Re: mutt - no incoming mailboxes defined
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 03:58:51PM +, john gennard wrote:
I've been using Debian since Slink days, but I'm now 81 and had a
stroke some 30 months ago which has done severe damage to my brain.
Have just built a new box and put Debian 6.04 on it. There are a
number of problems with the installation and I'm working through
them one at a time. I'm unable to get my email working and this is
confusing me greatly. I use getmail (this is OK), nullmailer (which
should be fine) and Mutt which is the headache.. I've used this
combination on all previous
You get your mail with getmail then filter into mailboxes?
Do you use procmail or maildrop or something else.
Example:
I use fetchmail:
fetchmail -m /usr/bin/maildrop
That tells fetchmail to use the mail delivery agent maildrop
In .mailfilter (maildrop's config file), I have something like this:
(Note the slash after the directory name e.g. IN-dunlug/)
^
This tells maildrop it is a maildir, no slash and it would be mbox
(see below on directory structure)
##
DEFAULT=$HOME/Mail/IN-Personal
if (/^List-ID:.*dunlug\.lists\.ethernal\.org$/)
{
to $HOME/Mail/IN-dunlug/
}
if (/^List-Id:.*debian-user\.lists\.debian\.org$/)
{
to $HOME/Mail/IN-debian-user/
}
if (/^List-ID:.*fvwm\.fvwm\.org$/)
{
to $HOME/Mail/IN-fvwm/
}
if (/^List-Id:.*netbsd-users\.NetBSD\.org$/)
{
to $HOME/Mail/IN-Netbsd/
}
##
In the .muttrc (sample)
##
set folder=$HOME/Mail/
set spoolfile=$HOME/Mail/IN-Personal/
mailboxes =IN-Personal =IN-debian-user =IN-dunlug =IN-fvwm \
=IN-Netbsd
##
directory structure
===
ls -al /home/chrisb/Mail
drwx-- 13 chrisb chrisb 4096 Mar 12 00:04 .
drwxr-xr-x 68 chrisb chrisb 12288 Mar 17 22:36 ..
drwx-- 5 chrisb chrisb 4096 Jan 25 18:26 IN-Netbsd
drwx-- 5 chrisb chrisb 4096 Jan 25 18:20 IN-Personal
drwx-- 5 chrisb chrisb 4096 Mar 8 04:36 IN-fvwm
drwx-- 5 chrisb chrisb 4096 Jan 25 18:21 IN-debian-user
drwx-- 5 chrisb chrisb 4096 Jan 25 18:23 IN-dunlug
ls -al /home/chrisb/Mail/IN-Netbsd
total 28
drwx-- 5 chrisb chrisb 4096 Jan 25 18:26 .
drwx-- 13 chrisb chrisb 4096 Mar 12 00:04 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 chrisb chrisb 4096 Mar 14 19:31 cur
drwxr-xr-x 2 chrisb chrisb 12288 Mar 17 22:36 new
drwxr-xr-x 2 chrisb chrisb 4096 Mar 17 22:36 tmp
You need to set up the directory structure for each maildir mailbox.
Does this bring back any memories?
Don't hesitate to post back for any clarifications or whatever.
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mutt - no incoming mailboxes defined
I've been using Debian since Slink days, but I'm now 81 and had a stroke some 30 months ago which has done severe damage to my brain. Have just built a new box and put Debian 6.04 on it. There are a number of problems with the installation and I'm working through them one at a time. I'm unable to get my email working and this is confusing me greatly. I use getmail (this is OK), nullmailer (which should be fine) and Mutt which is the headache.. I've used this combination on all previous editions without too much trouble, but now I'm 'lost' - I can't find my original notes from Potato days - presumably I arrogantly thought I wouldn't need - how wrong can one get!!! Would someone kindly explain what Mutt does when it launches, and give the .muttrc entries for mbox, maildir (which I use), and how Mail fits in. I run from my user John's home directory. Sorry to ask such a simple question, but it's so frustrating to be in this state. John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f63633b.4050...@btinternet.com
Re: mutt - no incoming mailboxes defined
On Friday 16 March 2012 15:58:51 john gennard wrote: I've been using Debian since Slink days, but I'm now 81 and had a stroke some 30 months ago which has done severe damage to my brain. [snip] Sorry to ask such a simple question, but it's so frustrating to be in this state. How awful for you. :-( It is soul destroying to face a simple problem, that you could have solved a few years ago while standing on your head and thinking about something else, that is now too much. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt - tho' from a different cause from yours. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201203161616.25644.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: mutt - no incoming mailboxes defined
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:58:51 +, john gennard wrote: I've been using Debian since Slink days, but I'm now 81 and had a stroke some 30 months ago which has done severe damage to my brain. Get my sincerely congrats, sir, for still having the joy to play with computers and messing with Mutt :-) (...) Would someone kindly explain what Mutt does when it launches, If you run Mutt with debug flag you will get more information: mutt -d2 And then: cat .muttdebug0 (don't send this log file to any public source because it can contain sensitive data, is just for your review) and give the .muttrc entries for mbox, maildir (which I use), and how Mail fits in. I run from my user John's home directory. Are you using a local mailbox or a pop3/imap local account? There's a nice guide here: My first mutt / Mail storage http://mutt.blackfish.org.uk/storage/ Sorry to ask such a simple question, but it's so frustrating to be in this state. There is nothing to sorry about. Mutt configuration it can be a bit cryptic. I still barely use the 15% of its capabilities :-P Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jjvrul$gio$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: mutt - no incoming mailboxes defined
On 16/03/2012 17:06, Camaleón wrote: Would someone kindly explain what Mutt does when it launches, If you run Mutt with debug flag you will get more information: mutt -d2 And then: cat .muttdebug0 (don't send this log file to any public source because it can contain sensitive data, is just for your review) and give the .muttrc entries for mbox, maildir (which I use), and how Mail fits in. I run from my user John's home directory. Are you using a local mailbox or a pop3/imap local account? I have two POP3 accounts one with Btinternet and the other with Claranet. There's a nice guide here: My first mutt / Mail storage http://mutt.blackfish.org.uk/storage/ I need time to study your email - will get back to you when I've done. Meantime, my thanks for your help. John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f639130.60...@btinternet.com
Postfix: local aliases vs virtual mailboxes
Hello, As a newbie I need advices concerning Postfix accounts method. I am dithering between aliases to local system accounts and virtual mailboxes. I have only a domain to manage (so virtual mailboxes are not mandatory, only an option) But I need a good level of security So : - alias to local accounts with /bin/false for users in /etc/passwd plus netfilter and pam restriction (ssh ...) - virtual mailboxes Thanks for reply _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail http://mail.yahoo.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postfix: local aliases vs virtual mailboxes
On 2007-12-13T17:55:08+0100, Stephane Durieux wrote: But I need a good level of security So : - alias to local accounts with /bin/false for users in /etc/passwd plus netfilter and pam restriction (ssh ...) - virtual mailboxes If you do not need the accounts then use virtual mailboxes, otherwise use (plain) aliases. I alias all system accounts to root, and root to user accounts for administrators (i.e. me). On my personal work-station I also have a virtual alias: allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] so mail send from this host to myself is delivered locally instead of sent to my central mail server (replyhost). /Allan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
offlineimap with more than two mailboxes?
Hi. Has anyone tried to use offlineimap to synchronize more than two mailboxes? I suppose it should just work, but if it does not, then I'd possibly lose some email. I was thinking of having one main server, A, and two sattelite boxes, B and C, syncing with the server. But I'd delete and move emails around in the satellite boxes, and expect the changes to reflect on the others. (I will *not* sync the satellite systems among themselves, as I guess this would probably confuse offlineimap) So -- did anyone try this before? Did it work? Thanks, J. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmail doesn't delivery to local mailboxes?
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:08:23 -0700 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Orestes leal wrote in Article [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: Recently i've setup fetchmail to get all mail from 7 accounts (remember that in another post was with getmail), the problem is that when fetchmail get the mail it doesn't deliver to local mailboxes and I don't know why, some help always be welcome. Might want to start a new thread instead of hijacking another thread next time. The How to set 'using dhcp hostname' thread you replied to to post your question only got your entirely different topic question as a reply. Remember, reply and new message are exactly what they're for; you can't use reply to start a new message and you can't start a new message for a reply and expect proper threading. Hey, this is old, I've already apologies about that. -- Paul Johnson Orestes Leal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmail doesn't delivery to local mailboxes?
Orestes leal wrote in Article [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: Recently i've setup fetchmail to get all mail from 7 accounts (remember that in another post was with getmail), the problem is that when fetchmail get the mail it doesn't deliver to local mailboxes and I don't know why, some help always be welcome. Might want to start a new thread instead of hijacking another thread next time. The How to set 'using dhcp hostname' thread you replied to to post your question only got your entirely different topic question as a reply. Remember, reply and new message are exactly what they're for; you can't use reply to start a new message and you can't start a new message for a reply and expect proper threading. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail doesn't delivery to local mailboxes?
Hi folks! Recently i've setup fetchmail to get all mail from 7 accounts (remember that in another post was with getmail), the problem is that when fetchmail get the mail it doesn't deliver to local mailboxes and I don't know why, some help always be welcome. Regards, Orestes. NOTE: My .fetchmailrc looks like this and all procedures with my mail server to get the email it's working good (at least to my knowledge). set logfile /var/log/fetchmail.log set postmaster root poll 192.168.54.3 proto pop3 port 110 user orestesleal with pass *** is orestesleal here user orestesleal13022 with pass unreal06 is orestesleal13022 here -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmail doesn't delivery to local mailboxes?
On 06/15/07 07:47, Orestes leal wrote: Hi folks! Recently i've setup fetchmail to get all mail from 7 accounts (remember that in another post was with getmail), the problem is that when fetchmail get the mail it doesn't deliver to local mailboxes and I don't know why, some help always be welcome. Regards, Orestes. NOTE: My .fetchmailrc looks like this and all procedures with my mail server to get the email it's working good (at least to my knowledge). set logfile /var/log/fetchmail.log set postmaster root poll 192.168.54.3 proto pop3 port 110 user orestesleal with pass *** is orestesleal here user orestesleal13022 with pass unreal06 is orestesleal13022 here Does /var/log/mail.log give you any clues? (My fetchmail is configured to deliver mail to postfix so that it can run spamassassin on it.) -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmail doesn't delivery to local mailboxes?
Orestes leal escribe: Recently i've setup fetchmail to get all mail from 7 accounts (remember that in another post was with getmail), the problem is that when fetchmail get the mail it doesn't deliver to local mailboxes and I don't know why, some help always be welcome. I always let fetchmail use /usr/bin/procmail as mda, bypassing the locally installed SMTP server. Faster and more easily traceable. Cordially, Ismael -- Ismael Valladolid Torres m. +34679156321 La media hostia j. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lamediahostia.blogspot.com/
Re: fetchmail doesn't delivery to local mailboxes?
