo usaba cuando conectaba el portatil por
 hdmi al televisor y le cambiaba el audio para que lo sacara por la
 tele.
 
 He buscado pero de momento no encuentro nada, seguiré mirando. Si
 consigo encontrarlo/integrarlo, lo comento por aquí por si alguien le
 hiciera falta o interesara.
 
 Gracias de antemano.
 
 Saludos

  Hola

  Lo que buscas es el «systemsettings».

  Aquí tienes una explicación de porque no encuentras ese botón:

http://userbase.kde.org/KMix/es

  Toni


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Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 12 de octubre de 2013 19:14, Antoni Bella Pérez
antonibel...@orange.es escribió:
 El Dissabte, 12 d'octubre de 2013, a les 18:25:14, Maykel Franco va escriure:
 Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo
 opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y le dabas
 a configuración, aparecia una pestaña de configuración de audio,
 adjunto captura de imagne por si me explico mal:

 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/hmli.png/

 El caso, es que no sé que paquete tengo que instalar para que me
 aparezca. Lo quiero porque lo usaba cuando conectaba el portatil por
 hdmi al televisor y le cambiaba el audio para que lo sacara por la
 tele.

 He buscado pero de momento no encuentro nada, seguiré mirando. Si
 consigo encontrarlo/integrarlo, lo comento por aquí por si alguien le
 hiciera falta o interesara.

 Gracias de antemano.

 Saludos

   Hola

   Lo que buscas es el «systemsettings».

   Aquí tienes una explicación de porque no encuentras ese botón:

 http://userbase.kde.org/KMix/es

   Toni


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Gracias a todos. Como siempre, Camaleón das en el clavo

No tengo un debian ahora mismo a mano, pero lo he probado en un
archlinux que tengo en una VM con este paquetito tan bonico:

pulseaudio-alsa

Cada distro es un mundo, pero tenía más que ver con pulseaudio que con
el propio kmix.

[root@arch-maykel maykel]# pacman -Si pulseaudio-alsa
Repositorio   : extra
Nombre: pulseaudio-alsa
Versión   : 2-2
Descripción   : ALSA Configuration for PulseAudio
Arquitectura  : any
URL   : http://www.pulseaudio.org
Licencias : GPL
Grupos: Nada
Provee: Nada
Depende de: alsa-plugins=1.0.25  pulseaudio
Dep. opcionales   : Nada
En conflicto con: Nada
Reemplaza a : Nada
Tamaño de Descarga  :   0,69 KiB
Tamaño instalado :   4,00 KiB
Empaquetador  : Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) jan.steff...@gmail.com
Fecha de compilación : sáb 02 feb 2013 04:21:34 CET
Validado Por   : Suma MD5  Suma SHA256  Firma


Gracias una vez más. Lo necesitaba para pasar el audio por hdmi.

Saludos.


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Re: kmix audio configuracion kde debian testing

2013-10-12 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 12 de octubre de 2013 19:46, Maykel Franco
maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 12 de octubre de 2013 19:14, Antoni Bella Pérez
 antonibel...@orange.es escribió:
 El Dissabte, 12 d'octubre de 2013, a les 18:25:14, Maykel Franco va escriure:
 Hola buenas, he visto que algunas distro con kde, como por ejemplo
 opensuse, cuando clickeabas al boton derecho encima de kmix y le dabas
 a configuración, aparecia una pestaña de configuración de audio,
 adjunto captura de imagne por si me explico mal:

 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/hmli.png/

 El caso, es que no sé que paquete tengo que instalar para que me
 aparezca. Lo quiero porque lo usaba cuando conectaba el portatil por
 hdmi al televisor y le cambiaba el audio para que lo sacara por la
 tele.

 He buscado pero de momento no encuentro nada, seguiré mirando. Si
 consigo encontrarlo/integrarlo, lo comento por aquí por si alguien le
 hiciera falta o interesara.

 Gracias de antemano.

 Saludos

   Hola

   Lo que buscas es el «systemsettings».

