Re: Mp3 Encoding (and Virtual Machine Software for Wheezy?)
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:25:15PM -0400, Tin Kidneys wrote: On 05/18/2011 03:16 AM, Chen Wei wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:35:01AM -0400, Tin Kidneys wrote: I just purchased a Sony E-Series Walkman, don't have any album artwork showing on mp3's i just encoded using my Debian Wheezy system (my lame libraries are from debian-multimedia.org). Thanks for the response. All tags on mp3's which are currently showing not showing artwork are in ID3v2.3, so the issue is not ID3 tags. I didn't know that lame can embed image into mp3. In fact, I always use a 3rd party tagger. When I rip cd, ABCDE also appears work this way. It use lame to encode wav files, id3 or id3v2 to tag mp3 files. To embed artwork, I use easytag. Another choice is mp3tag, although it is a windows app, it runs surprisingly well under wine. -- Chen Wei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110519070901.GA2330@Tungsten.DarkStar
Re: Mp3 Encoding (and Virtual Machine Software for Wheezy?)
On 05/19/2011 03:09 AM, Chen Wei wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:25:15PM -0400, Tin Kidneys wrote: On 05/18/2011 03:16 AM, Chen Wei wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:35:01AM -0400, Tin Kidneys wrote: I just purchased a Sony E-Series Walkman, don't have any album artwork showing on mp3's i just encoded using my Debian Wheezy system (my lame libraries are from debian-multimedia.org). Thanks for the response. All tags on mp3's which are currently showing not showing artwork are in ID3v2.3, so the issue is not ID3 tags. I didn't know that lame can embed image into mp3. In fact, I always use a 3rd party tagger. When I rip cd, ABCDE also appears work this way. It use lame to encode wav files, id3 or id3v2 to tag mp3 files. To embed artwork, I use easytag. Another choice is mp3tag, although it is a windows app, it runs surprisingly well under wine. Thanks again for the response! To encode a bunch of WAV files at a time, i use Sound Converter. I use EasyTag like you to embed the artwork (i really like how in-depth the program goes to take control of all the metadata in your library). Anyway, I went ahead uninstalled all virtual machines, will contact the appropriate folks to find out what the status is for VirtualBox's Guest Additions on Wheezy. I also downgraded my FFmpeg and LAME libraries can confirm that using LAME 3.98.2-0.4 and ID3 Tag v2.3 will allow you to see embedded artwork on the Sony E-Series Walkman (NWZ-E353). Keep in mind, i was NOT transferring files using MTP protocol. This was using the device as a mass storage device with drag-and-drop. HOWEVER... It's not 100% clear that i was actually using the LAME encoder on my system. Sound Converter (from the main repos) may be using FFmpeg. I'm not completely sure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dd4d2cc.2010...@gmail.com
Re: Mp3 Encoding (and Virtual Machine Software for Wheezy?)
Hi, VirtualBox on Wheezy has been a really, really ugly experience. Here's a quick recap - 1. Follow the directions to add the Squeeze version from virtualbox.org (contrib, VirtualBox 4). 2. Attempt to install Guest Additions, synaptic says it has to uninstall VirtualBox (huh?) Guest Additions are for guest OS, you don't have to install them in host OS. Inside guest OS mount fake CD/iso copy-paste .sh, .exe...to home directory and install. - I was installing the Guest Additions 4 from the VirtualBox source. 3. Uninstalled VirtualBox 4 from the contrib source, moved on to the non-free version (source is still virtualbox.org), which is actually VirtualBox 3. 4. Attempt to install the Guest Additions, and again, Synaptic says it has to uninstall VirtualBox (Huh?!) 5. Virtual machines now won't start (issues with dkms). I have dkms and VirtualBox on Squeeze and Wheezy hosts and they work. Maybe some wrong steps? What a trip. 1. On host install VirtualBox and dkms 2. In VirtualBox install guest OS 3. Mount Guest Additions CD in guest OS 4. Copy to home dir. Guest Additions app (don't remember exactly name) from mounted CD 5. Install it. If in any period you get message need kernel header or something like that install kernel header for your kernel. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dd52ac6.4040...@dobosevic.com
Re: Mp3 Encoding (and Virtual Machine Software for Wheezy?)
