Re: more problems with X

2000-10-21 Thread Willy Lee
Kent == Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Brandt Dusthimer wrote:
 Bob Edwards wrote:

 (2) I have a Microsoft Natural keyboard, and the number pad on the
 far right of the keyboard does not work;


 It sounds like you don't have the correct keyboard setting in your
 /etc/XF86Config file. Not using the MS Natural Kbd, I don't know
 what's needed to fix it.

I do have a MS Natural kbd.  Here is the section from my XF86Config:

Section Keyboard
   ProtocolStandard
   XkbRulesxfree86
   XkbModelmicrosoft
   XkbLayout   us
   XkbOptions  ctrl:nocaps
EndSection

IIRC, one of the options in XF86Setup on the keyboard tab was
Microsoft Natural. ;)

 (3) linux automatically starts the xserver, and I can't get to a
 console to check out my xf86config file to see what the is the
 problem.


To get to any of 6 virtual terminal consoles, use Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6] when
in X; Alt-7 goes back to X (under normal circumstances).

=wl

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Albert ``Willy'' Lee, Emacs user, game programmer
They call me CRAZY - just because I DARE to DREAM of a RACE of 
SUPERHUMAN MONSTERS!



more problems with X

2000-10-20 Thread Bob Edwards
Greetings !

After help from a lot of folks on this list, I have a good news-bad news
situation. The good news is that x is now running.

The bad news:

(1) when x fires up, I only have what appears to be the upper left 25 %
of the screen;

(2) I have a Microsoft Natural keyboard, and the number pad on the far
right of the keyboard does not work;

(3) linux automatically starts the xserver, and I can't get to a console
to check out my xf86config file to see what the is the problem.

I will be most appreciative of any guidance. Please point me to a HOW-TO
or something that can give me some guidance.

Regards,

Bob Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fayetteville, Arkansas



Re: more problems with X

2000-10-20 Thread Brandt Dusthimer
For the upper 25% of the screen:  You have some type of Virtual Windows
setup.  You can get rid of it if you edit the XF86Config.
For the number pad: do you have Num Lock on?
For the Xstart up: if your configuration allows it, you can press
Ctrl-Alt-Bksp to dump yourself into bash or whatever you use.  If that boots
you back into X, I think there's a shell option like 'killx' or something
like that (???).  Otherwise, you can go into the shell (while in X) and do
an 'xf86config' if you want.  Then all you have to do is either restart X or
reboot.

Brandt Dusthimer

 Greetings !

 After help from a lot of folks on this list, I have a good news-bad news
 situation. The good news is that x is now running.

 The bad news:

 (1) when x fires up, I only have what appears to be the upper left 25 %
 of the screen;

 (2) I have a Microsoft Natural keyboard, and the number pad on the far
 right of the keyboard does not work;

 (3) linux automatically starts the xserver, and I can't get to a console
 to check out my xf86config file to see what the is the problem.

 I will be most appreciative of any guidance. Please point me to a HOW-TO
 or something that can give me some guidance.

 Regards,

 Bob Edwards
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Fayetteville, Arkansas


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Re: more problems with X

2000-10-20 Thread Kent West

Brandt Dusthimer wrote:


For the upper 25% of the screen:  You have some type of Virtual Windows
setup.  You can get rid of it if you edit the XF86Config.
For the number pad: do you have Num Lock on?
For the Xstart up: if your configuration allows it, you can press
Ctrl-Alt-Bksp to dump yourself into bash or whatever you use.  If that boots
you back into X, I think there's a shell option like 'killx' or something
like that (???).  Otherwise, you can go into the shell (while in X) and do
an 'xf86config' if you want.  Then all you have to do is either restart X or
reboot.

Brandt Dusthimer



Greetings !

After help from a lot of folks on this list, I have a good news-bad news
situation. The good news is that x is now running.

The bad news:

(1) when x fires up, I only have what appears to be the upper left 25 %
of the screen;


What Brant says is likely the case. However, the problem may also be an 
incorrect video setup. How did you originally set up X? Did you do it by 
hand? By answering questions during a Debian install/dselect/apt 
session? Did you do it by running XF86Setup or xf86config? If you ran 
XF86Setup, and trying it several times doesn't give you any success, try 
running xf86config instead. And vice-versa.



(2) I have a Microsoft Natural keyboard, and the number pad on the far
right of the keyboard does not work;


It sounds like you don't have the correct keyboard setting in your 
/etc/XF86Config file. Not using the MS Natural Kbd, I don't know what's 
needed to fix it.



(3) linux automatically starts the xserver, and I can't get to a console
to check out my xf86config file to see what the is the problem.


There are several ways. Since X is starting automatically, this strongly 
points to the installation of wdm or xdm or kdm or gdm. Look in 
/etc/rc2.d, near the end of the file list, for a file named something 
like S99gdm or S90wdm. It is this file that is starting X when you boot 
up Linux. You could also do a ps ax|more or ps ax|grep dm to see if 
you see any ?dm-type service running.


You could kill that service, with something like kill -9 145 (assuming 
145 is the PID of the service; it's the number in the leftmost column 
when you do a ps ax that you want); however, that's kindda messy. 
Instead, run that file in /etc/rc2.d with the stop argument. For 
example /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm stop. You'll want to make sure you don't 
have any unsaved work in X, because I believe this will kill X rather 
ungracefully. What I would recommend is to get out of the logged in X 
session to the login prompt, and then do a Ctrl-Alt-F[1 or 2], log in as 
root, and run the S99xdm stop command there. Now you can tinker around 
X-less to your heart's content.


To restart X, you can either manually say startx (it'll start logged 
in as whoever you're logged in as at the text terminal), or you can 
restart [x|g|w|k|etc]dm with /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm start and get back to 
the graphical login screen (don't forget you're still logged in as root 
on VT[whatever] though, so you might want to Ctrl-Alt-F[whatever] back 
and log out, then Alt-F[7 probably] back into X).


You could also delete the [x|whatever]dm program with dselect or with 
apt-get purge [whatever]dm, but that's a more permanent solution.


You could also rename the S99[whatever] file to something like ~S99.. or 
NOS99.. or KS99.., etc, which won't stop the current running instance, 
but will prevent it from starting on the next system startup.



I will be most appreciative of any guidance. Please point me to a HOW-TO
or something that can give me some guidance.

Regards,

Bob Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fayetteville, Arkansas




Kent