   Aquí tienes una explicación de porque no encuentras ese botón:

 http://userbase.kde.org/KMix/es

   Toni


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 Gracias a todos. Como siempre, Camaleón das en el clavo

 No tengo un debian ahora mismo a mano, pero lo he probado en un
 archlinux que tengo en una VM con este paquetito tan bonico:

 pulseaudio-alsa

 Cada distro es un mundo, pero tenía más que ver con pulseaudio que con
 el propio kmix.

 [root@arch-maykel maykel]# pacman -Si pulseaudio-alsa
 Repositorio   : extra
 Nombre: pulseaudio-alsa
 Versión   : 2-2
 Descripción   : ALSA Configuration for PulseAudio
 Arquitectura  : any
 URL   : http://www.pulseaudio.org
 Licencias : GPL
 Grupos: Nada
 Provee: Nada
 Depende de: alsa-plugins=1.0.25  pulseaudio
 Dep. opcionales   : Nada
 En conflicto con: Nada
 Reemplaza a : Nada
 Tamaño de Descarga  :   0,69 KiB
 Tamaño instalado :   4,00 KiB
 Empaquetador  : Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) jan.steff...@gmail.com
 Fecha de compilación : sáb 02 feb 2013 04:21:34 CET
 Validado Por   : Suma MD5  Suma SHA256  Firma


 Gracias una vez más. Lo necesitaba para pasar el audio por hdmi.

 Saludos.

Eso sí, he tenido que matar kmix y volver arrancarlo para que
apareciera ésa opción.

Saludos.


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Re: kde Lenny testing

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 01:00:55AM -0500, Sonny Jordan wrote:
[..]
  easy! The Debian install stinks though. No live CD. Takes about 20 min. to

Hey! Google for Debian Live :)

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kde Lenny testing

2009-01-01 Thread Sonny Jordan
Just want to say I have been slowly  patiently waiting for the stable
release of 'Lenny.
I have been trying others for fun. I decided tonight to go ahead  download
the testing release of the KDE  Lenny. I AM SO GLAD Y'ALL DID NOT USE THE
STUPID  PITIFUL 'PULSE AUDIO'.!!
I can actually hear my music with debian! I can also record Streamtuner!!  I
know it is not nice to mention names so I will just use the first letter of
other distros using Debian repos that really suck on the afore mentioned.  I
have tried U, K, UUE  Mint(sorry) And only Mint Records But still cannot
adjust volume to hear it good..
I haveused Debian since around 3. I love Debian! It is quick,Understandale,
 easy! The Debian install stinks though. No live CD. Takes about 20 min. to
install. BUT it is worth it!
Love your KDE version so far! I hope it is on the stable release.
To all the people working on Debian...THANK YOU for the pleasure of being
able to use  say that Debian is my desktop!
Thank You,
Sonny Jordan


Re: kde Lenny testing

2009-01-01 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sonny Jordan sonnyr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just want to say I have been slowly  patiently waiting for the stable
 release of 'Lenny.
 I have been trying others for fun. I decided tonight to go ahead  download
 the testing release of the KDE  Lenny. I AM SO GLAD Y'ALL DID NOT USE THE
 STUPID  PITIFUL 'PULSE AUDIO'.!!
 I can actually hear my music with debian! I can also record Streamtuner!!  I
 know it is not nice to mention names so I will just use the first letter of
 other distros using Debian repos that really suck on the afore mentioned.  I
 have tried U, K, UUE  Mint(sorry) And only Mint Records But still cannot
 adjust volume to hear it good..
 I haveused Debian since around 3. I love Debian! It is quick,Understandale,
  easy! The Debian install stinks though. No live CD. Takes about 20 min. to
 install. BUT it is worth it!

How long does it normally take to install desktops of other distros?

 Love your KDE version so far! I hope it is on the stable release.
 To all the people working on Debian...THANK YOU for the pleasure of being
 able to use  say that Debian is my desktop!

Nice that you like Debian!

