Re: It works! (was Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help)
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Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
On Tue, 20 May 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote: Then try to point Netscape (or telnet) to some digit location. I tried to ping from w95 using digit location. Ping to linux machine's IP gives reasonable results. The same with w95's pseudo IP address. However ping doesn't see any other machines in LAN (ping reported Request timing out). I think due to this reason DNS is not available. On the other side w95 has a corect idea about all addresses ( if winipcfg tell me truth ). Below I placed some info which you mentioned. Then, look in /var/log/massages (the last 20-30 lines,immediately after win95 connection to your server and after netscape fails). It was telnet but I think it doesn't matter. Do you see any clue here? I do not. May 21 02:20:11 crdlx2 kernel: PPP line discipline registered. May 21 02:20:11 crdlx2 kernel: registered device ppp0 May 21 02:20:11 crdlx2 pppd[268]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 May 21 02:20:11 crdlx2 pppd[268]: Using interface ppp0 May 21 02:20:11 crdlx2 pppd[268]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 May 21 02:20:14 crdlx2 pppd[268]: local IP address 194.67.208.105 May 21 02:20:14 crdlx2 pppd[268]: remote IP address 194.67.208.10 May 21 02:20:14 crdlx2 pppd[268]: found interface eth0 for proxy arp May 21 02:20:17 crdlx2 pppd[268]: CCP terminated at peer's request May 21 02:20:17 crdlx2 pppd[268]: Compression disabled by peer. May 21 02:35:40 crdlx2 pppd[268]: LCP terminated at peer's request May 21 02:35:43 crdlx2 pppd[268]: Connection terminated. May 21 02:35:43 crdlx2 pppd[268]: Exit. May 21 02:37:10 crdlx2 kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered You may also take a look in your /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/options.ttyS? files -- options in these files will also apply when pppd is started. Here is the list of settings from /etc/ppp/options. (I don't use the second file - options.ttyS?) - dns-addr 194.67.209.1 dns-addr 193.124.134.1 asyncmap 0 crtscts lock modem mru 542 -pap proxyarp lcp-echo-interval 30 lcp-echo-failure 4 --- Still hope to get any advice from debian user's community. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
Eugene Sevinian wrote: On Tue, 20 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: I think the difficulty is on the Win95 end at this point. When you bring up the connection from the Win95 end can you ping the IP of the Linux box (the IP for the dialup)? Ping to linux machine's IP gives reasonable results. The same with w95 pseudo IP address. However ping doesn't see any other machines in LAN. The result is: Request timing out. Request timing out. Request timing out. It seems DNS is not guilty at all. I also run winipcfg which proved that w95 recognized this stuff corectly. Ok, here's a question. Did you recompile your kernel or anything? If you did recompile, did you enable IP forwarding? I ask because it looks like the problem is that packets aren't getting past your linux box. Since you can ping the linux side, the link is just fine. If you have the same kernel which came with the dist. then I *think* it has IP forwarding enabled (I'm not sure about this, since I didn't compile that kernel myself). You may be able to discover if it's enabled by looking at some /proc/?? file, but I'm not too sure. Anyone else have a thought? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
Eugene Sevinian wrote: On Tue, 20 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: I think the difficulty is on the Win95 end at this point. When you bring up the connection from the Win95 end can you ping the IP of the Linux box (the IP for the dialup)? Ping to linux machine's IP gives reasonable results. The same with w95 pseudo IP address. However ping doesn't see any other machines in LAN. The result is: Request timing out. Request timing out. Request timing out. It seems DNS is not guilty at all. I also run winipcfg which proved that w95 recognized this stuff corectly. Ok, here's a question. Did you recompile your kernel or anything? If you did recompile, did you enable IP forwarding? I ask because it looks like the problem is that packets aren't getting past your linux box. Since you can ping the linux side, the link is just fine. If you have the same kernel which came with the dist. then I *think* it has IP forwarding enabled (I'm not sure about this, since I didn't compile that kernel myself). You may be able to discover if it's enabled by looking at some /proc/?? file, but I'm not too sure. Anyone else have a thought? I think if /proc/net/ip_forward exists, then it's enabled in the kernel. cat this file on my router shows: root# cat /proc/net/ip_forward IP firewall forward rules, default 4 IP forwarding is enabled on my machine (and it's a router for my LAN) so if your output is similar, then you should be enabled too. An easy way to check what's happening with IP traffic is