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:35:01AM -0400, Tin Kidneys wrote: I just purchased a Sony E-Series Walkman, don't have any album artwork showing on mp3's i just encoded using my Debian Wheezy system (my lame libraries are from debian-multimedia.org). Some of the mp3's i added were actually showing artwork, so i ran those files through my hex editor and discovered the problem was the version of lame i was encoding with. The mp3's i encoded using my Debian (Wheezy) system, the artwork was not showing. But the older mp3's i was adding... their album's artwork WAS showing. It might not be the version of lame, but the version of id3 tag cause the problem. I'd like suggest you start troubleshooting by compare the id3 tag version, or use a tag editor, easytag for example, to rewrite the mp3 tag in the version that Sony mp3 supported. Install a virtual machine, load the older libraries, do my encoding there. However, my issue is i don't know of any virtual machine software available for Debian Wheezy (amd64). Do you guys know of any? virtualbox -- Chen Wei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110518071620.GA3080@Tungsten.DarkStar
Re: Mp3 Encoding (and Virtual Machine Software for Wheezy?)
On 05/18/2011 03:16 AM, Chen Wei wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:35:01AM -0400, Tin Kidneys wrote: I just purchased a Sony E-Series Walkman, don't have any album artwork showing on mp3's i just encoded using my Debian Wheezy system (my lame libraries are from debian-multimedia.org). Some of the mp3's i added were actually showing artwork, so i ran those files through my hex editor and discovered the problem was the version of lame i was encoding with. The mp3's i encoded using my Debian (Wheezy) system, the artwork was not showing. But the older mp3's i was adding... their album's artwork WAS showing. It might not be the version of lame, but the version of id3 tag cause the problem. I'd like suggest you start troubleshooting by compare the id3 tag version, or use a tag editor, easytag for example, to rewrite the mp3 tag in the version that Sony mp3 supported. Install a virtual machine, load the older libraries, do my encoding there. However, my issue is i don't know of any virtual machine software available for Debian Wheezy (amd64). Do you guys know of any? virtualbox Thanks for the response. All tags on mp3's which are currently showing not showing artwork are in ID3v2.3, so the issue is not ID3 tags. Also, VirtualBox is not available for Wheezy (amd64), and neither is VMWare. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dd41d1b.3070...@gmail.com
Re: Mp3 Encoding (and Virtual Machine Software for Wheezy?)
18/05/2011 21:25, Tin Kidneys wrote: On 05/18/2011 03:16 AM, Chen Wei wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:35:01AM -0400, Tin Kidneys wrote: I just purchased a Sony E-Series Walkman, don't have any album artwork showing on mp3's i just encoded using my Debian Wheezy system (my lame libraries are from debian-multimedia.org). Some of the mp3's i added were actually showing artwork, so i ran those files through my hex editor and discovered the problem was the version of lame i was encoding with. The mp3's i encoded using my Debian (Wheezy) system, the artwork was not showing. But the older mp3's i was adding... their album's artwork WAS showing. It might not be the version of lame, but the version of id3 tag cause the problem. I'd like suggest you start troubleshooting by compare the id3 tag version, or use a tag editor, easytag for example, to rewrite the mp3 tag in the version that Sony mp3 supported. Install a virtual machine, load the older libraries, do my encoding there. However, my issue is i don't know of any virtual machine software available for Debian Wheezy (amd64). Do you guys know of any? virtualbox Thanks for the response. All tags on mp3's which are currently showing not showing artwork are in ID3v2.3, so the issue is not ID3 tags. Also, VirtualBox is not available for Wheezy (amd64), and neither is VMWare. Hi, assuming you are talking about the Oracle Virtualbox, Squeeze version works fine on wheezy/Sid (amd64), just add: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze contrib to your sources.list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dd420fd.8000...@googlemail.com
Re: Mp3 Encoding (and Virtual Machine Software for Wheezy?)