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Re: keyboard quit working after kde upgrade, testing

2005-11-09 Thread David Goodenough
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 05:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Debian testing, after a dist-upgrade a few days ago which included lots of
 kde upgrades, the keyboard no longer works in X.
 It will work in a console. It seems to be not working with KDM. I have
 googled and found no solution.
 Ideas are appreciated.
 Thanks
If you do a startx from a console and then look at the messages you may
find that the X configuration for your keyboard is wrong.  startx is quite 
verbose so redirect the output to a file and then use a command line editor
(nano is always there) to view it.

David


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keyboard quit working after kde upgrade, testing

2005-11-08 Thread mailmanmike
Debian testing, after a dist-upgrade a few days ago which included lots of 
kde upgrades, the keyboard no longer works in X.
It will work in a console. It seems to be not working with KDM. I have 
googled and found no solution.

Ideas are appreciated.
Thanks 




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Re: keyboard quit working after kde upgrade, testing

2005-11-08 Thread Mike Chandler
The problem is solve by doing:

#apt-get remove --purge kdm
#apt-get install kdm


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Problemas con KDE en testing

2004-08-23 Thread Atenea
Hola:

Hace poco actualice mi equipo de estable a testing via dist-upgrade. Todo
parece que está bien excepto KDE. defoma-app devuelve un error al configurar
el paquete fontconfig, de modo que éste se queda sin configurar y con él
kde-core y algún otro. Supongo que por esta razón kde se comporta
extrañamente (se ralentiza, se cierran solas algunas aplicaciones, etc).
Como no soy un técnico de este tema no consigo averiguar qué está pasando.
He probado reinstalar de nuevo pero sigue igual.
Os agradezco cualquier ayuda.

Gracias

Oscar



Status von KDE in testing?

2004-05-05 Thread Reiner Nix
Hi,

Kann mir jemand sagen, wie der Status von KDE in testing ist?.

Wie ich sehe, sind bei apt-get upgrade zunehmend mehr Pakete von KDE 3.2.2 
verfügbar aber eben noch nicht alle, oder?

Was mich wundert: wenn ich ein 

  apt-get -u install kdebase kdelibs4 kde

aufrufe (aber nicht vollende), bekomme ich KEINE Anzeige, dass Pakete entfernt 
werden. Ist es nun so, daß KDE3.1.5 und KDE 3.2.2 partiell/ parallel 
installiert und benutzt werden können.

Gruß
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Re: Status von KDE in testing?

2004-05-05 Thread Christoph Löffler
Hi,

Kann mir jemand sagen, wie der Status von KDE in testing ist?.

[...]
aufrufe (aber nicht vollende), bekomme ich KEINE Anzeige, dass Pakete entfernt 
werden. Ist es nun so, daß KDE3.1.5 und KDE 3.2.2 partiell/ parallel 
installiert und benutzt werden können.
schau mal hier: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE

Zitat:
  As of 27-Apr-2004, KDE is uninstallable in DebianTesting. kdelibs
  is at 4:3.2.2-1 while kdebase is still at 4:3.1.5-2, which causes
  file overlaps and other problems. Follow the directions below to
  get 3.2.2 packages from sid, or use snapshot.debian.net to get
  kdelibs 4:3.1.5 from a couple days ago.
Grüße
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Re: Status von KDE in testing?

2004-05-05 Thread Peter Kuechler
Am Mittwoch, 5. Mai 2004 10:00 schrieb Christoph Löffler:
 Hi,

  Kann mir jemand sagen, wie der Status von KDE in testing ist?.

 [...]

  aufrufe (aber nicht vollende), bekomme ich KEINE Anzeige, dass Pakete
  entfernt werden. Ist es nun so, daß KDE3.1.5 und KDE 3.2.2 partiell/
  parallel installiert und benutzt werden können.

 schau mal hier: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE

 Zitat:
As of 27-Apr-2004, KDE is uninstallable in DebianTesting. kdelibs
is at 4:3.2.2-1 while kdebase is still at 4:3.1.5-2, which causes
file overlaps and other problems. Follow the directions below to
get 3.2.2 packages from sid, or use snapshot.debian.net to get
kdelibs 4:3.1.5 from a couple days ago.