tcpdump. This is an optional package which you will have to install separately if you haven't already done so. On the Linux box, run tcpdump -i eth0 on one screen and tcpdump -i ppp0 on another. Then, run a continuous ping from a client (your Win95 box) and see what happens on each screen. A big problem I once had that I first thought was forwarding was actually a routing problem. (I wasn't using IP_Masq.) ICMP (Pings) were coming in on eth0 and going out on the ppp0, but nothing was coming back. My ISP didn't have a route back to my client (which they said _was_ configured! I proved them wrong) (Note - this shouldn't be your problem *if* you're using IP_Masq. Later, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Edmondson Roper CA http://www.eroper.bc.ca -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
On Wed, 21 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Eugene Sevinian wrote: Ping to linux machine's IP gives reasonable results. The same with w95 pseudo IP address. However ping doesn't see any other machines in LAN. The result is: Request timing out. Ok, here's a question. Did you recompile your kernel or anything? If you did recompile, did you enable IP forwarding? You are RIGHT! It was disabled. The reason is - a lack of knowledge :-( Now I will recompile it and hope it will work. I ask because it looks like the problem is that packets aren't getting past your linux box. Since you can ping the linux side, the link is just fine. If you have the same kernel which came with the dist. then I *think* it has IP forwarding enabled (I'm not sure about this, since I didn't compile that kernel myself). You may be able to discover if it's enabled by looking at some /proc/?? file, but I'm not too sure. Anyone else have a thought? -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
It works! (was Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help)
Dear friends, Thanks a lot for your great help! This problem was solved due to your consistent assistance. Sincerly, Eugene On Wed, 21 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Eugene Sevinian wrote: On Wed, 21 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Eugene Sevinian wrote: Ping to linux machine's IP gives reasonable results. The same with w95 pseudo IP address. However ping doesn't see any other machines in LAN. The result is: Request timing out. Ok, here's a question. Did you recompile your kernel or anything? If you did recompile, did you enable IP forwarding? You are RIGHT! It was disabled. The reason is - a lack of knowledge :-( Now I will recompile it and hope it will work. Ok, I'm almost positive this will do it. Let me know. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
After few attempts to compile the new binary of mgetty with ppp support I was adviced to go back to the initial point and try again with old binary. It became clear ( to Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to me :-) that there were a propblem with IP address. When the last item if IP was set to two digit instead of default 3 digit form than things had changed. Presen state is following: Dailing from the w95 box side I see Connected at 14400 bps Duration: 000:06:15 Details: Server type: PPP: Windows95, Windows NT 3.5, Internet Protocols: 1) TCP/IP However, when I try to run netscape ( the same with other staff) netscape stops with following message on status line: Connect: Looking up host: home.netscape.com... And after a bit thinking it returns: Netscape is unable to locate the server: home.netscape.com The server does not have a DNS entry. You might need also to specify the address of nameserver(s) from win95 box side and make sure you give proxyarp option to pppd. Alex Y. Ckeck the sever name in the Location(URL) and try again. --- Hope someone can help me to find the way out. Thanks, Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
On Mon, 19 May 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote: Presen state is following: Dailing from the w95 box side I see Connected at 14400 bps Duration: 000:06:15 Details: Server type: PPP: Windows95, Windows NT 3.5, Internet Protocols: 1) TCP/IP However, when I try to run netscape ( the same with other staff) netscape stops with following message on status line: Connect: Looking up host: home.netscape.com... And after a bit thinking it returns: Netscape is unable to locate the server: home.netscape.com The server does not have a DNS entry. You might need also to specify the address of nameserver(s) from win95 box side and make sure you give proxyarp option to pppd. I tried to add proxyarp to the coomand strings but things didn't changed. Now it looks this way in /etc/mgetty/login.config: /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap -pap login :194.67.208.10 debug dns-addr 194.67.64.1 proxyarp Ckeck the sever name in the Location(URL) and try again. --- Hope someone can help me to find the way out. Thanks, Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
mgetty for PPP; Need help