On 05/18/2011 03:41 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: 18/05/2011 21:25, Tin Kidneys wrote: On 05/18/2011 03:16 AM, Chen Wei wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:35:01AM -0400, Tin Kidneys wrote: I just purchased a Sony E-Series Walkman, don't have any album artwork showing on mp3's i just encoded using my Debian Wheezy system (my lame libraries are from debian-multimedia.org). Some of the mp3's i added were actually showing artwork, so i ran those files through my hex editor and discovered the problem was the version of lame i was encoding with. The mp3's i encoded using my Debian (Wheezy) system, the artwork was not showing. But the older mp3's i was adding... their album's artwork WAS showing. It might not be the version of lame, but the version of id3 tag cause the problem. I'd like suggest you start troubleshooting by compare the id3 tag version, or use a tag editor, easytag for example, to rewrite the mp3 tag in the version that Sony mp3 supported. Install a virtual machine, load the older libraries, do my encoding there. However, my issue is i don't know of any virtual machine software available for Debian Wheezy (amd64). Do you guys know of any? virtualbox Thanks for the response. All tags on mp3's which are currently showing not showing artwork are in ID3v2.3, so the issue is not ID3 tags. Also, VirtualBox is not available for Wheezy (amd64), and neither is VMWare. Hi, assuming you are talking about the Oracle Virtualbox, Squeeze version works fine on wheezy/Sid (amd64), just add: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze contrib to your sources.list. VirtualBox on Wheezy has been a really, really ugly experience. Here's a quick recap - 1. Follow the directions to add the Squeeze version from virtualbox.org (contrib, VirtualBox 4). 2. Attempt to install Guest Additions, synaptic says it has to uninstall VirtualBox (huh?) - I was installing the Guest Additions 4 from the VirtualBox source. 3. Uninstalled VirtualBox 4 from the contrib source, moved on to the non-free version (source is still virtualbox.org), which is actually VirtualBox 3. 4. Attempt to install the Guest Additions, and again, Synaptic says it has to uninstall VirtualBox (Huh?!) 5. Virtual machines now won't start (issues with dkms). My alternative (which i tried on another system) is to bite the bullet install the prior version of lame gstreamer plugins on my system. But the issue with that is the program i use (Sound Converter in the official repositories) will not encode mp3 for some reason. Even after i go through the steps of being sure all the gstreamer plugins are installed. What a trip. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dd47040.1090...@gmail.com
Mp3 Encoding (and Virtual Machine Software for Wheezy?)
Hey folks, I've run into a small predicament. I just purchased a Sony E-Series Walkman, don't have any album artwork showing on mp3's i just encoded using my Debian Wheezy system (my lame libraries are from debian-multimedia.org). Some of the mp3's i added were actually showing artwork, so i ran those files through my hex editor and discovered the problem was the version of lame i was encoding with. The mp3's i encoded using my Debian (Wheezy) system, the artwork was not showing. But the older mp3's i was adding... their album's artwork WAS showing. So there it is. Possible solutions? Install a virtual machine, load the older libraries, do my encoding there. However, my issue is i don't know of any virtual machine software available for Debian Wheezy (amd64). Do you guys know of any? Or, is there a way to install an older library, encode with it, not have it interfere with my system's current configuration? Please Note: the newer encoding libraries perform better than the older ones (obviously), so i don't want to roll back any of them unless i'm left without a choice here. Any help's greatly appreciated, i hope you're all doing well out there! - tin.kidneys -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dd34c75.1020...@gmail.com
dragdrop mp3 encoding problem in KDE
Hi all, I'm running debian testing with the latest KDE (3.5.9) from testing again. As some of you may know, KDE allows drag and drop mp3 file encoding (among with ogg, flac, wav, etc) from konqueror. Until recently I was able to use this function but for approximately one month, I'm unable to use it. KDE starts to copy the file but when encoding an error window pops up with a very long message. Since the box cannot be resized, I cannot read all of the message. I use debian-multimedia.org repositories for lame and its friends. Can anybody have some ideas about what might be wrong? Thanks, Hakan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dragdrop mp3 encoding problem in KDE
Can't you try to select the text from the popup and paste it in something where you can read it? Sjoerd Hakan Bayindir wrote: Hi all, I'm running debian testing with the latest KDE (3.5.9) from testing again. As some of you may know, KDE allows drag and drop mp3 file encoding (among with ogg, flac, wav, etc) from konqueror. Until recently I was able to use this function but for approximately one month, I'm unable to use it. KDE starts to copy the file but when encoding an error window pops up with a very long message. Since the box cannot be resized, I cannot read all of the message. I use debian-multimedia.org repositories for lame and its friends. Can anybody have some ideas about what might be wrong? Thanks, Hakan. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: dragdrop mp3 encoding problem in KDE