Hmm, ich habe gerade mal nachgesehen. Auf meinen Rechnern steht 
kde-base auf 4:3.2.2-1. Und  das ist alles aus SID

Wie kommt das?

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Re: Status von KDE in testing?

2004-05-05 Thread Peter Kuechler
Am Mittwoch, 5. Mai 2004 11:20 schrieb Peter Kuechler:
 Am Mittwoch, 5. Mai 2004 10:00 schrieb Christoph Löffler:
  Hi,
 
   Kann mir jemand sagen, wie der Status von KDE in testing ist?.
 
  [...]
 
   aufrufe (aber nicht vollende), bekomme ich KEINE Anzeige, dass Pakete
   entfernt werden. Ist es nun so, daß KDE3.1.5 und KDE 3.2.2 partiell/
   parallel installiert und benutzt werden können.
 
  schau mal hier: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianKDE
 
  Zitat:
 As of 27-Apr-2004, KDE is uninstallable in DebianTesting. kdelibs
 is at 4:3.2.2-1 while kdebase is still at 4:3.1.5-2, which causes
 file overlaps and other problems. Follow the directions below to
 get 3.2.2 packages from sid, or use snapshot.debian.net to get
 kdelibs 4:3.1.5 from a couple days ago.

 Hmm, ich habe gerade mal nachgesehen. Auf meinen Rechnern steht
 kde-base auf 4:3.2.2-1. Und  das ist alles aus SID

 Wie kommt das?

Oops!
Der Unterschied zwischen testing und unstable sollte mir eigentlich bekannt 
sein. Sorry, Schande über mich...

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Problemas instalar kde en testing

2004-01-07 Thread Juan Antonio García Durán
Hola a todos:

Tengo un pequeño problemilla haber si me pueden dar alguna idea. He instalado 
debian woody r2 desde cero sin ningun tipo de interfaz gráfica. Antes de 
hacer nada, he actualizado a testing, los sources son los mismos solo que en 
vez de colocar stable he puesto testing. y le he aplicado un dist-upgrade.

A continuación he probado a instalar kde apt-get isntall kde y me peta de 
mala manera. Me da un montón de errores de dependencias



Re: Problemas instalar kde en testing

2004-01-07 Thread pinchatrenes
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:03:05 +0100
Juan Antonio García Durán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hola a todos:
 
 Tengo un pequeño problemilla haber si me pueden dar alguna idea. He
 instalado debian woody r2 desde cero sin ningun tipo de interfaz gráfica.
 Antes de hacer nada, he actualizado a testing, los sources son los mismos
 solo que en vez de colocar stable he puesto testing. y le he aplicado un
 dist-upgrade.
 
 A continuación he probado a instalar kde apt-get isntall kde y me peta
 de mala manera. Me da un montón de errores de dependencias 

Efectívamente, el mayor problema (entre otros) es: kdelibs3 que no está
disponible aún en testing.

Si tienes mucho interés en KDE mira en es.kde.org y métele en el
sources.list lo que te digan en esa página para debian.

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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-14 Thread David Crane
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:42 pm, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:19:52AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
  You're right, there's a partial transition from kde2 to kde3 in
  sarge. Neither are usable if you install a new system now. 
  (unless you go to unstable)

 It's definitely a problem blocking the release at the moment, of
 course.

I came up with the following solution from posts to this list
(including Colin's), and from some debian documentation
(http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianKDE).  First, I got a snapshot of the
libsensors package.  Then I set up a local directory to hold
downloaded deb packages such as this one, and put a file: entry below
my cdrom: and http: entries in my sources.list, so apt tools find it.