I have installed mgetty ( 1.0.0-1 ) and it works fine when I am dial-in from outside w95 machine. Now I tring to add PPP and here are the basic steps which were done: 1. Installing new kernel (2.0.27) with CONFIG_PPP=m 2. Then I edited Makefile in this way CFLAGS=-O2 -Wall -pipe -DAUTO_PPP and slightly modified the policy.h 3. Make; cp mgetty /sbin; rebot After this point I get the message ...S1, too fast respawning mgetty. Suspended for 5 min or something like that. And that is all )-; Hope that someone can help me to overcome this. Thanks in advane, Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
Eugene Sevinian wrote: I have installed mgetty ( 1.0.0-1 ) and it works fine when I am dial-in from outside w95 machine. Now I tring to add PPP and here are the basic steps which were done: 1. Installing new kernel (2.0.27) with CONFIG_PPP=m You didn't use 'make config' or 'make xconfig'? When you recompiled the kernel did you make modules and modules-install? You know, the PPP module depends on others (can't think of them offhand). 2. Then I edited Makefile in this way CFLAGS=-O2 -Wall -pipe -DAUTO_PPP and slightly modified the policy.h Did you need to compile from source? The stock binary includes AUTO_PPP support. 3. Make; cp mgetty /sbin; rebot After this point I get the message ...S1, too fast respawning mgetty. Suspended for 5 min or something like that. And that is all )-; If mgetty is respawning, something larger than ppp is probably wrong-- it would never have a chance to take a login? Perhaps something you did to the config is causing this. Did you change the config file? Did you look in /var/log/mgetty/* for error messages? Hope that someone can help me to overcome this. I'll try. I use mgetty/ppp all the time. Never compiled mgetty myself. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Eugene Sevinian wrote: 3. Make; cp mgetty /sbin; rebot After this point I get the message ...S1, too fast respawning mgetty. Suspended for 5 min or something like that. And that is all )-; If mgetty is respawning, something larger than ppp is probably wrong-- it would never have a chance to take a login? Perhaps something you did to the config is causing this. Did you change the config file? Did you look in /var/log/mgetty/* for error messages? I've seen this with mgetty trying to initialize a modem that was not a fax. Add '-D' to the mgetty line in inittab, or (I think) 'data-only' in the mgetty.config file Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps We will either find a way, or make one. Hannibal ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
Thanks Jens, here is some additional info. On Thu, 15 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Eugene Sevinian wrote: I have installed mgetty ( 1.0.0-1 ) and it works fine when I am dial-in from outside w95 machine. Now I tring to add PPP and here are the basic steps which were done: 1. Installing new kernel (2.0.27) with CONFIG_PPP=m You didn't use 'make config' or 'make xconfig'? When you recompiled the kernel did you make modules and modules-install? You know, the PPP module depends on others (can't think of them offhand). I did it. 2. Then I edited Makefile in this way CFLAGS=-O2 -Wall -pipe -DAUTO_PPP and slightly modified the policy.h Did you need to compile from source? The stock binary includes AUTO_PPP support. First I had problems with this binary. Trying to connect from w95 I got ... The computer you're dialing in to cannot establish a Dial_Up Networking connection. Check your password, and try again. ... so I decided to compile from source. 3. Make; cp mgetty /sbin; rebot After this point I get the message ...S1, too fast respawning mgetty. Suspended for 5 min or something like that. And that is all )-; If mgetty is respawning, something larger than ppp is probably wrong-- it would never have a chance to take a login? Perhaps something you did to the config is causing this. Did you change the config file? Did you look in /var/log/mgetty/* for error messages? Here is the messages coresponding to the new compiled binary lifetime from /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS1.log. -- 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 mgetty: official release 1.0.0 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 check for lockfiles 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 locking the line 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 lowering DTR to reset Modem 05/15 14:16:55 yS1 send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d] 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' ** found ** 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 send: AT[0d] 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' ** found ** 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting... 05/15 14:45:01 # failed dev=ttyS1, pid=10653, got signal 15, exiting -- Hope that someone can help me to overcome this. I'll try. I use mgetty/ppp all the time. Never compiled mgetty myself. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