On Vie, 15 de Junio de 2007, 5:20 pm, Ismael Valladolid Torres dijo: Orestes leal escribe: Recently i've setup fetchmail to get all mail from 7 accounts (remember that in another post was with getmail), the problem is that when fetchmail get the mail it doesn't deliver to local mailboxes and I don't know why, some help always be welcome. I always let fetchmail use /usr/bin/procmail as mda, bypassing the locally installed SMTP server. Faster and more easily traceable. I will try it tomorrow, thanks for the time friend and to the other folks. Saludos Cubanos. Orestes
migrating sylpheed-claws mailboxes to cyrus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi i finally as able to set up my personal mailserver and now i have to migrate 2 mailboxes from the local storage to the server. the current format is MH from sylpheed-claws which should be quite similar to the internal cyrus storage format and i'm searching for a to migrate to whole mailboxes whith over 100 folders and subfolders and nearly 20 mails...so it has to be quite automated. i do have full access to the server if that is a question does anybody have any experiences or ideas how to do that? tia yours albert - -- Albert Dengg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFErXJlhrtSwvbWj0kRAibEAJ9XPwJlSW/9FUEOCcMd2p2kG7FUCgCfb1Y6 tXlrS2m5ZU48Q4m/cMFagR8= =awW9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Purging mailboxes in mutt
Gidday, I'm running a Sarge server with Postfix/Procmail/Dovecot and Maildir style mailboxes. I have a number of users that want to use a local text-based mail reader from time to time. Pine is no longer an option, so I've shifted to Mutt. I almost have it working, but can't figure out one thing: If I have an IMAP client somewhere that moves/deletes messages from the INBOX, they're flagged as Deleted and appear in Mutt as such. However when I go to quit Mutt and it prompts me to purge the deleted messages, if I answer 'no', then it will always un-mark any messages I have deleted in that session, and there seems to be a 50/50 chance it will also un-mark messages deleted by other sessions. One workaround appears to be to set maildir_trash=yes in /etc/Muttrc. This purges the mailbox on program exit, but that can be dangerous if someone accidentally deletes a message and quits Mutt. any ideas? thanks, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Purging mailboxes in mutt
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 12:15:23PM +1300, Greg Trounson wrote: However when I go to quit Mutt and it prompts me to purge the deleted messages, if I answer 'no', then it will always un-mark any messages I have deleted in that session, and there seems to be a 50/50 chance it will also un-mark messages deleted by other sessions. Set up mutt to do everything via IMAP. Be well, rir -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to restore IMAP mailboxes
Thanks. I was also considering starting a second version of cyrus listening on different port (144) and giving it a config to point it to /mnt/var (old /var mounted on /mnt). There seem to be several utilities out there for synchronising mailboxes between two IMAP instances. Any suggestions as to which to choose? TIA, -a On 11/6/05, Daniel Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 08:46:28PM -0500, Aaron Stromas wrote: Greetings, Somehow during my Debian upgrade I managed to trash my Cyrus 2.1 IMAP server, it no longer boots. I ended up rebuilding the system on the second drive and, luckily, I can mount the old /var filesystem which contains all the IMAP data. How can I migrate user mailboxes from the old server to the new? TIA for any suggestions.Maybe this thread can help ?http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2005/08/msg00019.htmlI used to do it more or less that same way on older Cyrus servers, and that worked. Just remember that subscriptions are lost and that allmessages are unseen./Daniel--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to restore IMAP mailboxes
On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 08:46:28PM -0500, Aaron Stromas wrote: Greetings, Somehow during my Debian upgrade I managed to trash my Cyrus 2.1 IMAP server, it no longer boots. I ended up rebuilding the system on the second drive and, luckily, I can mount the old /var filesystem which contains all the IMAP data. How can I migrate user mailboxes from the old server to the new? TIA for any suggestions. Maybe this thread can help ? http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2005/08/msg00019.html I used to do it more or less that same way on older Cyrus servers, and that worked. Just remember that subscriptions are lost and that all messages are unseen. /Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to restore IMAP mailboxes
Greetings, Somehow during my Debian upgrade I managed to trash my Cyrus 2.1 IMAP server, it no longer boots. I ended up rebuilding the system on the second drive and, luckily, I can mount the old /var filesystem which contains all the IMAP data. How can I migrate user mailboxes from the old server to the new? TIA for any suggestions. -a
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
Dear Wayne! On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 10:34:19AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Csanyi Pal([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Up to now exim4 forward the mails in to /var/mail/fetchmail mailbox. I use Mutt to read these mails, and then save them to appropriate ~Mail/mailbox. My question is: how to configure exim4 to forward mails to procmail? I will appreciate any suggestion! Thanks! See /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template procmail_pipe: Now I did these: * edit /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf : and add the line dc_localdelivery='procmail_pipe' * restart exim4 : invoke-rc.d exim4 restart * view the /var/log/exim4/mainlog (These are lines for one mail only): [127.0.0.1] U=fetchmail P=esmtp S=8724 [EMAIL PROTECTED] fetchmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=local_user T=procmail_pipe Completed It is not quit clear to me this message abowe. It seems to me that exim4 get the mail from fetchmail and process it forward to esmtp, isn't it? But I don't understand the line fetchmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=local_user T=procmail_pipe. Can you explain to me that, that what for stand fetchmail on the front of the line? And why I still get the mails in /var/mail/fetchmail box, instead in the ~/Mail/mbox -es? Thanks! -- Regards, Paul Debian Junior Project, DebianEdu, Moodle - :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) http://www.ektf.hu/~Csanyi.Pal (Up to now, it is in Hungarian only.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 04:21:26PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: You shouldn't need any reference to SMTP in your procmailrc. All you have to do is simple. Have a procmailrc and a fetchmailrc in your local user directory. Use fetchmail via the same user that reads the e-mail. I run fetchmail as a daemon. In the /etc/init.d/fetchmail stands: # Defaults DAEMON=/usr/bin/fetchmail CONFFILE=/etc/fetchmailrc OPTIONS=-f $CONFFILE PIDFILE=/var/run/fetchmail/.fetchmail.pid UIDL=/var/mail/.fetchmail-UIDL-cache USER=fetchmail ^^ Is USER=fetchmail correct? And you say mail ends up in /var/mail/fetchmail? seems suspicious. Would You explain to me the meaning of the question Is USER=fetchmail correct?? User fetchmail has ben created automatically when I have installed fetchmail. So the user fetchmail should be correct in any way. I dont run fetchmail as a daemon. but 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow fetchmail' doesn't offer to allow you to change it. :-( (not that I want to) I suggest reinstall fetchmail and don't have it as a daemon Thank you for this suggestion, but don't you think that that if fetchmail run as daemon, it is not possible to configure the system fetchmail - exim4 - procmail - ~/Mail/mailboxes? Up to now exim4 forward the mails in to /var/mail/fetchmail mailbox. I use Mutt to read these mails, and then save them to appropriate ~Mail/mailbox. My question is: how to configure exim4 to forward mails to procmail? I will appreciate any suggestion! Thanks! -- Regards, Paul --- Debian Junior Project :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) http://www.ektf.hu/~Csanyi.Pal (Up to now it is in Hungarian only.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
Csanyi Pal([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Up to now exim4 forward the mails in to /var/mail/fetchmail mailbox. I use Mutt to read these mails, and then save them to appropriate ~Mail/mailbox. My question is: how to configure exim4 to forward mails to procmail? I will appreciate any suggestion! Thanks! See /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template procmail_pipe: Wayne -- The day-to-day travails of the IBM programmer are so amusing to most of us who are fortunate enough never to have been one -- like watching Charlie Chaplin trying to cook a shoe. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 04:18:05PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:17AM -0400, Steve ? wrote: You shouldn't need any reference to SMTP in your procmailrc. All you have to do is simple. Have a procmailrc and a fetchmailrc in your local user directory. Use fetchmail via the same user that reads the e-mail. I run fetchmail as a daemon. In the /etc/init.d/fetchmail stands: # Defaults DAEMON=/usr/bin/fetchmail CONFFILE=/etc/fetchmailrc OPTIONS=-f $CONFFILE PIDFILE=/var/run/fetchmail/.fetchmail.pid UIDL=/var/mail/.fetchmail-UIDL-cache USER=fetchmail ^^ Is USER=fetchmail correct? And you say mail ends up in /var/mail/fetchmail? seems suspicious. I dont run fetchmail as a daemon. but 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow fetchmail' doesn't offer to allow you to change it. :-( (not that I want to) I suggest reinstall fetchmail and don't have it as a daemon As a normal user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ less .fetchmailrc poll your.pop.server with protocol pop3 user isp-login-nane password isp-mail-password [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al .fetchmailrc -rw--- 1 chrisb chrisb 74 2005-01-18 02:48 .fetchmailrc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ less .forward |/usr/bin/procmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al .forward -rw-r--r-- 1 chrisb chrisb 19 2005-01-19 23:03 .forward HTH -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim4 - local mailboxes
Hello! I use exim4 with smarthost. fetchmail get for me the mails from a pop3 mailserver. I'm subscribed on a several mailing lists and I want that exim4 forwards these mails in the separate mailboxes on my local system. I try to use exim4 with procmail; I create the $HOME/.forward file with pipe to procmail: |/usr/bin/procmail -d csanyipal and create the $HOME/.procmailrc with the approppriate lines with mailboxes: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail-log :0: * ^To.*debian-user debian-user :0: * ^To.*help-gnustep help-gnustep :0: * ^To.*wm-user wm-user etc. , but I still get mails in the /var/mail/fetchmail. Please help me to configure exim4 and procmail for this task. Thanks! -- Regards, Paul --- Debian Junior Project :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 12:29:05PM +0200 or thereabouts, Csanyi Pal wrote: Hello! I use exim4 with smarthost. fetchmail get for me the mails from a pop3 mailserver. I'm subscribed on a several mailing lists and I want that exim4 forwards these mails in the separate mailboxes on my local system. I try to use exim4 with procmail; I create the $HOME/.forward file with pipe to procmail: |/usr/bin/procmail -d csanyipal and create the $HOME/.procmailrc with the approppriate lines with mailboxes: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail-log snip procmail recipe etc. , but I still get mails in the /var/mail/fetchmail. Please help me to configure exim4 and procmail for this task. Thanks! I have almost an identical setup with exim4/procmail/fetchmail on Sarge. I don't use a '.forward' file. I simply have a '.fetchmailrc' in my ~/home and a '.procmailrc' in my home. I would suggest you try a similar setup. -- Steve A. --- Tuesday Jul 19 2005 08:40:02 EDT --- The English have no respect for their language, and will not teach their children to speak it. -- G. B. Shaw signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
Hello! On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 08:51:16AM -0400, Steve ? wrote: I have almost an identical setup with exim4/procmail/fetchmail on Sarge. I don't use a '.forward' file. I simply have a '.fetchmailrc' in my ~/home and a '.procmailrc' in my home. I would suggest you try a similar setup. Have you in your fetchmailrc this setup: mda 'procmail' ? I have this one: smtp localhost and I want that that fetchmail give the mails to exim4. And then, I want that that exim4 forwards the mails to procmail, but I don't know how to do this? -- Regards, Paul --- Debian Junior Project :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) http://www.ektf.hu/~Csanyi.Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 03:02:35PM +0200 or thereabouts, Csanyi Pal wrote: Hello! On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 08:51:16AM -0400, Steve ? wrote: I have almost an identical setup with exim4/procmail/fetchmail on Sarge. I don't use a '.forward' file. I simply have a '.fetchmailrc' in my ~/home and a '.procmailrc' in my home. I would suggest you try a similar setup. Have you in your fetchmailrc this setup: mda 'procmail' ? I have this one: smtp localhost and I want that that fetchmail give the mails to exim4. And then, I want that that exim4 forwards the mails to procmail, but I don't know how to do this? You shouldn't need any reference to SMTP in your procmailrc. All you have to do is simple. Have a procmailrc and a fetchmailrc in your local user directory. Use fetchmail via the same user that reads the e-mail. Here is the start of my '~/home/.procmailrc' file, remember NO .forward file is needed, you should test it without any rules other than the one shown; MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/ LOGFILE=$HOME/Mail/procmaillog FORMAIL=/usr/bin/formail SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail :0: IN.inbox Fetchmail should automatically hand e-mail off to Exim4. I didn't set up anything for that to work. If one has a .prcomailrc in their ~/home then, Exim4 should automatically hand it off to procmail. I'm assuming you're wanting a single drop ? This wouldn't work for a multi-user setup. -- Steve A. --- Tuesday Jul 19 2005 09:25:02 EDT --- I never met a man I didn't want to fight. -- Lyle Alzado, professional football lineman signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:17AM -0400, Steve ? wrote: You shouldn't need any reference to SMTP in your procmailrc. All you have to do is simple. Have a procmailrc and a fetchmailrc in your local user directory. Use fetchmail via the same user that reads the e-mail. I run fetchmail as a daemon. In the /etc/init.d/fetchmail stands: # Defaults DAEMON=/usr/bin/fetchmail CONFFILE=/etc/fetchmailrc OPTIONS=-f $CONFFILE PIDFILE=/var/run/fetchmail/.fetchmail.pid UIDL=/var/mail/.fetchmail-UIDL-cache USER=fetchmail Here is the start of my '~/home/.procmailrc' file, remember NO .forward file is needed, you should test it without any rules other than the one shown; MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/ LOGFILE=$HOME/Mail/procmaillog FORMAIL=/usr/bin/formail SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail Now I edit my .procmailrc like abowe. I moved the .forward file. I restart exim4 and fetchmail daemon, but nothing new happen. Fetchmail should automatically hand e-mail off to Exim4. I didn't set up anything for that to work. If one has a .prcomailrc in their ~/home then, Exim4 should automatically hand it off to procmail. I'm assuming you're wanting a single drop ? This wouldn't work for a multi-user setup. Yes, I'm wanting a single drop. -- Regards, Paul --- Debian Junior Project :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) http://www.ektf.hu/~Csanyi.Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4 - local mailboxes
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 04:18:05PM +0200 or thereabouts, Csanyi Pal wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:39:17AM -0400, Steve ? wrote: fetchmail via the same user that reads the e-mail. I run fetchmail as a daemon. In the /etc/init.d/fetchmail stands: # Defaults DAEMON=/usr/bin/fetchmail CONFFILE=/etc/fetchmailrc OPTIONS=-f $CONFFILE PIDFILE=/var/run/fetchmail/.fetchmail.pid UIDL=/var/mail/.fetchmail-UIDL-cache USER=fetchmail For mine to work the way I described, fetchmail doesn't run as a Daemon, but as a cron script called by the user that reads the e-mail. I wouldn't run it as a Daemon. Cheers. -- Steve A. --- Tuesday Jul 19 2005 17:05:02 EDT --- When a float occurs on the same page as the start of a supertabular you can expect unexpected results. -- Documentation of supertabular.sty signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Mutt, imap and mailboxes?
