Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition

1998-03-18 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 01:24:33AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why
   when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This
   causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files
   between linux and dos...
  
  Since linux assumes that an MSDOS file system is to be operatable even when 
  it 
  does not mounted by Linux, it doesn't want to intefer with MSDOS file 
  system 
  too much. There for, when mounting an MSDOS file system, Linux stickes with 
  the MSDOS rules.
  But, being aware to the limitations of an MSDOS file system, I believe that 
  Linux tries to make long names short in a consistent and unique way.
  Perhaps the easiest way when dealing with files that lives both on an MSDOS 
  file system and on linux file system is to determine thier names in the 
  8.3 
  format from the beginning.
 
 Huh? The vfat file system does long filenames on Windows partitions
 just fine!  You seem to be using an invalid domain name again btw.

Yes, you can have long file names on a vfat filesystem. But you can't have
long filenames on an msdos filesystem. Scandisk from MS-DOS 6.x (and
probably other programs, too) generates a whole lot of errors if you use
it on a vfat partition, so you shouldn't use long filenames on a partition
that you also use with MS-DOS 6.x (or earlier versions).

You can add long filenames to an msdos filesystem at any time. Just
unmount it and re-mount it as vfat.

Remco


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Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition

1998-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 01:24:33AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why
  when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This
  causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files
  between linux and dos...
 
 Since linux assumes that an MSDOS file system is to be operatable even when 
 it 
 does not mounted by Linux, it doesn't want to intefer with MSDOS file system 
 too much. There for, when mounting an MSDOS file system, Linux stickes with 
 the MSDOS rules.
 But, being aware to the limitations of an MSDOS file system, I believe that 
 Linux tries to make long names short in a consistent and unique way.
 Perhaps the easiest way when dealing with files that lives both on an MSDOS 
 file system and on linux file system is to determine thier names in the 8.3 
 format from the beginning.

Huh? The vfat file system does long filenames on Windows partitions
just fine!  You seem to be using an invalid domain name again btw.


hamish
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Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition

1998-03-14 Thread shaul
   Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why
 when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This
 causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files
 between linux and dos...

Since linux assumes that an MSDOS file system is to be operatable even when it 
does not mounted by Linux, it doesn't want to intefer with MSDOS file system 
too much. There for, when mounting an MSDOS file system, Linux stickes with 
the MSDOS rules.
But, being aware to the limitations of an MSDOS file system, I believe that 
Linux tries to make long names short in a consistent and unique way.
Perhaps the easiest way when dealing with files that lives both on an MSDOS 
file system and on linux file system is to determine thier names in the 8.3 
format from the beginning.


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long filenames in M$Dos partition

1998-03-12 Thread Arunas Norvaisa
  Dear list,

  Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why
when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This
causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files
between linux and dos...

  Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks.



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Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition

1998-03-12 Thread Ben Pfaff
 Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why
   when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This
   causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files
   between linux and dos...

You are probably mounting the drive as `msdos' instead of `vfat'.
Change the partition type to `vfat' in /etc/fstab, or use `-t vfat'
when you mount it.


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Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition

1998-03-12 Thread Steve Hsieh
Mount using filesystem type vfat.


On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote:

   Dear list,
 
   Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why
 when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This
 causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files
 between linux and dos...
 
   Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks.
 
 
 
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Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition

1998-03-12 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote:

 :   Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why
 : when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This
 : causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files
 : between linux and dos...
 : 
 :   Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks.

Try mounting the partition as type 'vfat'. 


bye,
Remco


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Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition

1998-03-12 Thread Carroll Kong
Did you try mounting as vfat?


Carroll Kong

On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote:

   Dear list,
 
   Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why
 when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This
 causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files
 between linux and dos...
 
   Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks.
 
 
 
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