Mgetty string in inittab look like s1:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -D ttyS1 Is it enough or I should set this -D somewhere else ? I've seen this with mgetty trying to initialize a modem that was not a fax. Add '-D' to the mgetty line in inittab, or (I think) 'data-only' in the mgetty.config file Tim Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
In your email to me, Eugene Sevinian, you wrote: Mgetty string in inittab look like s1:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -D ttyS1 Is it enough or I should set this -D somewhere else ? Nope... thats right. Make sure your init string (in mgetty.config I think) is right for that port. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps We will either find a way, or make one. Hannibal ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
Eugene Sevinian wrote: Thanks Jens, here is some additional info. On Thu, 15 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Eugene Sevinian wrote: I have installed mgetty ( 1.0.0-1 ) and it works fine when I am dial-in from outside w95 machine. Now I tring to add PPP and here are the basic steps which were done: 1. Installing new kernel (2.0.27) with CONFIG_PPP=m You didn't use 'make config' or 'make xconfig'? When you recompiled the kernel did you make modules and modules-install? You know, the PPP module depends on others (can't think of them offhand). I did it. 2. Then I edited Makefile in this way CFLAGS=-O2 -Wall -pipe -DAUTO_PPP and slightly modified the policy.h Did you need to compile from source? The stock binary includes AUTO_PPP support. First I had problems with this binary. Trying to connect from w95 I got ... The computer you're dialing in to cannot establish a Dial_Up Networking connection. Check your password, and try again. ... so I decided to compile from source. 3. Make; cp mgetty /sbin; rebot After this point I get the message ...S1, too fast respawning mgetty. Suspended for 5 min or something like that. And that is all )-; If mgetty is respawning, something larger than ppp is probably wrong-- it would never have a chance to take a login? Perhaps something you did to the config is causing this. Did you change the config file? Did you look in /var/log/mgetty/* for error messages? Here is the messages coresponding to the new compiled binary lifetime from /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS1.log. -- 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 mgetty: official release 1.0.0 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 check for lockfiles 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 locking the line 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 lowering DTR to reset Modem 05/15 14:16:55 yS1 send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d] 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' ** found ** 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 send: AT[0d] 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' ** found ** 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting... 05/15 14:45:01 # failed dev=ttyS1, pid=10653, got signal 15, exiting Signal 15 is SIGTERM--I wouldn't expect this signal to be issued unless you typed 'kill XXX' or some other process intentionally killed the mgetty. Could you perhaps try the stock mgetty? I don't know why SIGTERM would be sent to the mgetty process. Do you have a valid AUTO_PPP entry in /etc/mgetty/login.config? Did you edit this file? (Note that this won't solve your problem with your mgetty perishing all the time--just something you'll need to have to get going.) -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mgetty for PPP; Need help
05/15 14:16:54 yS1 mgetty: official release 1.0.0 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 check for lockfiles 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 locking the line 05/15 14:16:54 yS1 lowering DTR to reset Modem 05/15 14:16:55 yS1 send: \dATQ0V1H0[0d] 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' ** found ** 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 send: AT[0d] 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting for ``OK'' ** found ** 05/15 14:16:56 yS1 waiting... 05/15 14:45:01 # failed dev=ttyS1, pid=10653, got signal 15, exiting Signal 15 is SIGTERM--I wouldn't expect this signal to be issued unless you typed 'kill XXX' or some other process intentionally killed the mgetty. Could you perhaps try the stock mgetty? I don't know why SIGTERM would be sent to the mgetty process. You are right, of course, this string is just the evidense of the fact that I removed this bad mgetty replacing it by the old stock mgetty. Nothing more! (It was my guilty. I put too much obsolate info in my message. Sorry.) Do you have a valid AUTO_PPP entry in /etc/mgetty/login.config? Did you edit this file? Here it is... /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login Though I'm not sure that it is correct. Recalling the w95 diagnostic ... The computer you're dialing in to cannot establish a Dial_Up Networking connection. Check your password, and try again. ... I suspect that something is wrong with authentification procedure but at this point I am not familiar with this subject. Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