I'm trying to configure Mutt at my office to handle 2 different IMAPS
mail servers. Currently in my muttrc I have this:
set spoolfile={mail1/ssl}INBOX
set folder={mail1/ssl}
mailboxes {mail1/ssl}INBOX
mailboxes imaps://archives
mailboxes imaps://archives/corporate
mailboxes imaps://archives/corporate/syst
the 1st line works great. The rest are the problem. There is no
INBOX and those 3 are directories. In the syst directory is another
subset of directories which have the actual mailboxes in them.
In order to access the archives I have to c then tab and change to
mail1, then do that again and change back to archives. Any operation
in there repeats for all 3 telling me that it's not a selectable
mailbox. If I open a mailbox in syst/june and I try to do a search,
it give me XXX isn't a selectable mailbox for each of the 3 which
are dirs.
Anyone have an idea if I have the wrong syntax or any ideas? I've
read most of the muttrc files I can find on google and the docs,
nothing covers trying to read 2 or more mailboxes which are actually
on different servers or the mailboxes are on different servers and
directories of directories with mailboxes.
I've tried the mutt mailing list, no responses there.
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Re: Mutt, imap and mailboxes?
Robert Harris wrote:
I'm trying to configure Mutt at my office to handle 2 different IMAPS
mail servers. Currently in my muttrc I have this:
set spoolfile={mail1/ssl}INBOX
set folder={mail1/ssl}
mailboxes {mail1/ssl}INBOX
mailboxes imaps://archives
mailboxes imaps://archives/corporate
mailboxes imaps://archives/corporate/syst
the 1st line works great. The rest are the problem. There is no
INBOX and those 3 are directories. In the syst directory is another
subset of directories which have the actual mailboxes in them.
In order to access the archives I have to c then tab and change to
mail1, then do that again and change back to archives. Any operation
in there repeats for all 3 telling me that it's not a selectable
mailbox. If I open a mailbox in syst/june and I try to do a search,
it give me XXX isn't a selectable mailbox for each of the 3 which
are dirs.
Anyone have an idea if I have the wrong syntax or any ideas? I've
read most of the muttrc files I can find on google and the docs,
nothing covers trying to read 2 or more mailboxes which are actually
on different servers or the mailboxes are on different servers and
directories of directories with mailboxes.
I've tried the mutt mailing list, no responses there.
Have you tried just getting rid of the two lines that refer to
directories and not mailboxes?
Example, just have:
mailboxes {mail1/ssl}INBOX
mailboxes imaps://archives/corporate/syst
Wouldn't that work?
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Re: Mutt, imap and mailboxes?
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:51:15 -0600, Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert Harris wrote:
I'm trying to configure Mutt at my office to handle 2 different IMAPS
mail servers. Currently in my muttrc I have this:
set spoolfile={mail1/ssl}INBOX
set folder={mail1/ssl}
mailboxes {mail1/ssl}INBOX
mailboxes imaps://archives
mailboxes imaps://archives/corporate
mailboxes imaps://archives/corporate/syst
the 1st line works great. The rest are the problem. There is no
INBOX and those 3 are directories. In the syst directory is another
subset of directories which have the actual mailboxes in them.
In order to access the archives I have to c then tab and change to
mail1, then do that again and change back to archives. Any operation
in there repeats for all 3 telling me that it's not a selectable
mailbox. If I open a mailbox in syst/june and I try to do a search,
it give me XXX isn't a selectable mailbox for each of the 3 which
are dirs.
Anyone have an idea if I have the wrong syntax or any ideas? I've
read most of the muttrc files I can find on google and the docs,
nothing covers trying to read 2 or more mailboxes which are actually
on different servers or the mailboxes are on different servers and
directories of directories with mailboxes.
I've tried the mutt mailing list, no responses there.
Have you tried just getting rid of the two lines that refer to
directories and not mailboxes?
Example, just have:
mailboxes {mail1/ssl}INBOX
mailboxes imaps://archives/corporate/syst
Wouldn't that work?
The INBOX one is the only one that is a file. The syst is also a
directory containing files.
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invisible mailboxes in evolution
I'm using Debian Testing, and it's been working for about the last eight months w/o too much issue. I have a sudden problem now though, that being that I can open Evolution and see the summary, calendar, and task pages, but nothing with an email in it (drafts/sent/trash/inbox/etc.). Clicking on one of those folders presents me with an empty window pane, with just the std search bar at the top present for that display. I've checked everything I can think of, including verifying I had no hidden messages. I thought perhaps I'd muffed my $home/evolution directory, so backed the current one up, and restored from a month's old backup. Same exact problem, though the display no longer recognized that I had any unread emails. Debian Testing, Evolution 1.4.6, Gnome 2.6 I'd appreciate any tips or help. Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: invisible mailboxes in evolution
I've since created a new user in Linux, logged in as that user, and launched evo. It worked. I nuked that local $home/evolution directory and copied the *problem* one from my normal home directory over, and it launched evolution again. Still worked, this time with all of my mail/settings. Back to the original user account, and still doesn't work. I tried setting the Gnome theme/icons to default, as I've read that can cause problems. I've also tried nuking $home/evolution and starting over, but still the same issues. I have noticed though that removing $home/evolution DOES NOT remove my summary page settings. It still keeps the same weather, rss feeds, etc. I'm wondering if something is messed up here, causing my problems. I don't know where that stuff is at though. Ideas? Thanks again, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a script to compress mailboxes and touch new?
Hello, My Mail boxes are getting quite large and I was wondering if anyone had a script to append and gzip the files and touch new ones? -- Jake Johnson http://www.plutoid.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a script to compress mailboxes and touch new?
On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 12:08:44AM -0700, Jake Johnson wrote: Hello, My Mail boxes are getting quite large and I was wondering if anyone had a script to append and gzip the files and touch new ones? apt-get install archivemail Works a treat here. -- Andrew Shipton It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity.-- Dave Barry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'mailboxes' in mutt...
Moin, * Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-01 21:53]: Am 2003-11-01 21:27:19, schrieb Thorsten Haude: Das Problem ist 'date' was bei jeder Mailbox neu aufgerufen wird. Vielleicht ist das Konzept doch nicht so gut. Ich weiß ja nicht, wie oft Du date aufrufst, aber das sollte einige Dutzend Male funktionierern, ohne daß Du etwas merkst. Aber ich muss ja irgendwie beim Aufruf die drei Variablen generieren, und mein Problem ist, das ich nicht ohne weiteres von 'mutt' aus ein Script einmalig aufrufen kann, damit die drei Variablen gesetzt werden. Läuft Dein Rechner (bzw. Mutt) so lange, daß Du sie nicht beim Start setzen kannst? Dann fällt mir spontan nur eine Kommunikation über Fifos ein, das wird aber schnell aufwendig. Evtl. mit -n. Neee, - das verhindert lediglich den Zeilenumbruch NACH der Ausgabe. Ich weiß, darum habe ich's ja erwähnt. Thorsten -- Why do we drink cow's milk? Who was the first guy who first looked at a cow and said I think I'll drink whatever comes out of these things when I squeeze 'em!? - Calvin pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'mailboxes' in mutt...
Am 2003-11-02 08:06:13, schrieb Thorsten Haude: Moin, * Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-01 21:53]: Am 2003-11-01 21:27:19, schrieb Thorsten Haude: Das Problem ist 'date' was bei jeder Mailbox neu aufgerufen wird. Vielleicht ist das Konzept doch nicht so gut. Ich weiß ja nicht, wie oft Du date aufrufst, aber das sollte einige Dutzend Male funktionierern, ohne daß Du etwas merkst. 82 mal ;-) Aber ich muss ja irgendwie beim Aufruf die drei Variablen generieren, und mein Problem ist, das ich nicht ohne weiteres von 'mutt' aus ein Script einmalig aufrufen kann, damit die drei Variablen gesetzt werden. Läuft Dein Rechner (bzw. Mutt) so lange, daß Du sie nicht beim Start setzen kannst? Dann fällt mir spontan nur eine Kommunikation über Fifos ein, das wird aber schnell aufwendig. ??? Vor vier Tagen hatte ich leider einen Stromasfall... Da hatte er sich gebootet... # Uptime | System Boot up +- 137 days, 12:37:59 | Linux 2.4.19-vectra-wo Fri Aug 29 00:37:43 2003 218 days, 20:16:19 | Linux 2.4.19-vectra-wo Sat Jul 12 21:24:47 2003 314 days, 05:31:28 | Linux 2.4.19-vectra-wo Mon Jun 16 13:35:20 2003 4 9 days, 22:20:37 | Linux 2.4.19-vectra-wo Sat Oct 18 15:05:56 2003 5 8 days, 04:29:25 | Linux 2.4.19-vectra-wo Wed Aug 20 16:44:30 2003 6 6 days, 01:24:45 | Linux 2.4.19-vectra-wo Sun Oct 5 13:24:16 2003 7 5 days, 17:36:47 | Linux 2.4.19-vectra-wo Sun Aug 10 22:39:44 2003 - 8 4 days, 20:13:20 | Linux 2.4.19-vectra-wo Tue Oct 28 21:53:23 2003 +- Soo oft boote ich die Kiste nicht... Habs jetzt mit einem CRON-Job gelöst... Thorsten Grüße Michelle -- Registered Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
'mailboxes' in mutt...
