Re: modem diagnostic?

2001-07-27 Thread Randolph S. Kahle
John,

I hope you don't mind if I jump on this thread. I made the same mistakes
and now I need help!

I followed RunningLinux... I also used wvdial (and that works, dialing
up to ATT here in Tucson, AZ). However, I need to dial other ISPs (this
is a portable). And they did not work with wvdial.

So, I decided to take a different path.

I removed PPP and then reinstalled ppp and pppconfig.

I ran pppconfig and created a profile.

Then I ran pon, I hear the dialtone, but it does not try to dial.

plog reports:

[...]
expect (phone)
alarm
Failed
Connect script failed
abort on (BUSY)
abort on (NO CARRIER)
abort on (VOICE)
abort on (NO DIALTONE)
send (ATDTput^M)
expect (phone)

The script just cycles.

Any thoughts?

Thanks -- Randy 



On 07 Jul 2001 11:31:32 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Glenn Becker writes:
  I've installed ppp and pppconfig from my potato CDs,...
 
 Actually, you already had them installed.
 
  ...and was following instructions I found in -Running Linux-,...
 
 A mistake.
 
  The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't find
  any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. (None of the
  available passwords would let it use an IP address).
 
 Do you have a defaultroute pointing to the NIC you use for DSL?  In any
 case, undo whatever -Running Linux- told you to do (simplest way is to
 purge and reinstall ppp).  Then run pppconfig as root, follow instructions,
 and try to connect with pon.  If you have trouble, run plog and post the
 output.
 -- 
 John Hasler
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 Elmwood, Wisconsin
 
 
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Re: modem diagnostic?

2001-07-27 Thread Randolph S. Kahle
Newbie error... Sorry

I should have entered

pon tucson-att

... using the name of the provider!



On 07 Jul 2001 11:31:32 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Glenn Becker writes:
  I've installed ppp and pppconfig from my potato CDs,...
 
 Actually, you already had them installed.
 
  ...and was following instructions I found in -Running Linux-,...
 
 A mistake.
 
  The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't find
  any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. (None of the
  available passwords would let it use an IP address).
 
 Do you have a defaultroute pointing to the NIC you use for DSL?  In any
 case, undo whatever -Running Linux- told you to do (simplest way is to
 purge and reinstall ppp).  Then run pppconfig as root, follow instructions,
 and try to connect with pon.  If you have trouble, run plog and post the
 output.
 -- 
 John Hasler
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Dancing Horse Hill
 Elmwood, Wisconsin
 
 
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Re: modem diagnostic?

2001-07-09 Thread burningclown

All,

Still can't seem to dial out ...

  In any
 case, undo whatever -Running Linux- told you to do (simplest way is to
 purge and reinstall ppp).  Then run pppconfig as root, follow instructions,
 and try to connect with pon.  If you have trouble, run plog and post the
 output.

Here's the meat: I did this. Tried every permutation of PAP, CHAP and
CHAT, dialup # with and without area code, and never got beyond this
output from plog:

pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid0
connect script failed
Exit.

... am going to contact the ISP today to see if there's any information
they can provide. Connect script failed to -me- says that the modem is
dialing but that the connection is crapping out because there's something
wrong with the configuration.

However, just to make the picture weirder, I tried wvdial. The wvdialconf
program gave me -this- message:

Scanning your serial ports for a modem.

ttyS0*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- ATQ0 V1 E1 -- ATQ0 V1 E1 -- nothing.

Port Scan*1: S1 S2 S3

Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program? Did you
configure it properly with setserial?

... so I began to explore setserial! Here is what setserial gives for
/dev/ttyS0:

/dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4

... wufff. Is there anything wrong here? One program can't detect my
modem, but it looks (to my newbie eyes) like the modem is A-OK.

Thanks,

Glenn

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Re: modem diagnostic?

2001-07-09 Thread John Hasler
Glenn writes:
 Connect script failed to -me- says that the modem is dialing but that
 the connection is crapping out because there's something wrong with the
 configuration.

Quite the opposite.  Pppd knows nothing about modems.  It calls the connect
script and expects it do deal with the modem and everything else up to the
point where the other end is ready to start ppp.

Plog should return some messages from chat, though.

 Is there anything wrong here? One program can't detect my modem, but it
 looks (to my newbie eyes) like the modem is A-OK.

No, the serial port is ok.  Setserial only knows about serial ports.  It
knows nothing about modems.  Looks like wvdial is telling you that there is
no working modem connected to that port.

See if you can talk to the modem with minicom, and check your other serial
ports.  Perhaps your modem is not on ttyS0: that's usually the mouse.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI



Re: modem diagnostic?

2001-07-09 Thread Kent West

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


All,

Still can't seem to dial out ...



In any
case, undo whatever -Running Linux- told you to do (simplest way is to
purge and reinstall ppp).  Then run pppconfig as root, follow instructions,
and try to connect with pon.  If you have trouble, run plog and post the
output.



Here's the meat: I did this. Tried every permutation of PAP, CHAP and
CHAT, dialup # with and without area code, and never got beyond this
output from plog:

pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid0
connect script failed
Exit.