(1) Downloaded libsensors-1debian1_2.7.0-6_i386.deb from ...
http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2003/06/24/debian/pool/main/l/lm-sensors/libsensors-1debian1_2.7.0-6_i386.deb

(2) As root:
mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/storage/debs
mv libsensors-1debian1_2.7.0-6_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/storage/debs
cd /var/cache/apt/storage/debs
dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null  Packages
gzip Packages

(3) Add the following line to the bottom of /etc/apt/sources.list
deb file:/var/cache/apt/storage/debs ./

(4) Now when you use aptitude (or whatever), KDE3 should install.


When libsensors-1debian1 appears in http://http.us.debian.org/debian
testing, aptitude will find it there.

If I ever want to download or create individual deb's, I can put 
them in /var/cache/apt/storage/debs, and use the dpkg-scanpackages 
and gzip commands above to refresh my local deb package database.

David Crane



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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-12 Thread Henrik Christian Grove
stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:28:30PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:55 pm, stan wrote:

   Calculating Upgrade... Done
   The following packages will be REMOVED:
 ark kab karm kate kcalc kcharselect kchart kcoloredit kcron kdebase
   kdebase-libs kdepasswd kdf kdict kdm kedit kfind kformula kfract
   kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kivio kjots kmail knewsticker knode
   knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror konsole kontour korn koshell
   kpackage kpaint kpm kpresenter kruler kscreensaver ksirc ksnapshot
   kspread ksysv ktimer kugar kuser kview kword libarts libkdenetwork1
   libkmid libkonq3 libvorbis0 secpolicy xmmsarts
  
   That looks pretty bad to me.
  
   Am I mistaken?
  
  It depends, do you have KDE 2.x installed, or some other backport ? If 
  so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any 
  existing KDE install. I don't know why it wants to remove as opposed to 
  upgrade, not enough info.
 
 Pure box stock Debain, no odd backports, or anything.
 
 What addtioanl info can I provide?

I see almost the same thing (not quite the same list of packages). 
The only package `apt-get dist-upgrade` wanted to update was libarts1
which replaces libarts, but along with that it wanted to remove (almost)
everything related to kde. 

Trying to `apt-get install libarts1` it just wanted to remove libarts
(which is quite an obvious thing to do), kbattleship and libkmid. 

Finding that libarts1-dev replaces libkmid, I then tried `apt-get
install libarts1 libarts1-dev`, that wanted to remove libqt3-dev which
has been replaced by libqt3-compat-headers (which are
suggested/recommended by that apt-get command).

I finally decided to actually do an `apt-get install libarts1
libarts1-dev libqt3-compat-headers`, which resulted in the removal of
kbattleship. 

Then `apt-get dist-upgrade` wanted to upgrade libprm4 to a version that
conflicts with kpackage, I allowed that too. 

As far as I can tell the problems preventing an upgrade of kde is:

- koffice (e.g. kchart) is waiting for glibc. 
- kpm has been replaced by ksysguard, which depends on ksysguardd which
  in turn depends on the non-existant libsensors-1debian1
- kdemultiedia (e.g. kscd) is just a mess (0 days old, RC-bugs, lots of
  packages not yet compiled on non-i386).
- kdeartwork (e.g. kscreensaver) is out of date on arm and mips.
- kdepim (karm, knotes and korganizer) is out of date on mips.
- kfract only exists in stable (+security)

In the 'probably not a problem' category, are a few packages that have
been replaced:
- kenolaba replaces kabalone
- kdelibs-data replaces several packages (e.g. kontour)
- libkdenetwork2-dev replaces libkdenetwork1
- libkonq4 replaces libkonq3
The 'probably' is due to the fact that I can't tell if these packages
would be installed if the above problems were solved.

In the 'I don't really know how this should be' category, I wonder if
libkdegames1 should replace libkdegames.

.Henrik

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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-12 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:07:10PM -0800, Cam Ellison wrote:
 * Mike Fedyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:28:30PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote:
   so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any 
  
  Since when?  I haven't seen kde3 in sarge.
  