Hallo, ich habe in meiner ~/.mutt/muttrc den folgenden Eintrag, der auch einwandfrei funktioniert: mailboxes +INBOX \ +Privat/INBOX \ +Linux/INBOX \ +Dos/INBOX \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date +%Y-%m` \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date +%Y-%m` \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date +%Y-%m` \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date +%Y-%m` \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date +%Y-%m` \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date +%Y-%m` Das einzige was mich nervt sind die Monatsübergänge, da dann mails im Vormonatsfolder und dem aktuellen landen... Frage: Wie kann ich elegant lösen, das von den selektierten Haupt-Mailboxen der Vormonat und der Aktuelle monat verwendet wird ? Danke Michelle -- Registered Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: 'mailboxes' in mutt...
Moin, * Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-01 13:34]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date +%Y-%m` \ Frage: Wie kann ich elegant lösen, das von den selektierten Haupt-Mailboxen der Vormonat und der Aktuelle monat verwendet wird ? Vielleicht so: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date --date='1 month ago' +%Y-%m` Thorsten -- A: Top posters Q: What's the most annoying thing about email these days? pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'mailboxes' in mutt...
Am 2003-11-01 14:02:26, schrieb Thorsten Haude: Moin, N'abend Vielleicht so: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`date --date='1 month ago' +%Y-%m` Da hätte ich auch selber drauf kommen können... Aber das macht warscheinlich das komische Essen hier im Krankenhaus. Aber ich habe nun ein neues Problem... Wenn mutt meine Configs einließt kann ich Kaffepause machen... Habe versucht, 'mutt' drei variablen zu übergeben und sowas wie [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_Y # 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_M # 2000-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_P # 2000-10 zu machen. Die Frage ist, wie bekomme ich Variablen in 'mutt' hinein ? Alles was ich bis jetzt gemacht habe, gibt mir fehlermeldungen zurück. Thorsten Grüße Michelle -- Registered Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: 'mailboxes' in mutt...
Moin, * Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-01 20:29]: Wenn mutt meine Configs einließt kann ich Kaffepause machen... Bei welchem Teil? Falls noch nicht passiert, solltest Du Deine Konfiguration sinnvoll auf mehrere Dateien verteilen, dann kannst Du sowas leichte debuggen. Habe versucht, 'mutt' drei variablen zu übergeben und sowas wie [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_Y # 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_M # 2000-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_P # 2000-10 zu machen. Die Frage ist, wie bekomme ich Variablen in 'mutt' hinein ? Auch wieder ungetestet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`echo $MBOX_Y` Evtl. mit -n. Thorsten -- copy protection n. - A class of methods for preventing incompetent pirates from stealing software and legitimate customers from using it. Considered silly. - The Jargon File pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'mailboxes' in mutt...
Am 2003-11-01 21:27:19, schrieb Thorsten Haude: Moin, * Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-01 20:29]: Wenn mutt meine Configs einließt kann ich Kaffepause machen... Bei welchem Teil? sorce .mutt/mailboxes Falls noch nicht passiert, solltest Du Deine Konfiguration sinnvoll auf mehrere Dateien verteilen, dann kannst Du sowas leichte debuggen. Sind 22 Stück Das Problem ist 'date' was bei jeder Mailbox neu aufgerufen wird. Habe versucht, 'mutt' drei variablen zu übergeben und sowas wie [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_Y # 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_M # 2000-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/$MBOX_P # 2000-10 zu machen. Die Frage ist, wie bekomme ich Variablen in 'mutt' hinein ? Auch wieder ungetestet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/`echo $MBOX_Y` 'echo' brauchst Du nicht... Aber ich muss ja irgendwie beim Aufruf die drei Variablen generieren, und mein Problem ist, das ich nicht ohne weiteres von 'mutt' aus ein Script einmalig aufrufen kann, damit die drei Variablen gesetzt werden. Evtl. mit -n. Neee, - das verhindert lediglich den Zeilenumbruch NACH der Ausgabe. Hmmm, vieleicht sollte ich die Variablen global mit einem cronjob um Mitternacht setzen... Thorsten Grüße Michelle -- Registered Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:19, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:53:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 01:36, Karsten M. Self wrote: maildir. Much better performance, more flexible, you can access messages as individual files, and more robust. Plus 'From' doesn't need to be escaped at start of line. Why better performance? If there's lots of messages, directory manipulation becomes very slow (at least on IDE drive). Directory insertion/deletion (Maildir) vs. file insertion/deletion (mbox). Mailder is far more robust (djb gets _some_ things right). And deals with simultaneous access and multiple updates (say, d-u, where I typically get new mail every few minutes) far better than mbox. I try to keep my mailboxes 1k messages, though with Maildir I've had 20k+ messages with few problems. While we're on the topic: I'm thinking of building an IMAP server out of a Via EPIA 5000 mobo (533MHz Eden CPU http://www.mini-itx.com/store/default.asp?c=2#p2), 512MB RAM 40GB HDD. Will this have the oomph to open large mail directories, etc, in a timely fashion? Only 2 people will be using it, but I get ~3600 spams per day. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Oh, great altar of passive entertainment, bestow upon me thy discordant images at such speed as to render linear thought impossible Calvin, regarding TV -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 02:20, Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:19, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:53:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 01:36, Karsten M. Self wrote: maildir. Much better performance, more flexible, you can access messages as individual files, and more robust. Plus 'From' doesn't need to be escaped at start of line. Why better performance? If there's lots of messages, directory manipulation becomes very slow (at least on IDE drive). Directory insertion/deletion (Maildir) vs. file insertion/deletion (mbox). Mailder is far more robust (djb gets _some_ things right). And deals with simultaneous access and multiple updates (say, d-u, where I typically get new mail every few minutes) far better than mbox. I try to keep my mailboxes 1k messages, though with Maildir I've had 20k+ messages with few problems. While we're on the topic: I'm thinking of building an IMAP server out of a Via EPIA 5000 mobo (533MHz Eden CPU http://www.mini-itx.com/store/default.asp?c=2#p2), 512MB RAM 40GB HDD. Will this have the oomph to open large mail directories, etc, in a timely fashion? Only 2 people will be using it, but I get ~3600 spams per day. My IMAP (Courier) server is an Athlon 650 with 128 MB of RAM, and an old (probably ATA 66, or maybe even 33) 8 GB hard drive. With it, opening up my debian-user folder which generally gets up to about 2k messages before I start archiving, takes about 3 seconds in Evolution. In mutt, since AFAIK mutt doesn't cache the folders at all, it can take 10 - 15 seconds to open up at times. But once it's all opened up, everything works just fine. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 04:39, Alex Malinovich wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 02:20, Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:19, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:53:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 01:36, Karsten M. Self wrote: maildir. Much better performance, more flexible, you can access messages as individual files, and more robust. Plus 'From' doesn't need to be escaped at start of line. Why better performance? If there's lots of messages, directory manipulation becomes very slow (at least on IDE drive). Directory insertion/deletion (Maildir) vs. file insertion/deletion (mbox). Mailder is far more robust (djb gets _some_ things right). And deals with simultaneous access and multiple updates (say, d-u, where I typically get new mail every few minutes) far better than mbox. I try to keep my mailboxes 1k messages, though with Maildir I've had 20k+ messages with few problems. While we're on the topic: I'm thinking of building an IMAP server out of a Via EPIA 5000 mobo (533MHz Eden CPU http://www.mini-itx.com/store/default.asp?c=2#p2), 512MB RAM 40GB HDD. Will this have the oomph to open large mail directories, etc, in a timely fashion? Only 2 people will be using it, but I get ~3600 spams per day. My IMAP (Courier) server is an Athlon 650 with 128 MB of RAM, and an old (probably ATA 66, or maybe even 33) 8 GB hard drive. With it, opening up my debian-user folder which generally gets up to about 2k messages before I start archiving, takes about 3 seconds in Evolution. In mutt, since AFAIK mutt doesn't cache the folders at all, it can take 10 - 15 seconds to open up at times. But once it's all opened up, everything works just fine. Thanks. Is there anything more to moving an IMAP server from NODE1 to NODE2, other than copying the config files over (and adding users, if need be)? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Note to LSU and Valdosta State students: India is not an Arab country! http://www.talonnews.com/news/2003/october/1009_college_dems_jind al.shtml -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 09:01, Ron Johnson wrote: -(major snippage) Is there anything more to moving an IMAP server from NODE1 to NODE2, other than copying the config files over (and adding users, if need be)? Umm, nope. If you can have both machine up @ once... you can use IMAP to copy the cruft from one to the other. I have done it using Evolution to go from POP3 with Local Storage to IMAPv4 with remote storage, as well as using Evolution to migrate from one IMAP server to another. And at one point to migrate from GroupWise to IMAP using the GWIA IMAP server to grab all the stuff out. IMAP... Know it, Use it, Love it. Either non-SSL or even self-signed SSL. It is a work of beauty... at least the Courier-IMAP server is. If I had to I'd now use it as my local storage. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Votre regard est plus penetrant qu'une stalagmite sertie dans son antre d'albatre signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
on Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 01:59:27PM -0400, Aaron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: No relation to the P.O. box chain :p I wonder what most people use to organize their local mail these days? I don't run a full-on MTA, I rely on fetchmail and procmail for the delivery of my messages, and they are stored (by default) in mbox format. Are there any comparative guides out there? What are the benefits of procmail/postfix/qmail/sendmail/fetchmail/etc.? The issue of mail in Linux is very complicated. What is the most efficient format for storing local mail? mbox, Maildir, postfix+mySQL, printed in hex to a lineprinter, read by Festival into an auto-loading cassette deck? I'm finding mbox to be very SLOW with many messages (understandably), but the process of switching to Maildir is complex enough that I want to be sure I'm making the right choice. maildir. Much better performance, more flexible, you can access messages as individual files, and more robust. Plus 'From' doesn't need to be escaped at start of line. Conversion: Use mutt. Set default mailbox type to maildir. Move your old mailbox directory from, say, Mail to Mail-old. Tag all messages in a mailbox and move 'em to the new mailbox -- it'll be created automatically. Probably automatable, but this works for the single-user case. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? STATE OF THE ART Expensive, loud and fragile. Occasionally functions for brief periods. In computer hardware terms, the art may be pottery - l'Inq http://www.theinquirer.net/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 01:36, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 01:59:27PM -0400, Aaron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: No relation to the P.O. box chain :p I wonder what most people use to organize their local mail these days? I don't run a full-on MTA, I rely on fetchmail and procmail for the delivery of my messages, and they are stored (by default) in mbox format. Are there any comparative guides out there? What are the benefits of procmail/postfix/qmail/sendmail/fetchmail/etc.? The issue of mail in Linux is very complicated. What is the most efficient format for storing local mail? mbox, Maildir, postfix+mySQL, printed in hex to a lineprinter, read by Festival into an auto-loading cassette deck? Line printer? Jeez, it's been 12 years since I've seen a line printer. Makes me all misty-eyed and nostalgic thinking about debugging VAX BASIC VS COBOL programs on green-bar printouts. I'm finding mbox to be very SLOW with many messages (understandably), but the process of switching to Maildir is complex enough that I want to be sure I'm making the right choice. maildir. Much better performance, more flexible, you can access messages as individual files, and more robust. Plus 'From' doesn't need to be escaped at start of line. Why better performance? If there's lots of messages, directory manipulation becomes very slow (at least on IDE drive). Conversion: Use mutt. Set default mailbox type to maildir. Move your old mailbox directory from, say, Mail to Mail-old. Tag all messages in a mailbox and move 'em to the new mailbox -- it'll be created automatically. Newer versions of Evo let you store each sub-folder in mbox, mh or maildir. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Our computers and their computers are the same color. The conversion should be no problem! Unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:53:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 01:36, Karsten M. Self wrote: maildir. Much better performance, more flexible, you can access messages as individual files, and more robust. Plus 'From' doesn't need to be escaped at start of line. Why better performance? If there's lots of messages, directory manipulation becomes very slow (at least on IDE drive). The lots of messages point occurs at around 10-20k messages. And even then on a decent computer it's ok. Plus if you have a filesystem that does hashing you never have that problem. The main gains from Maildir are: no locking any number of simultaneous programs accessing the mail without fear of corruption no rewriting the mailbox if you delete a message in the middle (computer goes down in the middle of this and you've lost some mail) Bijan -- Bijan Soleymani [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crasseux.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
on Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 03:53:08AM -0600, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 01:36, Karsten M. Self wrote: maildir. Much better performance, more flexible, you can access messages as individual files, and more robust. Plus 'From' doesn't need to be escaped at start of line. Why better performance? If there's lots of messages, directory manipulation becomes very slow (at least on IDE drive). Directory insertion/deletion (Maildir) vs. file insertion/deletion (mbox). Mailder is far more robust (djb gets _some_ things right). And deals with simultaneous access and multiple updates (say, d-u, where I typically get new mail every few minutes) far better than mbox. I try to keep my mailboxes 1k messages, though with Maildir I've had 20k+ messages with few problems. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Bush/Cheney '04: Four More Wars! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Mailboxes, etc.
