kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
I'm going to compile 2.2.2 kernel as an upgrade from 2.2.16. Since this is evenly numbered does that mean it's a stable kernel? Are there any significant improvements over 2.2.16? thanks -- dale Know thyself..
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
Hi Dan, That's what I'm confused about, I am thinking, perhaps in error that 2.2.2 is a later version than 2.2.16. Is that wrong? Daniel E. Baumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Dale L . Morris wrote: I'm going to compile 2.2.2 kernel as an upgrade from 2.2.16. Since this is evenly numbered does that mean it's a stable kernel? Are there any significant improvements over 2.2.16? thanks Know thyself.. Huh? What do you mean 2.2.16 is an upgrade form 2.2.2? High erversion numbers means newer release. The way the Linux kernel work is that if the middle number is odd it is unstable (development verison) and if it is even it is stable. Dan Daniel E. Baumann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution: dynamic DNS service, may bounce) Web location: http://www.msoe.edu/~baumannd http://www.linuxfreak.com/~baumannd Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. -- Know thyself..
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
2.2.16 is still the newest released Stable kernel 2.2.2 is more then a year old! nate Dale L . Morris wrote: I'm going to compile 2.2.2 kernel as an upgrade from 2.2.16. Since this is evenly numbered does that mean it's a stable kernel? Are there any significant improvements over 2.2.16? thanks -- dale Know thyself.. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Dale L . Morris wrote: I'm going to compile 2.2.2 kernel as an upgrade from 2.2.16. Since this is evenly numbered does that mean it's a stable kernel? Are there any significant improvements over 2.2.16? thanks -- dale Know thyself.. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Huh? What do you mean 2.2.16 is an upgrade form 2.2.2? High erversion numbers means newer release. The way the Linux kernel work is that if the middle number is odd it is unstable (development verison) and if it is even it is stable. Dan -- Daniel E. Baumann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution: dynamic DNS service, may bounce) Web location: http://www.msoe.edu/~baumannd http://www.linuxfreak.com/~baumannd Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. -- Dave Olson ---
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:01:12PM -0700, Dale L . Morris wrote: That's what I'm confused about, I am thinking, perhaps in error that 2.2.2 is a later version than 2.2.16. Is that wrong? Yes, 2 is smaller than 16. It's not .20 versus .16. Regards Sven -- Windows does *not* have bugs. It just develops random features.
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question-answered!
Ok, I understand now, guess I was thinking in decimals and overcomplicating it. Thanks for your replys I'm going to compile 2.2.2 kernel as an upgrade from 2.2.16. Since this is evenly numbered does that mean it's a stable kernel? Are there any significant improvements over 2.2.16? thanks Know thyself.. -- Know thyself..
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
Ok, I want to install kernel 2.2.17. I have done that with 2.2.16 and I understand that part. I'm confused about the debian way to do it. Before I just downloaded 2.2.16 from www.kernel.org, untarred it to /usr/src and compiled it. But, going to www.kernel.org now, there is no 2.2.17 kernel to download. The only place I find it is on debian ftp. So do I just execute 'apt-get install kernel-image 2.2.17' then do the same for kernel-package, after which I go to the /usr/src directory and compile it as I did with 2.2.16? (After my confusion over release numbers I would hate to botch this..) thanks Sven Burgener ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:01:12PM -0700, Dale L . Morris wrote: That's what I'm confused about, I am thinking, perhaps in error that 2.2.2 is a later version than 2.2.16. Is that wrong? Yes, 2 is smaller than 16. It's not .20 versus .16. Regards Sven -- Know thyself..
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
2.2.17 is not released yet, but you can get a pre release patch ftp.kernel.org /pub/linux/kernel/people/alan i believe is the directory, in there is a directory called something like 2.2.17pre and inside there are the patches, im running 2.2.17pre18 on 2 machines and it runs well sofar. at least pre20 is out tho. nate Dale L . Morris wrote: Ok, I want to install kernel 2.2.17. I have done that with 2.2.16 and I understand that part. I'm confused about the debian way to do it. Before I just downloaded 2.2.16 from www.kernel.org, untarred it to /usr/src and compiled it. But, going to www.kernel.org now, there is no 2.2.17 kernel to download. The only place I find it is on debian ftp. So do I just execute 'apt-get install kernel-image 2.2.17' then do the same for kernel-package, after which I go to the /usr/src directory and compile it as I did with 2.2.16? (After my confusion over release numbers I would hate to botch this..) thanks Sven Burgener ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:01:12PM -0700, Dale L . Morris wrote: That's what I'm confused about, I am thinking, perhaps in error that 2.2.2 is a later version than 2.2.16. Is that wrong? Yes, 2 is smaller than 16. It's not .20 versus .16. Regards Sven -- Know thyself.. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Dale L . Morris wrote: Ok, I want to install kernel 2.2.17. I have done that with 2.2.16 and I understand that part. I'm confused about the debian way to do it. Before I just downloaded 2.2.16 from www.kernel.org, untarred it to /usr/src and compiled it. But, going to www.kernel.org now, there is no 2.2.17 kernel to download. The only place I find it is on debian ftp. So do I just execute 'apt-get install kernel-image 2.2.17' then do the same for kernel-package, after which I go to the /usr/src directory and compile it as I did with 2.2.16? (After my confusion over release numbers I would hate to botch this..) thanks Sven Burgener ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 12:01:12PM -0700, Dale L . Morris wrote: That's what I'm confused about, I am thinking, perhaps in error that 2.2.2 is a later version than 2.2.16. Is that wrong? Yes, 2 is smaller than 16. It's not .20 versus .16. Regards Sven -- Know thyself.. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Have a look at the User Manual and look at the section about rolling your own kernel (Section 8.5). You basically either install the kernel-source package or you can use the source from Linus (www.kernel.org). Then you can install the kernel-package and build your kernel using make-kpkg. Also you can look at the documentation at /usr/share/doc/kernel-package. You will also need some other things like fakeroot, etc. When you are all done you will have you very own kernel-image .deb file. Then you can do 'dpkg -i kernel-imageyour version.deb'. Have fun ;). Dan -- Daniel E. Baumann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution: dynamic DNS service, may bounce) Web location: http://www.msoe.edu/~baumannd http://www.linuxfreak.com/~baumannd Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. -- Dave Olson ---
Re: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... I'm going to compile 2.2.2 kernel as an upgrade from 2.2.16. Since this is evenly numbered does that mean it's a stable kernel? Are there any significant improvements over 2.2.16? As many others have indicated, you're thinking of the wrong even number. Kernel versions are indicated by a value: x.y.z. For each value: * x: the major revision number. Only when there is a _huge_ architectural change in the kernel * y: minor revision number. Odd indicates a development series. Even indicates a stable series that you should run if you care anything about stability. * z: patch level. Bug fixes, stability improvements, new drivers, added drivers, etc. That given, 2.2.16 is quite a bit newer (and a hell of a lot more stable) than 2.2.2. Typically, anything x.some even number.6 is considered to be late beta and shouldn't be used in a production environment. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstien
RE: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question
Hellohow do you upgrade from 2.2.16 to 2.2.2?! I would really like to know... Patrick Cheong Information Systems Assurance Measat Broadcast Network Systems e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my -Original Message- From: Dale L . Morris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:19 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: kernel 2.2.2 newbie question I'm going to compile 2.2.2 kernel as an upgrade from 2.2.16. Since this is evenly numbered does that mean it's a stable kernel? Are there any significant improvements over 2.2.16? thanks -- dale Know thyself.. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