 It's there, all right, and so is KDE2.  Don't try to install KDE3 from

You're right, there's a partial transition from kde2 to kde3 in sarge.
Neither are usable if you install a new system now.  (unless you go to
unstable)

The testing scripts should keep this partial transition from making it into
testing... Was it manually hinted?

 scratch, because libsensors-1debian1 does not exist and most of the
 rest of the setup depends on it.  There was a bug report cleared a few

Luckily I installed kde3 when that package was available...

apt-cache policy libsensors-1debian1
libsensors-1debian1:
  Installed: 2.7.0-6
Candidate: 2.7.0-6
  Version Table:
   *** 2.7.0-6 0
   100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
   
 weeks ago that should have cleared the matter up, but it looks as
 though the maintainer has not been able to (has not had time to?)

Was the bug closed in the BTS, or by a package upload?

 debianise libsensors2.  The failure to install is classified
 grave. (In the meantime, my kids are making do with icewm.)

Too bad you didn't install when you had the chance (or stick with kde2)
until all of kde3 makes it into testing...


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FW: kde in testing ?

2003-11-12 Thread Jochen Daum


 -Original Message-
 From: Jochen Daum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2003 8:24 a.m.
 To: Henrik Christian Grove
 Subject: RE: kde in testing ?


 Hi !

  stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:28:30PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote:
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Hash: SHA1
   
On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:55 pm, stan wrote:
 
 Calculating Upgrade... Done
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   ark kab karm kate kcalc kcharselect kchart
  kcoloredit kcron kdebase
 kdebase-libs kdepasswd kdf kdict kdm kedit kfind
  kformula kfract
 kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kivio kjots kmail
  knewsticker knode
 knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror konsole kontour
  korn koshell
 kpackage kpaint kpm kpresenter kruler kscreensaver
  ksirc ksnapshot
 kspread ksysv ktimer kugar kuser kview kword libarts
  libkdenetwork1
 libkmid libkonq3 libvorbis0 secpolicy xmmsarts

 That looks pretty bad to me.

 Am I mistaken?
   
It depends, do you have KDE 2.x installed, or some
  other backport ? If
so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will
  replace any
existing KDE install. I don't know why it wants to
  remove as opposed to
upgrade, not enough info.
  
   Pure box stock Debain, no odd backports, or anything.
  
   What addtioanl info can I provide?
 
  I see almost the same thing (not quite the same list of
 packages).
  The only package `apt-get dist-upgrade` wanted to update
  was libarts1
  which replaces libarts, but along with that it wanted to
  remove (almost)
  everything related to kde.
 
  Trying to `apt-get install libarts1` it just wanted to
  remove libarts
  (which is quite an obvious thing to do), kbattleship and libkmid.
 
  Finding that libarts1-dev replaces libkmid, I then tried `apt-get
  install libarts1 libarts1-dev`, that wanted to remove
  libqt3-dev which
  has been replaced by libqt3-compat-headers (which are
  suggested/recommended by that apt-get command).
 
  I finally decided to actually do an `apt-get install libarts1
  libarts1-dev libqt3-compat-headers`, which resulted in the
  removal of
  kbattleship.
 
  Then `apt-get dist-upgrade` wanted to upgrade libprm4 to a
  version that
  conflicts with kpackage, I allowed that too.
 
  As far as I can tell the problems preventing an upgrade of kde is:
 
  - koffice (e.g. kchart) is waiting for glibc.
  - kpm has been replaced by ksysguard, which depends on
  ksysguardd which
in turn depends on the non-existant libsensors-1debian1

 There's a dependency wrong here, it should depend on
 libsensors. There are meta libsensors-1debian1 packages on
 the net which provide this dependency .