No relation to the P.O. box chain :p I wonder what most people use to organize their local mail these days? I don't run a full-on MTA, I rely on fetchmail and procmail for the delivery of my messages, and they are stored (by default) in mbox format. Are there any comparative guides out there? What are the benefits of procmail/postfix/qmail/sendmail/fetchmail/etc.? The issue of mail in Linux is very complicated. What is the most efficient format for storing local mail? mbox, Maildir, postfix+mySQL, printed in hex to a lineprinter, read by Festival into an auto-loading cassette deck? I'm finding mbox to be very SLOW with many messages (understandably), but the process of switching to Maildir is complex enough that I want to be sure I'm making the right choice. Suggestions? -- Aaron Bieber - Graphic Design // Web Design http://www.fisheyemultimedia.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailboxes, etc.
le Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:59:27 -0400, Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] s'exprima en ces termes: No relation to the P.O. box chain :p I wonder what most people use to organize their local mail these days? I don't run a full-on MTA, I rely on fetchmail and procmail for the delivery of my messages, and they are stored (by default) in mbox format. Are there any comparative guides out there? What are the benefits of procmail/postfix/qmail/sendmail/fetchmail/etc.? Wait, procmail/postfix/qmail/sendmail/fetchmail can't be compared: - fetchmail gets mails from POP/IMAP servers, delivering it to your (local) MTA - postfix/qmail/sendmail are MTA: they dispatch mails to local users, or on Internet. - procmail sorts incoming mail for a local user to put it where the user wants. The issue of mail in Linux is very complicated. What is the most efficient format for storing local mail? mbox, Maildir, postfix+mySQL, printed in hex to a lineprinter, read by Festival into an auto-loading cassette deck? From my point of view, MH if far more efficient: you can add indexes to your MHs to speed up searches, purge MHs from olders mails, ... without using a MUA. Mbox is useful to take mails from a machine to another, and, well, festival is very useful if you are blinded ;) I'm finding mbox to be very SLOW with many messages (understandably), but the process of switching to Maildir is complex enough that I want to be sure I'm making the right choice. You can find a tool here: http://www.gerg.ca/hacks/mb2md for mbox-maildir, and at Sylpheed's homepage: http://sylpheed-claws.sourceforge.net/tools/sylpheed-convert_mbox.tar.gz for mbox-MH and http://sylpheed-claws.sourceforge.net/tools/sylpheed-maildir2sylpheed.tar.gz for maildir-MH. I heard KMail provided also a scipt to convert from maild to mbox. As you can see, that's easy. Want I went from Evolution to Sylpheed, I used some of this scripts over 1+ messages without losing one ! /N __ Nicolas Rueff [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rueff.tuxfamily.org +33 6 77 64 44 80 -- Unix soit qui mal y pense [Unix to him who evil thinks?] __ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes? [SOLVED]
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 08:20:27AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On 11:10 Mon 01 Sep?, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: | The mail must be new mail since the change. Also, don't forget you need to | add the path for the mailbox. So it would look something like this: | mailboxes ! +graig +IN-seneca +IN-uniwebdev | That must be it :) the '!' and the '+' beside the mailbox. I see the 'N' | now(after pressing tab), Thanks a lot :) It's a good idea to understand what each syntactical item means. The mailbox ! is your inbox. You can specify that with the 'spoolfile' parameter. It defaults to /var/mail/$USER (or something like that, which is often correct on a unix system). The + (or =, which I tend to use) means start the path with the 'folder' paramter (often set to ~/Mail or something like that) and look for the mailbox there. -D -- ...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver. --Daniel Pead http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes?
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:08:24 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Hi there :) Mutt is working fine under fetchmail/procmail/nbsmtp, but it bothers me not being able to find any indications of new email on each mailbox I have. All I see is some kind of filesize for the mailbox beside each mailbox, I can't just memorize it's size and compare whether I have new mail on that mailbox or not it's too inconvenient for me :( especially if I have multiple mailboxes... The help command doesn't have much info about this... anyone know how to do this? Many thanks for reading this.. Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The help command doesn't have much info about this... anyone know how to do this? Many thanks for reading this.. man 5 muttrc. Look for mailboxes - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/UxOhUzgNqloQMwcRAmnhAKDJqDArzduPo2YeMRAdZLFCM+O8igCeIRX4 D4srR5KhgwW8+DbM3DD3n54= =Pex9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes?
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mutt is working fine under fetchmail/procmail/nbsmtp, but it bothers me not being able to find any indications of new email on each mailbox I have. All I see is some kind of filesize for the mailbox beside each mailbox, I can't just memorize it's size and compare whether I have new mail on that mailbox or not it's too inconvenient for me :( especially if I have multiple mailboxes... set mailboxes = foo bar baz ... Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes?
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: man 5 muttrc. Look for mailboxes After you make the entries in .muttrc with mailboxes, you can type 'c' to change mailboxes and you will get the name of the next mailbox in the list that has mail. If use the TAB key after 'c' you will get a list of the mailboxes and an 'N' will be there for those which have new mail. Anita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes?
On 07:28 Mon 01 Sep?, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In linux.debian.user, you wrote: man 5 muttrc. Look for mailboxes After you make the entries in .muttrc with mailboxes, you can type 'c' to change mailboxes and you will get the name of the next mailbox in the list that has mail. If use the TAB key after 'c' you will get a list of the mailboxes and an 'N' will be there for those which have new mail. Anita I already edited my .muttrc(included all mailbox entries) and have it displayed on the mutt browser window, where'd you get the 'N'?? that's what I'd like to know ... cause I have no fields on the browser for new mail :( 'browser_format' in .muttrc doesn't seem to work ... regards, Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes?
[ your clock goes wrong ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I've already setup that one on .muttrc: set folder = $HOME/MuttMail mailboxes = compsci-digest mailboxes = justlinux mailboxes = ph-linux-newbie mailboxes = zdnet-html mailboxes = friends mailboxes = spam mailboxes = html mailboxes = duplicates mailboxes = default mailboxes = sent mailboxes = keep from the mutt manual: 3.11. Defining mailboxes which receive mail Usage: [un]mailboxes [!]filename [ filename ... ] There isn't written anything or multiple entries and there is no = mentioned either... mailboxes compsci-digest justlinux . As I wrote in my reply... Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes?
from the mutt manual: 3.11. Defining mailboxes which receive mail Usage: [un]mailboxes [!]filename [ filename ... ] There isn't written anything or multiple entries and there is no = mentioned either... mailboxes compsci-digest justlinux . As I wrote in my reply... Ok, I've changed the mailbox entries on .muttrc... format looks the same :( Based on your replies it looks like I was misunderstood, sorry about that must be my bad English. What I'm actually looking for is the 'N' beside each mailbox, similar to the index window (each new mail gets a 'N') but how do I add this to the mailbox entries on the browser window? This'll make it easier to track down new mail on multiple mailboxes... btw, It looks like there's another way for doing this ... from the 'help for browser' I see a buffy-list and to execute this I need to press . ... it doesn't seem to work :( regards, Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes?
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:16:12AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've changed the mailbox entries on .muttrc... format looks the same :( Based on your replies it looks like I was misunderstood, sorry about that must be my bad English. The mail must be new mail since the change. Also, don't forget you need to add the path for the mailbox. So it would look something like this: mailboxes ! +graig +IN-seneca +IN-uniwebdev The order you put the list in is the order mutt will look through new mailboxes when you use c to open a new mailbox with fresh mail. emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes? [SOLVED]
On 11:10 Mon 01 Sep?, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:16:12AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've changed the mailbox entries on .muttrc... format looks the same :( Based on your replies it looks like I was misunderstood, sorry about that must be my bad English. The mail must be new mail since the change. Also, don't forget you need to add the path for the mailbox. So it would look something like this: mailboxes ! +graig +IN-seneca +IN-uniwebdev The order you put the list in is the order mutt will look through new mailboxes when you use c to open a new mailbox with fresh mail. emma That must be it :) the '!' and the '+' beside the mailbox. I see the 'N' now(after pressing tab), Thanks a lot :) Cheers! Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Automatic Cyrus mailboxes creation with Exim
Hello all, I've been setting up a mail server using totally virtual users stored in LDAP, the email servers are Exim and Cyrus IMAP/POP3. The server user accounts are to be managed by non Linux users and myself using LDAP Explorer/Browser and GQ, it is estimated that there will be at least 300 user accounts to be set up. I've been thinking that instead of manually creating each mailbox, that I could have the system create the mailbox when the first mail was sent to the box. Has anyone seen a script or web page that describes how to do this? TIA Bill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailboxes y mutt
Me he pasado a mutt hace poco y me ha gustado bastante, aunque aun tengo que pulir algunas cosillas para que me quede a mi gusto. Una de esas cosas es la siguiente y espero que me podais ayudar. Quiero que en la lista de mailboxes (teclas - c ?) me aparezca, si es posible, el numero de mensajes nuevos de cada buzon. Lo que me muestra actualmente es similar a la salida de un 'ls -l' y no me aclaro en que buzon tengo mensajes nuevos. Tengo mas de diez buzones y es un poco lioso a la hora de revisar el correo. --
Re: mailboxes y mutt
* Pablo Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-11 21:43 (CET)] Lo que me muestra actualmente es similar a la salida de un 'ls -l' y no me aclaro en que buzon tengo mensajes nuevos. Tengo mas de diez buzones y es un poco lioso a la hora de revisar el correo. Cuando tengas más de 75 será peor, te lo aseguro :) Mira en la documentación de mutt, el comando mailboxes, y usa c-tab-tab, a ver... Mutt te informará de que ficheros tienen mail nuevo, sin embargo no te mostrará cuantos, ya que eso llevaría mucho tiempo (tendria que analizar por completo cada fichero, para mostrar la lista). Yo uso este comando: mailboxes `find ~/mail -type f|grep -v /\.|grep -v trash|xargs` pero empieza probando con: mailboxes `find ~/mail -type f|xargs` -- Rafael Gawenda 2:346/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered LiNUX user #93375 Si los hombres se limitaran a hablar solamente de lo que entienden, apenas hablarían (Arturo Graff) pgpZIC85Egr9E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
--On Monday, October 14, 2002 10:33:22 -0500 Keith G. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed that it looks like the POP3 functionality has been integrated into the latest squirrelmail (that is why one of the plugins is marked obsolete), but the documentation on that is extremely sparse. Some time, I am going to play with it... All the pop3 mailfetch 'plugin' on squirrelmail does is logs into a pop3 server and downloads the messages into an imap folder. I have a few users who quite like the functionality of it. Regards, Sid -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
Andy Saxena wrote: On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 09:23:25AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: Andy Saxena wrote: I don't think Squirrelmail allows access to POP mailboxes. Check out squirrelmail's web page. Look at the plugins. Thanks for the pointer, but I don't see any plug-ins that allow POP access without downloading it in some way. I looked at the descriptions of Mail Fetch and Mail Fetchmail. An ideal situation would be being able to see the important message headers like From: and Subject: and then being able to download the message body by selecting a particular message; sort of like pop3browser. Yeah, you're right, I see nothing that does that. I could be wrong, but I think the fundamental idea of Squirrelmail is IMAP access (consider the authentication procedure, for example). Besides, Squirrelmail doesn't provide any way to enter the email server information, username and password. I could've overlooked some plug-in that does this too :-}. I am certain that you did. Use the source, Luke. :-) I just noticed that it looks like the POP3 functionality has been integrated into the latest squirrelmail (that is why one of the plugins is marked obsolete), but the documentation on that is extremely sparse. Some time, I am going to play with it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can we create saparate mailboxes in Evolution like in mozilla ?
