Re: large hard disks (again)

1999-09-26 Thread Daniel Barclay


 From: Kenneth Scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 .  However this is NOT the
 physical geo, which IS reported by the bios and
 stamped on the drive.  

The geometry printed on the label isn't always the
actual IDE geometry; it's typically limited to 16383
cylinders (for BIOSes that can't handle the full
size).


Daniel




large hard disks (again)

1999-09-22 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I have posted this before, how to fdisk a  8.4gb
drive.  Problem was that with slink fdisk saw only
1024 cy, 255h, 63s for a total of 8.4gb.  If I booted
a RedHat 6.0 or Mandrake 6.0 CD (also stormix) their
partition utilities (fdisk, disk druid, etc) would
report the correct number of cyl's (2100) to give a
17.2gb total disk size. 

After partitioning with Stormix I stopped the install,
and booted my slink cd and then installed slink
(skipping the partition step, which was already done).
 This worked.  Now if I run fdisk, it still reports
the wrong(?) number of cyl's but does show the correct
partition sizes (p command).  It also complains about
different logical and physical starting and/or ending
cyl numbers for the last two partitions on the disk. 
However if I go to expert mode (x) and change the
number of cylinders (c) to 2100, the p command now
gives the exact same printout as fdisk under Mandrake
or Redhat fdisk.  So...why does fdisk get the correct
size info from the kernel under Mandrake or Redhat? 
Can it be a difference between the 2.0.36 kernel and
the 2.2 series?  Or is it a later version of fdisk
itself (BTW cfdisk and sfdisk behave the same way...)
I now think the difference is in the 2.2 kernel.
Any ideas?  I now know I can partition under debian by
giving fdisk the correct final cyl number.  But I
still had to use Mandrake fdisk to find this number!


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Re: large hard disks (again)

1999-09-22 Thread Jeff Noxon
The 2.2 kernels will properly detect 1024 cylinders.  For other kernels,
you can put fdisk in xpert mode and override its detection, or you
can also specify the disk geometry on the kernel command line.

Regards,

Jeff

On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 05:14:25AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
 I have posted this before, how to fdisk a  8.4gb
 drive.  Problem was that with slink fdisk saw only
 1024 cy, 255h, 63s for a total of 8.4gb.  If I booted
 a RedHat 6.0 or Mandrake 6.0 CD (also stormix) their
 partition utilities (fdisk, disk druid, etc) would
 report the correct number of cyl's (2100) to give a
 17.2gb total disk size. 
 
 After partitioning with Stormix I stopped the install,
 and booted my slink cd and then installed slink
 (skipping the partition step, which was already done).
  This worked.  Now if I run fdisk, it still reports
 the wrong(?) number of cyl's but does show the correct
 partition sizes (p command).  It also complains about
 different logical and physical starting and/or ending
 cyl numbers for the last two partitions on the disk. 
 However if I go to expert mode (x) and change the
 number of cylinders (c) to 2100, the p command now
 gives the exact same printout as fdisk under Mandrake
 or Redhat fdisk.  So...why does fdisk get the correct
 size info from the kernel under Mandrake or Redhat? 
 Can it be a difference between the 2.0.36 kernel and
 the 2.2 series?  Or is it a later version of fdisk
 itself (BTW cfdisk and sfdisk behave the same way...)
 I now think the difference is in the 2.2 kernel.
 Any ideas?  I now know I can partition under debian by
 giving fdisk the correct final cyl number.  But I
 still had to use Mandrake fdisk to find this number!


Re: large hard disks (again)

1999-09-22 Thread Kenneth Scharf


--- Jeff Noxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The 2.2 kernels will properly detect 1024
 cylinders.  For other kernels,
 you can put fdisk in xpert mode and override its
 detection, or you
 can also specify the disk geometry on the kernel
 command line.
 
 Regards,

Exactly what I suspected.  Only how to figure out the
geometry in the first place?  Anyway I now have that
information for the disk in question.  As soon as
potato is release it will be water under the bridge.

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Re: large hard disks (again)

1999-09-22 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 10:15:37AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
 Exactly what I suspected.  Only how to figure out the
 geometry in the first place?  Anyway I now have that
 information for the disk in question.  As soon as
 potato is release it will be water under the bridge.

Possible sources:
- Label on the drive itself
- Web site of drive manufacturer
- BIOS (Award BIOS in particular has an auto-detect feature, which is not
the same as setting the drive type as AUTO)
- The partition table already on the drive, if the drive has already been
  partitioned by another OS.

And others, I'm sure.

Regards,

Jeff


Re: large hard disks (again)

1999-09-22 Thread Kenneth Scharf
Well the right settings (as reported under the 2.2
kernel to fdisk) seem  to be the number of cyl's that
give the correct capacity with the head and sector
numbers maxed out. (Ie 255 and 64).  In my case for a
17.2 gb drive this was 2100.  However this is NOT the
physical geo, which IS reported by the bios and
stamped on the drive.  

--- Jeff Noxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 10:15:37AM -0700, Kenneth
 Scharf wrote:
  Exactly what I suspected.  Only how to figure out
 the
  geometry in the first place?  Anyway I now have
 that
  information for the disk in question.  As soon as
  potato is release it will be water under the
 bridge.
 
 Possible sources:
 - Label on the drive itself
 - Web site of drive manufacturer
 - BIOS (Award BIOS in particular has an auto-detect
 feature, which is not
 the same as setting the drive type as
 AUTO)
 - The partition table already on the drive, if the
 drive has already been
   partitioned by another OS.
 
 And others, I'm sure.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jeff
 


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