  - kdemultiedia (e.g. kscd) is just a mess (0 days old,
  RC-bugs, lots of
packages not yet compiled on non-i386).
  - kdeartwork (e.g. kscreensaver) is out of date on arm and mips.
  - kdepim (karm, knotes and korganizer) is out of date on mips.
  - kfract only exists in stable (+security)
 
  In the 'probably not a problem' category, are a few
  packages that have
  been replaced:
  - kenolaba replaces kabalone
  - kdelibs-data replaces several packages (e.g. kontour)
  - libkdenetwork2-dev replaces libkdenetwork1
  - libkonq4 replaces libkonq3
  The 'probably' is due to the fact that I can't tell if
  these packages
  would be installed if the above problems were solved.
 
  In the 'I don't really know how this should be' category, I
  wonder if
  libkdegames1 should replace libkdegames.
 


 HTH, Jochen


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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:19:52AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:07:10PM -0800, Cam Ellison wrote:
  * Mike Fedyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   Since when?  I haven't seen kde3 in sarge.
  
  It's there, all right, and so is KDE2.  Don't try to install KDE3 from
 
 You're right, there's a partial transition from kde2 to kde3 in sarge.
 Neither are usable if you install a new system now.  (unless you go to
 unstable)
 
 The testing scripts should keep this partial transition from making it into
 testing... Was it manually hinted?

Yes. Anthony Towns decided that it was better to get the KDE 3
transition started, since we're definitely going to need to have that
for the next release. If and when the KDE maintainers ever upload new
versions of things like kdebase, it should now be easier to get the
updates in.

It's definitely a problem blocking the release at the moment, of course.

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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-10 Thread John Peter
Arnt Karlsen wrote:

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:28:30 -0900, 
Greg Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 

On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:55 pm, stan wrote:

   

Am I mistaken?
 

It depends, do you have KDE 2.x installed, or some other backport ? If
so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any
existing KDE install. I don't know why it wants to remove as opposed
to upgrade, not enough info.
   

..this happened to me, upon trying out dselect, aptitude, synaptic etc,
I found my system pretty confusing, as these 3 and apt-get differed on
what I wanted done.  ;-)
 

I also noticed some strange behavior on aptitude but decided to try it 
anyway.
I just took the care of doing it on the terminal and shuted down kde and X .
With an apt-get dist-upgrade all went well and kde3.1.4 is running fine 
, all
was properlly replaced and configurations are mantained .

John

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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-10 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:28:30PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote:
 so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any 

Since when?  I haven't seen kde3 in sarge.

http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=meta-kde

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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-10 Thread Cam Ellison
* Mike Fedyk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:28:30PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote:
  so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any 
 
 Since when?  I haven't seen kde3 in sarge.
 
It's there, all right, and so is KDE2.  Don't try to install KDE3 from
scratch, because libsensors-1debian1 does not exist and most of the
rest of the setup depends on it.  There was a bug report cleared a few
weeks ago that should have cleared the matter up, but it looks as
though the maintainer has not been able to (has not had time to?)
debianise libsensors2.  The failure to install is classified
grave. (In the meantime, my kids are making do with icewm.)

Cheers

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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-10 Thread stan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 03:28:30PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:55 pm, stan wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:52:25PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote:
   On Sunday 09 November 2003 16:32, stan wrote:
I have several testing machines, when I try to do apt-get
dist-upgrade on them, they want to remove kde-base.
   
This seems like a bad idea :-)
  
   Not really as long as kdebase is the only package to be removed.
   It's just a metapackage for easier installation of a whole lot of
   KDE components without any own functionality.
 
  Well, actually I just picked kdebase as the obvious one. Here's the
  full story:
 
  Calculating Upgrade... Done
  The following packages will be REMOVED:
ark kab karm kate kcalc kcharselect kchart kcoloredit kcron kdebase
  kdebase-libs kdepasswd kdf kdict kdm kedit kfind kformula kfract
  kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kivio kjots kmail knewsticker knode
  knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror konsole kontour korn koshell
  kpackage kpaint kpm kpresenter kruler kscreensaver ksirc ksnapshot
  kspread ksysv ktimer kugar kuser kview kword libarts libkdenetwork1
  libkmid libkonq3 libvorbis0 secpolicy xmmsarts
 
  That looks pretty bad to me.
 