I am using mozilla mail and I have created three saparate POP3 accounts and each has its own Inbox where the mails are placed. In other words it has a saparate folder tree for each account. I tried to use Evolution and found that if I create more then one POP3 account in it, it makes only one Inbox folder and all the mails from all three POP servers are placed in the same folder (Inbox). Is it possible to have saparate Inbox folder for each account in Evolution? Thanks J S Sahambi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:03:05AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: Andy Saxena wrote: I am a happy squirrelmail user, but I think the above solution is an elegant solution for a large user base. It's low-maintenance and hassle-free. Apparently, there's a squirrelmail plugin that does fetchmail. Seems to me that *might* fill in the missing piece that mail2web is doing for you: letting the users maintain the retrieval process. I don't think Squirrelmail allows access to POP mailboxes. -Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
Andy Saxena wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:03:05AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: Andy Saxena wrote: I am a happy squirrelmail user, but I think the above solution is an elegant solution for a large user base. It's low-maintenance and hassle-free. Apparently, there's a squirrelmail plugin that does fetchmail. Seems to me that *might* fill in the missing piece that mail2web is doing for you: letting the users maintain the retrieval process. I don't think Squirrelmail allows access to POP mailboxes. Check out squirrelmail's web page. Look at the plugins. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
Andy Saxena wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:33:29PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I actually do all this, too (except the squirrelmail part -- I just use mail2web with the IMAP options for web access). It *is* a beautiful setup -- can't recommend it highly enough! If you have no trouble trusting strangers with your personal email, I guess this would work. mail2web is a pretty cool idea, though. I wonder if there's open sourced software that does the same thing. I am a happy squirrelmail user, but I think the above solution is an elegant solution for a large user base. It's low-maintenance and hassle-free. Apparently, there's a squirrelmail plugin that does fetchmail. Seems to me that *might* fill in the missing piece that mail2web is doing for you: letting the users maintain the retrieval process. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: [how to make sure no virii/spam does get in] Been there, done that. There is no virus coming in anymore. But there MAY be infected mails lying inside the fortress. That's the problem. Ragards, Terje __ Se den nye Yahoo! Mail på http://no.yahoo.com/ Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Has anybody tried clamscan yet ? After I installed it, together with oavupdate, it doesn't seem to work. oav-update retrieves the latest virus definitions from the net, but clamscan doesn't seem to like that file. For example, when I execute 'clamscan -d /var/lib/oav-update/viruses.db', I get 'ERROR: hex2int() translation problem (69). ERROR: Can't initialize virus database' And ofcourse, I can't find that 69 error code anywhere... I can confirm that. I also tried to compile clamav-0.50 from source, since debians' clamav-0.24 is quite old. Same 69er message, but then followed by ERROR: Malformed database Greetings, Terje __ Se den nye Yahoo! Mail på http://no.yahoo.com/ Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 01:30:25AM +0200, D. J. Bolderman wrote: On Tue, 08 Oct 2002, Gerald Livingston wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Terje Fåberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't investigated any further than checking apt-cache show clamav but you may want to check it out. Says it scans archives etc. for virii so I'm assuming it is something you can run against the files in a filesystem (maildir). I have courier imap set up here. If cyrus buries its mail in a special format then I don't know if this will work. Has anybody tried clamscan yet ? After I installed it, together with oavupdate, it doesn't seem to work. oav-update retrieves the latest virus definitions from the net, but clamscan doesn't seem to like that file. For example, when I execute 'clamscan -d /var/lib/oav-update/viruses.db', I get 'ERROR: hex2int() translation problem (69). ERROR: Can't initialize virus database' And ofcourse, I can't find that 69 error code anywhere... try 'freshclam'. It is included in the clamav package, and downloads virus signatures from the clamav author (not exactly the same as the oav ones). They recognize at least klez and bugbear. Frank Greetz, Dick -- D.J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
On Wed, 09 Oct 2002, Frank Gevaerts wrote: Has anybody tried clamscan yet ? After I installed it, together with oavupdate, it doesn't seem to work. oav-update retrieves the latest virus definitions from the net, but clamscan doesn't seem to like that file. For example, when I execute 'clamscan -d /var/lib/oav-update/viruses.db', I get 'ERROR: hex2int() translation problem (69). ERROR: Can't initialize virus database' And ofcourse, I can't find that 69 error code anywhere... try 'freshclam'. It is included in the clamav package, and downloads virus signatures from the clamav author (not exactly the same as the oav ones). They recognize at least klez and bugbear. Frank, thanks for the tip: those signatures work and I'm able to scan my disks. However, I'm still getting the translation error. Thanks, Dick msg06216/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:33:29PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: I actually do all this, too (except the squirrelmail part -- I just use mail2web with the IMAP options for web access). It *is* a beautiful setup -- can't recommend it highly enough! If you have no trouble trusting strangers with your personal email, I guess this would work. mail2web is a pretty cool idea, though. I wonder if there's open sourced software that does the same thing. I am a happy squirrelmail user, but I think the above solution is an elegant solution for a large user base. It's low-maintenance and hassle-free. -Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
Hi, I have a nice eMail server here, which servers mail to about ten users using cyrus-imapd. Amavis is scanning all incoming and outgoing mail for over about a year now. I've been quite happy with this until yesterday, when one user encountered quite an old mail containing the famous love letter. The beast didn't really spread, but I'm a little bit concerned about other potentially dangerous viruses within my system. I tried different scanners on imap boxes containing the love letter, but no one of these was able to find the (base64-)encoded virus in the mail. And that's where I'm standing right now: I have a few gigabytes of emails and no clue whether there are any virii in them. And neither do I have a clue how to solve this problem. Any ideas? Ha det godt, Terje __ Se den nye Yahoo! Mail på http://no.yahoo.com/ Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Terje Fåberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a nice eMail server here, which servers mail to about ten users using cyrus-imapd. Amavis is scanning all incoming and outgoing mail for over about a year now. I've been quite happy with this until yesterday, when one user encountered quite an old mail containing the famous love letter. The beast didn't really spread, but I'm a little bit concerned about other potentially dangerous viruses within my system. I tried different scanners on imap boxes containing the love letter, but no one of these was able to find the (base64-)encoded virus in the mail. And that's where I'm standing right now: I have a few gigabytes of emails and no clue whether there are any virii in them. And neither do I have a clue how to solve this problem. Any ideas? Ha det godt, Terje I haven't investigated any further than checking apt-cache show clamav but you may want to check it out. Says it scans archives etc. for virii so I'm assuming it is something you can run against the files in a filesystem (maildir). I have courier imap set up here. If cyrus buries its mail in a special format then I don't know if this will work. G -- gvl2 (Gerald) AirBall the Rolling Basket Case (1969 Standard Beetle) LifeSaver (1974 Bay Window Bus) http://www.phorce1.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
On Tue, 08 Oct 2002, Gerald Livingston wrote: clamav but you may want to check it out. Says it scans archives etc. for virii so I'm assuming it is something you can run against the files in a filesystem (maildir). I have courier imap set up here. If cyrus buries its mail in a special format then I don't know if this will work. It will find the viruses, however you will have to rebuild any mailboxes it kill files inside of. You will also need to fix the quotas of said mailboxes... It would be nice to have a content scanner hook for IMAP uploads to Cyrus, I suppose. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
hi ya -- if you do NOT have root access to the pop mail server nor the smtp server ... feel free to ignore my rants - you're stuck with doing things after the fact but, assuming you have control of the smtp and pop mail server - it can be the same or different machines -- you should first check for incoming spam... and reject the spam and its viruses - we'll leave the definition of spam for another day -- than check that incoming emails for virus and again reject the incoming mail... whether legit or not -- use sendmail, exim, and or your fav mta to do the above -- at this point above... the virus has NOT yet been received in your mailboxes... -- cleaning up the mailboxes, after you have received the junk mail and/or legit mail w/ virus is too late ( aka filters ) -- senders of legit emails w/ viruses would be happy to be notified that their machine is sending out virus with their legit emails ... and will happily try to fix it before the virus wakes up and does something worst antispam stuff http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/antispam.gwif.html antivirus stuff http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Mail/antivirus.gwif.html c ya alvin On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Terje Fåberg wrote: Hi, I have a nice eMail server here, which servers mail to about ten users using cyrus-imapd. Amavis is scanning all incoming and outgoing mail for over about a year now. I've been quite happy with this until yesterday, when one user encountered quite an old mail containing the famous love letter. The beast didn't really spread, but I'm a little bit concerned about other potentially dangerous viruses within my system. I tried different scanners on imap boxes containing the love letter, but no one of these was able to find the (base64-)encoded virus in the mail. And that's where I'm standing right now: I have a few gigabytes of emails and no clue whether there are any virii in them. And neither do I have a clue how to solve this problem. Any ideas? Ha det godt, Terje __ Se den nye Yahoo! Mail på http://no.yahoo.com/ Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to virus-check cyrus-imap mailboxes
On Tue, 08 Oct 2002, Gerald Livingston wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Terje Fåberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't investigated any further than checking apt-cache show clamav but you may want to check it out. Says it scans archives etc. for virii so I'm assuming it is something you can run against the files in a filesystem (maildir). I have courier imap set up here. If cyrus buries its mail in a special format then I don't know if this will work. Has anybody tried clamscan yet ? After I installed it, together with oavupdate, it doesn't seem to work. oav-update retrieves the latest virus definitions from the net, but clamscan doesn't seem to like that file. For example, when I execute 'clamscan -d /var/lib/oav-update/viruses.db', I get 'ERROR: hex2int() translation problem (69). ERROR: Can't initialize virus database' And ofcourse, I can't find that 69 error code anywhere... Greetz, Dick -- D.J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg06053/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
