Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition
On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 01:24:33AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files between linux and dos... Since linux assumes that an MSDOS file system is to be operatable even when it does not mounted by Linux, it doesn't want to intefer with MSDOS file system too much. There for, when mounting an MSDOS file system, Linux stickes with the MSDOS rules. But, being aware to the limitations of an MSDOS file system, I believe that Linux tries to make long names short in a consistent and unique way. Perhaps the easiest way when dealing with files that lives both on an MSDOS file system and on linux file system is to determine thier names in the 8.3 format from the beginning. Huh? The vfat file system does long filenames on Windows partitions just fine! You seem to be using an invalid domain name again btw. Yes, you can have long file names on a vfat filesystem. But you can't have long filenames on an msdos filesystem. Scandisk from MS-DOS 6.x (and probably other programs, too) generates a whole lot of errors if you use it on a vfat partition, so you shouldn't use long filenames on a partition that you also use with MS-DOS 6.x (or earlier versions). You can add long filenames to an msdos filesystem at any time. Just unmount it and re-mount it as vfat. Remco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition
On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 01:24:33AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files between linux and dos... Since linux assumes that an MSDOS file system is to be operatable even when it does not mounted by Linux, it doesn't want to intefer with MSDOS file system too much. There for, when mounting an MSDOS file system, Linux stickes with the MSDOS rules. But, being aware to the limitations of an MSDOS file system, I believe that Linux tries to make long names short in a consistent and unique way. Perhaps the easiest way when dealing with files that lives both on an MSDOS file system and on linux file system is to determine thier names in the 8.3 format from the beginning. Huh? The vfat file system does long filenames on Windows partitions just fine! You seem to be using an invalid domain name again btw. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt Mobile: +61 412 011 176 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd. Developers of music education software including Auralia Musition. 31 Elmhurst Road, Blackburn, Victoria Australia, 3130 Phone: +61 3 9894 4788 Fax: +61 3 9894 3362 USA Toll Free: 1-888-667-7839 Internet: http://www.rising.com.au/ -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition
Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files between linux and dos... Since linux assumes that an MSDOS file system is to be operatable even when it does not mounted by Linux, it doesn't want to intefer with MSDOS file system too much. There for, when mounting an MSDOS file system, Linux stickes with the MSDOS rules. But, being aware to the limitations of an MSDOS file system, I believe that Linux tries to make long names short in a consistent and unique way. Perhaps the easiest way when dealing with files that lives both on an MSDOS file system and on linux file system is to determine thier names in the 8.3 format from the beginning. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
long filenames in M$Dos partition
Dear list, Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files between linux and dos... Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks. -- greetz... Arunas Norvaisa - little guy, The Masses Inc. PGP keys on keyservers: IDs: 0x4CE4774E (DSS/DH), 0xC90D7E21 PGP for idiots page http://www1.omnitel.net/an and a US mirror site http://www.post1.com/~arunas Nice computers don't go down. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition
Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files between linux and dos... You are probably mounting the drive as `msdos' instead of `vfat'. Change the partition type to `vfat' in /etc/fstab, or use `-t vfat' when you mount it. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition
Mount using filesystem type vfat. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote: Dear list, Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files between linux and dos... Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks. -- greetz... Arunas Norvaisa - little guy, The Masses Inc. PGP keys on keyservers: IDs: 0x4CE4774E (DSS/DH), 0xC90D7E21 PGP for idiots page http://www1.omnitel.net/an and a US mirror site http://www.post1.com/~arunas Nice computers don't go down. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote: : Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why : when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This : causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files : between linux and dos... : : Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Try mounting the partition as type 'vfat'. bye, Remco -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: long filenames in M$Dos partition
Did you try mounting as vfat? Carroll Kong On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Arunas Norvaisa wrote: Dear list, Can anybody of you please explain to me (hopeless newbie) why when I can't see long filenames on mounted msdos partition? This causes me some pain in the neck as I can't freely manipulate files between linux and dos... Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks. -- greetz... Arunas Norvaisa - little guy, The Masses Inc. PGP keys on keyservers: IDs: 0x4CE4774E (DSS/DH), 0xC90D7E21 PGP for idiots page http://www1.omnitel.net/an and a US mirror site http://www.post1.com/~arunas Nice computers don't go down. -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- E-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]