  Am I mistaken?
 
 It depends, do you have KDE 2.x installed, or some other backport ? If 
 so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any 
 existing KDE install. I don't know why it wants to remove as opposed to 
 upgrade, not enough info.

Pure box stock Debain, no odd backports, or anything.

What addtioanl info can I provide?

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kde in testing ?

2003-11-09 Thread stan
I have several testing machines, when I try to do apt-get dist-upgrade on
them, they want to remove kde-base.

This seems like a bad idea :-)

What can I do (besides not upgrading them) to work around this? This has
been going on for over a week now.

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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-09 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sunday 09 November 2003 16:32, stan wrote:
 I have several testing machines, when I try to do apt-get dist-upgrade on
 them, they want to remove kde-base.

 This seems like a bad idea :-)

Not really as long as kdebase is the only package to be removed. It's just a 
metapackage for easier installation of a whole lot of KDE components without 
any own functionality.

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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-09 Thread stan
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:52:25PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote:
 On Sunday 09 November 2003 16:32, stan wrote:
  I have several testing machines, when I try to do apt-get dist-upgrade on
  them, they want to remove kde-base.
 
  This seems like a bad idea :-)
 
 Not really as long as kdebase is the only package to be removed. It's just a 
 metapackage for easier installation of a whole lot of KDE components without 
 any own functionality.
 

Well, actually I just picked kdebase as the obvious one. Here's the full story:

Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  ark kab karm kate kcalc kcharselect kchart kcoloredit kcron kdebase kdebase-libs 
kdepasswd kdf
kdict kdm kedit kfind kformula kfract kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kivio kjots 
kmail
knewsticker knode knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror konsole kontour korn koshell 
kpackage
kpaint kpm kpresenter kruler kscreensaver ksirc ksnapshot kspread ksysv ktimer kugar 
kuser kview
kword libarts libkdenetwork1 libkmid libkonq3 libvorbis0 secpolicy xmmsarts

That looks pretty bad to me.

Am I mistaken?


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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-09 Thread Greg Madden
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On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:55 pm, stan wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 04:52:25PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote:
  On Sunday 09 November 2003 16:32, stan wrote:
   I have several testing machines, when I try to do apt-get
   dist-upgrade on them, they want to remove kde-base.
  
   This seems like a bad idea :-)
 
  Not really as long as kdebase is the only package to be removed.
  It's just a metapackage for easier installation of a whole lot of
  KDE components without any own functionality.

 Well, actually I just picked kdebase as the obvious one. Here's the
 full story:

 Calculating Upgrade... Done
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   ark kab karm kate kcalc kcharselect kchart kcoloredit kcron kdebase
 kdebase-libs kdepasswd kdf kdict kdm kedit kfind kformula kfract
 kghostview khexedit kiconedit kit kivio kjots kmail knewsticker knode
 knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror konsole kontour korn koshell
 kpackage kpaint kpm kpresenter kruler kscreensaver ksirc ksnapshot
 kspread ksysv ktimer kugar kuser kview kword libarts libkdenetwork1
 libkmid libkonq3 libvorbis0 secpolicy xmmsarts

 That looks pretty bad to me.

 Am I mistaken?

It depends, do you have KDE 2.x installed, or some other backport ? If 
so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any 
existing KDE install. I don't know why it wants to remove as opposed to 
upgrade, not enough info.
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Re: kde in testing ?

2003-11-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:28:30 -0900, 
Greg Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:55 pm, stan wrote:

  Am I mistaken?
 
 It depends, do you have KDE 2.x installed, or some other backport ? If
 so KDE 3 went into testing about a week ago and will replace any
 existing KDE install. I don't know why it wants to remove as opposed
 to upgrade, not enough info.

..this happened to me, upon trying out dselect, aptitude, synaptic etc,
I found my system pretty confusing, as these 3 and apt-get differed on
what I wanted done.  ;-)

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