-- David P James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Wednesday, 02 October 2002, 11:05 PM -0400): I've recently started using mutt remotely when I'm on campus to check for email that Mozilla is automatically downloading to my Debian box at home Not to be contrary, but why are you having Mozilla do the downloading? Fetchmail is designed for this... and once it has retrieved the mail for you, you could have any of your mail clients look at it directly on your machine easily, as it would be in a standard place. Just a thought. The 'problem' is that when mutt launches it automatically uses the mbox file at /var/mail/username. There is such a file on my system but little email ever comes its way, hence I have no interest in checking it. What I would like is to have Mutt default to opening up Mozilla's mbox at ~/.mozilla/default/.slt/Mail/pop.my.isp/Inbox . I can force mutt to open it by using the -f (and, for safety's sake, -R) parameter with that long filename, but I would prefer a quicker and more permanent solution. I've also noticed that there is no .mutt or the like file or directory in my home directory, which is somewhat perplexing. I believe somebody else already noted this, but .muttrc is not created on its own; you have to create your own. When you do (simply use your favorite editor -- likely VIM if you're using mutt! -- and create a ~/.muttrc file), you'll need a line such as: set folder=/path/to/spoolfile Once this is in there, you won't need to use the -f switch. I highly suggest reading the mutt manual; it's included with the Debian distro at /usr/share/doc/mutt/html/manual.html. And also look into fetchmail and procmail -- they are excellent tools for grabbing mail from remote locations and delivering it to specific files/directories. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
-- Keith G. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Thursday, 03 October 2002, 11:08 AM -0500): Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: -- David P James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Wednesday, 02 October 2002, 11:05 PM -0400): I've recently started using mutt remotely when I'm on campus to check for email that Mozilla is automatically downloading to my Debian box at home Not to be contrary, but why are you having Mozilla do the downloading? Fetchmail is designed for this... and once it has retrieved the mail for you, you could have any of your mail clients look at it directly on your machine easily, as it would be in a standard place. And to increase the beauty, use some IMAP server to serve up the fetchmail'ed messages. That way, remote access from anywhere with all kinds of mail clients becomes possible, along with a consistent and safe view of all your folders. courier w/ssl (forget the package name) is a beautiful way to go. Oh, yes, you could also then use squirrelmail + apache-ssl so that you'd have web access from anywhere. Like Matthew said, just a thought. I actually do all this, too (except the squirrelmail part -- I just use mail2web with the IMAP options for web access). It *is* a beautiful setup -- can't recommend it highly enough! -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
Matthew Weier O'Phinney was roused into action on 10/03/02 09:30 and wrote: -- David P James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Wednesday, 02 October 2002, 11:05 PM -0400): I've recently started using mutt remotely when I'm on campus to check for email that Mozilla is automatically downloading to my Debian box at home Not to be contrary, but why are you having Mozilla do the downloading? Fetchmail is designed for this... and once it has retrieved the mail for you, you could have any of your mail clients look at it directly on your machine easily, as it would be in a standard place. Because; (1) It hadn't occurred to me to do that, and (2) It kind of depends on what happens once the file is on the computer. Mozilla can be told to place its mail file anywhere, but it doesn't appear to have the option (like Mutt or to some degree Kmail) of 'directly' reading a mailfile - Mozilla is set up to download and then read, not to read only. That's not to say that Mozilla's mail file can't be modified by something other than itself, it can - you just don't want to be doing that when Mozilla is actually running (say, when I'm home, which would mean that I'd have to shut off fetchmail whenever Mozilla Mail starts up). It would be nice if Moz could be told to read mbox files directly, but it can't. I'd even consider switching away from Moz, but I have yet to find any other [GUI] mail client that handles the concept of sub-folders as Moz does, or that can sort email by 'Order Received' rather than simply by date. My long-term hope is that Moz gets improved or that Minotaur will make up for Moz's deficiencies (mailing list handling, as another example). On the other hand, if fetchmail downloads it to somewhere in /var/mail and I manage to set up a server for other mail clients to download from, would that not result in having an mbox file in multiple places, thereby wasting space? (ie wherever fetchmail puts it *and* also in the usual Mozilla location when Moz downloads it?). I suppose I could still tell Mozilla to delete the file from the server (eg, /var/mail), but then this seems to be a lot of extra file swapping, configuring as well as installing another programor two for what would appear to be no real gain. As it is now, Mozilla downloads mail and anything else can read it wherever Mozilla puts it. I just need to be able to configure Mutt to do that, which I have now been able to do. I believe somebody else already noted this, but .muttrc is not created on its own; you have to create your own. When you do (simply use your favorite editor -- likely VIM if you're using mutt! -- and create a ~/.muttrc file), you'll need a line such as: set folder=/path/to/spoolfile Once this is in there, you won't need to use the -f switch. I highly suggest reading the mutt manual; it's included with the Debian distro at /usr/share/doc/mutt/html/manual.html. And also look into fetchmail and procmail -- they are excellent tools for grabbing mail from remote locations and delivering it to specific files/directories. I had looked at the manual and the man page but I hadn't figured out that Mutt doesn't create a .muttrc file when first invoked. I saw references to it but I'm a little bit leary of creating a file that, from the documentation, *sounds* as if it ought to be there already. Anyway, problem solved now. Thanks, -- David P. James 4th Year Economics Student Queen's University Kingston, Ontario http://members.rogers.com/dpjames/ The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe. -Dr. Leonard McCoy, Star Trek IV -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
-- David P James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Thursday, 03 October 2002, 05:27 PM -0400): Matthew Weier O'Phinney was roused into action on 10/03/02 09:30 and wrote: -- David P James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Wednesday, 02 October 2002, 11:05 PM -0400): Not to be contrary, but why are you having Mozilla do the downloading? Fetchmail is designed for this... and once it has retrieved the mail for you, you could have any of your mail clients look at it directly on your machine easily, as it would be in a standard place. Because; (1) It hadn't occurred to me to do that, and (2) It kind of depends on what happens once the file is on the computer. Mozilla can be told to place its mail file anywhere, but it doesn't appear to have the option (like Mutt or to some degree Kmail) of 'directly' reading a mailfile - Mozilla is set up to download and then read, not to read only. That's not to say that Mozilla's mail file can't be modified by something other than itself, it can - you just don't want to be doing that when Mozilla is actually running (say, when I'm home, which would mean that I'd have to shut off fetchmail whenever Mozilla Mail starts up). It would be nice if Moz could be told to read mbox files directly, but it can't. I'd even consider switching away from Moz, but I have yet to find any other [GUI] mail client that handles the concept of sub-folders as Moz does, or that can sort email by 'Order Received' rather than simply by date. My long-term hope is that Moz gets improved or that Minotaur will make up for Moz's deficiencies (mailing list handling, as another example). If I remember correctly, though, Mozilla can use IMAP (and I do, because I use it on my Windows box when I need to read mail) -- which means that if you use it as an IMAP mail reader, it will leave the mail where it's delivered. You might also want to look into Evolution -- I'd been using Mozilla for mail for awhile until Evolution matured, and found it to be a good GUI mail client. It's standards compliant, which means that it will read mail wherever it is, thus leaving it in a central location for other mail clients to read it. On the other hand, if fetchmail downloads it to somewhere in /var/mail and I manage to set up a server for other mail clients to download from, would that not result in having an mbox file in multiple places, thereby wasting space? (ie wherever fetchmail puts it *and* also in the usual Mozilla location when Moz downloads it?). I suppose I could still tell Mozilla to delete the file from the server (eg, /var/mail), but then this seems to be a lot of extra file swapping, configuring as well as installing another programor two for what would appear to be no real gain. Actually, if you set up your mail server to deliver to Maildir (either in the MTA's configuration or through procmail, which is what you'd do if you were to set up an IMAP server), it would go to your user account's ~/Maildir/ directory, which would act kind of like your spool. From there, you could use clients like Mozilla, which semi-require their own mail directory formats, to contact the IMAP server, and other clients, such as mutt, kmail, etc, to simply use the Maildir format (these other clients could also use the IMAP protocol, as then the configuration would be standard). As it is now, Mozilla downloads mail and anything else can read it wherever Mozilla puts it. I just need to be able to configure Mutt to do that, which I have now been able to do. Of course, these are just suggestions -- if you've got it working, and it works the way you want it to -- good. I offer these suggestions as somebody who fiddled around with email clients for years, always having to change formats and mail spool locations whenever I found a new one that used a slightly different storage format. Standards exist to make such fiddling unnecessary -- which is why a fetchmail/procmail/IMAP setup makes a lot of sense if you'll be using multiple clients to read your mail. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt and mailboxes
* David P James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021002 20:05]: interest in checking it. What I would like is to have Mutt default to opening up Mozilla's mbox at ~/.mozilla/default/.slt/Mail/pop.my.isp/Inbox . I can force mutt To specify your spoolfile, put set spoolfile=~/.mozilla/... in your .muttrc . Alternatively, set your $MAIL environment variable in your shell's startup scripts. solution. I've also noticed that there is no .mutt or the like file or directory in my home directory, which is somewhat perplexing. Mutt will read a .muttrc if you write one, but it won't write one on its own. Further places to look for help are the mutt manual (in /usr/share/doc/mutt, or on the web), and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives, the mutt homepage, Sven Guckes' mutt site, and (of course) google. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- http://www.aclu.org/It's all about Freedom. msg04936/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Moving mailboxes in Postfix