... am going to contact the ISP today to see if there's any information
they can provide. Connect script failed to -me- says that the modem is
dialing but that the connection is crapping out because there's something
wrong with the configuration.

However, just to make the picture weirder, I tried wvdial. The wvdialconf
program gave me -this- message:

Scanning your serial ports for a modem.

ttyS0*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- ATQ0 V1 E1 -- ATQ0 V1 E1 -- nothing.

Port Scan*1: S1 S2 S3

Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program? Did you
configure it properly with setserial?

... so I began to explore setserial! Here is what setserial gives for
/dev/ttyS0:

/dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4

... wufff. Is there anything wrong here? One program can't detect my
modem, but it looks (to my newbie eyes) like the modem is A-OK.

Thanks,

Glenn




Just for kicks, you might try swapping out your modem with another 
temporarily, even if it's slower. A few weeks ago there was another 
thread similar to this one, where the modem worked fine in Windows, used 
to work fine in (Redhat? Mandrake?), but wasn't working in Debian. IIRC, 
his final conclusion was that a lightening strike had done just enough 
damage to prevent Debian (and presumably his other Linux distro if he 
had still had it) from working with the modem, but not Windows. I have 
no explanation for it, but I think that's the way I remember it.


Kent



modem diagnostic?

2001-07-07 Thread burningclown

Hi,

I'm wondering if there is a way to perform a hardware check on my internal
modem under Debian.

I first started having trouble with it when I was still running Windoze,
but suspected it was a crummy cable. Right arond the time I installed
Debian I got DSL, so didn't install any dialup capabilities. Now I've
moved and won't have DSL for at least a few weeks, and can't seem to
connect out.

I've installed ppp and pppconfig from my potato CDs, and was following
instructions I found in -Running Linux-, 3rd ed., but the best I got was
this message:

The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't find
any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. (None of the
available passwords would let it use an IP address).

... one source of confusion for me is that I have yet to hear a dial tone!
That is why I am looking for a simple way to test my modem, if there is
one.

Thanks in advance for any hints.

Glenn Becker

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Re: modem diagnostic?

2001-07-07 Thread D-Man
On Sat, Jul 07, 2001 at 11:09:03AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
| Hi,
| 
| I'm wondering if there is a way to perform a hardware check on my internal
| modem under Debian.
| 
| I first started having trouble with it when I was still running Windoze,
| but suspected it was a crummy cable. Right arond the time I installed
| Debian I got DSL, so didn't install any dialup capabilities. Now I've
| moved and won't have DSL for at least a few weeks, and can't seem to
| connect out.
| 
| I've installed ppp and pppconfig from my potato CDs, and was following
| instructions I found in -Running Linux-, 3rd ed., but the best I got was
| this message:
| 
| The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't find
| any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. (None of the
| available passwords would let it use an IP address).

If you got something from the remote system, I think the modem works.

| ... one source of confusion for me is that I have yet to hear a dial tone!

I think that is usually a good thing -- I find it annoying the way
windows default to max volume on the speaker.  The modem's speaker
volume can be set with ATM0 (off) or ATM1 (probably other integer
values are allowed too).  BTW those are strings sent to the modem,
usually by a program such as chat.

| That is why I am looking for a simple way to test my modem, if there is
| one.

Try minicom.  It is an interactive comm program that you can use to
communicate with the modem and try it out.  It is also really good to
use for determining what sort of expect-send pairs to use when
configuring chat to work with your ISP.

HTH,
-D



Re: modem diagnostic?

2001-07-07 Thread John Hasler
Glenn Becker writes:
 I've installed ppp and pppconfig from my potato CDs,...

Actually, you already had them installed.

 ...and was following instructions I found in -Running Linux-,...

A mistake.

 The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't find
 any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. (None of the
 available passwords would let it use an IP address).

Do you have a defaultroute pointing to the NIC you use for DSL?  In any
case, undo whatever -Running Linux- told you to do (simplest way is to
purge and reinstall ppp).  Then run pppconfig as root, follow instructions,
and try to connect with pon.  If you have trouble, run plog and post the
output.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin



Re: modem diagnostic?

2001-07-07 Thread J.A.Serralheiro
well, I had notice of some modems that were capable of silent dialing. My
one is, I think. I have a supra 33.6 diamond, isa. Its possible that there
is an option to enable/disable that. im not sure

On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering if there is a way to perform a hardware check on my internal
 modem under Debian.
 
 I first started having trouble with it when I was still running Windoze,
 but suspected it was a crummy cable. Right arond the time I installed
 Debian I got DSL, so didn't install any dialup capabilities. Now I've
 moved and won't have DSL for at least a few weeks, and can't seem to
 connect out.
 
 I've installed ppp and pppconfig from my potato CDs, and was following
 instructions I found in -Running Linux-, 3rd ed., but the best I got was
 this message:
 
 The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't find
 any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. (None of the
 available passwords would let it use an IP address).
 
 ... one source of confusion for me is that I have yet to hear a dial tone!
 That is why I am looking for a simple way to test my modem, if there is
 one.
 
 Thanks in advance for any hints.
 
 Glenn Becker
 
 ++
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 Everyone's Portal to Nothing At All
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