nate wrote: Curtis Vaughan said: Can anyone tell me if it's possible to move mailboxes from 1 postfix server to another? Provided, of course, that it's not a total pain in the ass to do. Basically, I have users on a virtual domain on one Postfix Server that I want to move to a new server where they will be the primary domain. I may be missing something, but from what I know, postfix doesn't store mail(other then the mail queue), if your referring to moving a mail account from 1 system to another, and how easy it is, that entirely depends upon the kind of mail system your using. I use cyrus and it's not too difficult to move from one system to another, though its not as simple as just copy the files over nate Ok, I have a SuSe email server III set up. Also, if you are using IMAP then the mail is stored in respective folders of the user on the server until the user deletes it. While for POP3 it remains on the server until the user pulls it down or deletes it, depending on how it's set up for the user. So, somehow it is, in fact, storing messages in some manner. I would really like to move some users off this server over to a strictly Debian Postfix solution. Curtis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Telneting in I get: +OK oceanica Cyrus POP3 v2.0.16 server ready And I intend to use Postfix on the new system. And I have all passwords, but as you say that wouldn't matter as I can do basically whatever I want with their accounts. er, i shoulda been more clear. When I mean mail system I meant what software, that is, UW IMAP? Cyrus ? Courier? I'm not famillar with SuSE's email server software, also what software do you plan to use on the debian side? And do you have the passwords for those users so you can migrate the authentication?(or you could just assign them new ones and tell them). A last resort method, a method I used for migrating from UW IMAP to Cyrus almost 2 years ago at my company was to bring up the cyrus server and have users copy/move the mail from the old server to the new server via their IMAP clients since there was not a solid migration system that I could trust to do the migration offline. So: 1) what email server software does SusE use?(one way to try to find out is to telnet to ports 110 and 143 and look at the banner the software sends out)2) what email server software(UW IMAP, Courier, Postfix, other?) do you plan to use on the debian system? nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving mailboxes in Postfix
Curtis Vaughan said: Telneting in I get: +OK oceanica Cyrus POP3 v2.0.16 server ready And I intend to use Postfix on the new system. And I have all passwords, but as you say that wouldn't matter as I can do basically whatever I want with their accounts. ok cyrus. I have not worked with cyrus 2.x, and debian stable uses cyrus 1.5.x.. I can describe the process for migrating from cyrus 1.5.x to cyrus 1.5.x on another system, I don't know if the process is differnet for going from 2.x to 1.5 (or if its even possible, you may need to ocpy mail using the IMAP clients instead of offline) on new server: install cyrus-imapd cyrus-pop3d cyrus-admin edit /etc/imapd.conf and assign a user to the admin line to administrate the mail system run: cyradm localhost (input the username and password for the admin account specified in imapd.conf) cm user.johnb where johnb is the login account. on the old server I would go to /var/spool/cyrus/mail/user and tar up the johnb account: tar -cvf /tmp/johnb.tar johnd/ copy johnb.tar to /var/spool/cyrus/mail/user on the new system and extract it: tar -xvf johnb.tar remove johnd.tar: rm johnb.tar chown the files so they are owned by user cyrus group mail: chown -R cyrus.mail johnd/ have cyrus recontstruct everything: su - cyrus /usr/sbin/reconstruct -m # this rebuilds the mailboxes file /usr/sbin/reconstruct -r user.johnb # this rebuilds the account you should be able to login as johnb(provided you have an account on the system, cyrus mail accounts and system accounts are SEPERATE) and see the email for that user. for postfix put: mailbox_transport = cyrus in /etc/postfix/main.cf and restart postfix(postfix reload) that will tell postfix to deliver incoming mail to the cyrus mail system. this may not work going from cyrus 2.x to 1.5 though, since I've never used 2.x. many things in cyrus 2.x are not supported in 1.5, such as SASL, server side filtering, and possibly more. cyrus 2 is available in unstable(not yet in testing I don't think), so I would strongly reccomend against using it in a production enviornemnt at this point. cyrus 1.5 has worked well for me on about half dozen servers using both postfix and sendmail. good luck nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt + verschiedene Mailboxes
Hallo Sven, * Sven Salzwedel schrieb [13-09-02 05:28]: Christian Schmidt schrieb am Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 11:16:49PM +0200: Sven Salzwedel wrote on 12.09.2002: ich habe mehrere Mailboxes wo neue mails reinkommen, also z.B. /var/mail/user und ~/Mail/list-deb-de ... was mich jedoch stört, ist dass als standard mailbox beim starten von Mutt /var/mail/user genommen wird, auch wenn sie leer is. Kann ich Mutt so konfigurieren dass beim start in eine andere mailbox gewechselt wird, wenn /var/mail/user leer ist? wenn ja, any hints? ;) Du koenntest Dir auch einen Alias auf mutt legen, der dann immer mutt -y aufruft... Oder, wenn du mutt nur starten willst, wenn auch neue Mails da sind, direkt mit mutt -Z aufrufen, dann wird automtisch in eine Mailbox mit neuen Mails gewechselt. Falls keine neuen Mails da sind, wird mutt jedoch nicht gestartet. Gruss Udo -- Aus Murphy's Gesetzen: Das Backup, das du gerade gemacht hast, wirst du nie brauchen. msg18648/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mutt + verschiedene Mailboxes
Hallo Liste, ich habe mehrere Mailboxes wo neue mails reinkommen, also z.B. /var/mail/user und ~/Mail/list-deb-de ... was mich jedoch stört, ist dass als standard mailbox beim starten von Mutt /var/mail/user genommen wird, auch wenn sie leer is. Kann ich Mutt so konfigurieren dass beim start in eine andere mailbox gewechselt wird, wenn /var/mail/user leer ist? wenn ja, any hints? ;) gruß -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mutt + verschiedene Mailboxes
* Sven Salzwedel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-09-02 20:56]: ich habe mehrere Mailboxes wo neue mails reinkommen, also z.B. /var/mail/user und ~/Mail/list-deb-de ... was mich jedoch stört, ist dass als standard mailbox beim starten von Mutt /var/mail/user genommen wird, auch wenn sie leer is. Kann ich Mutt so konfigurieren dass beim start in eine andere mailbox gewechselt wird, wenn /var/mail/user leer ist? wenn ja, any hints? ;) Indem du mutt -y aufrufst. $man mutt -yselect a mailbox specified in your `mailboxes' list oder aber -Zopen the first folder with new message, exit immediately if none $mailboxes musst du in deiner .muttrc definieren, bei mir sieht das so aus: mailboxes `find /home/jgs/Mail -type f -print | grep -v saved |xargs` das zeigt mir nach mutt -y eine Übersicht aller Mailboxen, wobei die mit neuer Mail mit einem N gekenzeichnet sind. HTH Jens -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mutt + verschiedene Mailboxes
Sven Salzwedel wrote on 12.09.2002: ich habe mehrere Mailboxes wo neue mails reinkommen, also z.B. /var/mail/user und ~/Mail/list-deb-de ... was mich jedoch stört, ist dass als standard mailbox beim starten von Mutt /var/mail/user genommen wird, auch wenn sie leer is. Kann ich Mutt so konfigurieren dass beim start in eine andere mailbox gewechselt wird, wenn /var/mail/user leer ist? wenn ja, any hints? ;) Hast Du die uebrigen Mailboxen mit dem mailboxes-Kommando in die .muttrc eingetragen? Du koenntest Dir auch einen Alias auf mutt legen, der dann immer mutt -y aufruft... Gruss, Christian -- Christian Schmidt | Germany | [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x4BB05393 -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mutt + verschiedene Mailboxes
Christian Schmidt schrieb am Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 11:16:49PM +0200: Sven Salzwedel wrote on 12.09.2002: ich habe mehrere Mailboxes wo neue mails reinkommen, also z.B. /var/mail/user und ~/Mail/list-deb-de ... was mich jedoch stört, ist dass als standard mailbox beim starten von Mutt /var/mail/user genommen wird, auch wenn sie leer is. Kann ich Mutt so konfigurieren dass beim start in eine andere mailbox gewechselt wird, wenn /var/mail/user leer ist? wenn ja, any hints? ;) Hast Du die uebrigen Mailboxen mit dem mailboxes-Kommando in die .muttrc eingetragen? Du koenntest Dir auch einen Alias auf mutt legen, der dann immer mutt -y aufruft... Gruss, Christian -- Christian Schmidt | Germany | [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x4BB05393 danke euch beiden ;) , mailboxes hab ich drin und alias ist jetzt auch gesetzt, das ist sogar noch eine komfortablere Lösung als ich wollte. gruß -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mutt + verschiedene Mailboxes
Sven Salzwedel schrieb: Hallo Liste, ich habe mehrere Mailboxes wo neue mails reinkommen, also z.B. /var/mail/user und ~/Mail/list-deb-de ... was mich jedoch stört, ist dass als standard mailbox beim starten von Mutt /var/mail/user genommen wird, auch wenn sie leer is. Kann ich Mutt so konfigurieren dass beim start in eine andere mailbox gewechselt wird, wenn /var/mail/user leer ist? wenn ja, any hints? ;) Vielleicht hilft dir diese Info: Mailboxen angeben, die Nachrichten empfangen Benutzung: mailboxes [!]Dateiname [ Dateiname ... ] Mit diesem Befehl werden die Mailboxen definiert, in denen das System empfangene Nachrichten ablegt und die deshalb auf neue Nachrichten überprüft werden sollen. Standardmäßig wird in der Hauptstatuszeile angezeigt, wie viele dieser Mailboxen neue Nachrichten enthalten. Beim Wechsel der Mailbox kann man mit der Leertaste durch die Mailboxen blättern, die neue Nachrichten enthalten. Wenn man in einer Datei-Liste die Tabulator-Taste drückt, erscheint ein Menü, in dem die Dateien aufgeführt sind, die mit dem mailboxes Befehl angegeben wurden und in dem angezeigt wird, welche davon neue Nachrichten enthalten. Mutt startet automatisch in diesem Modus, wenn es von der Kommandozeile aus mit der -y Option aufgerufen wurde. Anmerkung: Neue Mail wird erkannt, indem für die Mailbox-Datei das letzte Zugriffsdatum mit dem Datum der letzten Änderung verglichen wird. Hilfsprogramme wie biff, frm und andere, die auf die Mailbox zugreifen, können (wenn sie die Zugriffszeit nicht zurücksetzen) daher dafür verantwortlich sein, daß Mutt nie neue Mail meldet. Anmerkung: Die Dateinamen im mailboxes Befehl werden bereits aufgelöst, wenn der Befehl ausgeführt wird. Wenn diese Namen also Kürzel (wie etwa ``='' and ``!'') enthalten, dann sollte jede Variablendefinition, die auf die Bedeutung dieser Zeichen Einfluß hat (etwa $folder und $spoolfile) vor dem mailboxes Befehl stehen. -- /// servus (..) - stefan oo0-\/-0oo--- http://www.sbsbavaria.de/ -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Mutt + verschiedene Mailboxes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 danke euch beiden ;) , mailboxes hab ich drin und alias ist jetzt auch gesetzt, das ist sogar noch eine komfortablere Lösung als ich wollte. noch komfortabler gehts damit: mailboxes `find /home/your_home_dir/Mail -type f -print | grep -v saved |xargs` damit brauchst du nicht jeden mailboxe eintrag haendisch durchfuehren, alle mailbox-files in ~/Mail werden automatisch in die Liste aufgenommen. greetinx christo - -- root@sis# shutdown -h now -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9gWli8ZgdQO2Zi7QRAkY4AJsFRiwe3MzgTUeO4oM/2hm4f8K0NQCaA69o FvsqrtPvT31dPCxKjdGYahY= =5pt0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
sincronizar mailboxes
Amigos, Tenho muitas maquinas que uso para pegar meus e-mails, e acontece que as vezes eu preciso de uma mensagem e nao a tenho porque ela esta em outra maquina. Uso o mutt nas maquinas sem X e o Sylpheed nas maquinas com X. Tenho a mesma estrutura de pastas e filtros para todas. Gostaria entao de saber como posso sincronizar, por exemplo, o arquivo mailbox debian-user, que contem as mensagens da lista, com o mesmo arquivo mailbox debian-user que esta em outra maquina. Isso e possivel? Nao gosto da opcao de deixar copia da mensagem no servidor, pois como, recebo muitas mensagens, minha caixa pode estourar. []'s -- Marcio de Araujo Benedito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux user 18636 (Debian Woody) Empresa de Informatica e Informacao do Municipio de Belo Horizonte - Prodabel S/A Projeto Internet Popular: http://www.pbh.gov.br/interpop ___ / Atomic batteries to power, turbines to speed. -- Robin, The Boy \ \ Wonder/ --- \ ^__^ \ (oo)\___ (__)\ )\/\ ||w | || || pgpcL2ibwwebP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Archiving of big mailboxes
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:53:25PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 21:46, Brenda J. Butler wrote: Sounds like he wants to keep the old mail, which is what I do. This is a nice tool that I have used for some time now: http://digilander.iol.it/yellowjester/archmbox/archmbox.html plug I've also written a tool that might help: it moves messages in mbox, MH or Maildir-format mailboxes that are older than the specified number of days to gzipped mbox-format mailboxes. It uses about 5 different methods to guess the delivery date of mail, which helps if you have mangled or non-existent Delivery-Date/Date headers. It also has a '--delete' option if you prefer to delete old mail rather than archive it. It uses lockfiles and flock() calls to play nicely with procmail and mail clients. It is designed to be run from your crontab and requires python version 2.0 or later. The website is here: http://archivemail.sf.net/ /plug -- paul at paulrodger dot com http://paulrodger.com/pgpkey.html 1024D/F0C363EF BC57 D4A4 AAB4 625F 61E8 D933 8F3D 04C5 F0C3 63EF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