On Wed, September 3, 2008 14:23, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: I remember I can't. Anyway, I'll try it again tonight and send the results here. Cheers, Hakan Can't you try to select the text from the popup and paste it in something where you can read it? Sjoerd Hakan Bayindir wrote: Hi all, I'm running debian testing with the latest KDE (3.5.9) from testing again. As some of you may know, KDE allows drag and drop mp3 file encoding (among with ogg, flac, wav, etc) from konqueror. Until recently I was able to use this function but for approximately one month, I'm unable to use it. KDE starts to copy the file but when encoding an error window pops up with a very long message. Since the box cannot be resized, I cannot read all of the message. I use debian-multimedia.org repositories for lame and its friends. Can anybody have some ideas about what might be wrong? Thanks, Hakan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dragdrop mp3 encoding problem in KDE
It looks like I can't select the text. Also when I resize, the place of the cancel button doesn't change hence blocking rest of the message. Hakan Hakan Bayindir wrote: On Wed, September 3, 2008 14:23, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: I remember I can't. Anyway, I'll try it again tonight and send the results here. Cheers, Hakan Can't you try to select the text from the popup and paste it in something where you can read it? Sjoerd Hakan Bayindir wrote: Hi all, I'm running debian testing with the latest KDE (3.5.9) from testing again. As some of you may know, KDE allows drag and drop mp3 file encoding (among with ogg, flac, wav, etc) from konqueror. Until recently I was able to use this function but for approximately one month, I'm unable to use it. KDE starts to copy the file but when encoding an error window pops up with a very long message. Since the box cannot be resized, I cannot read all of the message. I use debian-multimedia.org repositories for lame and its friends. Can anybody have some ideas about what might be wrong? Thanks, Hakan. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: (SOLVED?) Re: MP3 encoding?
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:29:08 -0700 Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, lame does a conversion and does not give me any errors. I can play the file with 'play' from sox, and sox will take it as input to iirc it depends if sox has come with links to the libmp3lame or other mp3 related libraries on by default. Maybe this is not the case, since mp3 encoding is by definition encumbered. Here on 'etch' sox is linked against libvorbis but not any mp3 libraries, so I expect native saving in mp3 format isn't going to work, unless of course you recompile 'sox'. Ogg vorbis should work though. Over here it seems to play (using 'play anmp3file.mp3') just fine. However, its screen output gives me the impression it's actually ogg vorbis doing the playing. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MP3 encoding?
Sox says that it can handle .mp3, but when I try to convert a file to .mp3 I get the following error: sox: Sorry, no MP3 encoding support Am I missing something? Does it only decode .mp3 and not encode them? Is there some way to get sox to handle .mp3 encoding? Or is there some other package that can handle this conversion? -- Marc Shapiro No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom. Sooner or later ... boom! - Susan Ivanova: B5 - Grail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(SOLVED?) Re: MP3 encoding?
Marc Shapiro wrote: Sox says that it can handle .mp3, but when I try to convert a file to .mp3 I get the following error: sox: Sorry, no MP3 encoding support Am I missing something? Does it only decode .mp3 and not encode them? Is there some way to get sox to handle .mp3 encoding? Or is there some other package that can handle this conversion? Well, lame does a conversion and does not give me any errors. I can play the file with 'play' from sox, and sox will take it as input to another conversion, so it seems good (and suggests that sox does do decoding, but not encoding, of .mp3 files). I will have to load a test file onto my wife's MP3 player tomorrow and verify that it can play the file. -- Marc Shapiro No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom. Sooner or later ... boom! - Susan Ivanova: B5 - Grail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (SOLVED?) Re: MP3 encoding?
On Sun June 11 2006 12:29 am, Marc Shapiro wrote: Well, lame does a conversion and does not give me any errors. I can play the file with 'play' from sox, and sox will take it as input to another conversion, so it seems good (and suggests that sox does do decoding, but not encoding, of .mp3 files). I will have to load a test file onto my wife's MP3 player tomorrow and verify that it can play the file. I was going to suggest lame, it's the only one I've ever used, never had any reason to look elsewhere. oggenc does the same for ogg files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (SOLVED?) Re: MP3 encoding?
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 00:29:08 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: Sox says that it can handle .mp3, but when I try to convert a file to .mp3 I get the following error: sox: Sorry, no MP3 encoding support Am I missing something? Does it only decode .mp3 and not encode them? Is there some way to get sox to handle .mp3 encoding? Or is there some other package that can handle this conversion? Well, lame does a conversion and does not give me any errors. I can play the file with 'play' from sox, and sox will take it as input to another conversion, so it seems good (and suggests that sox does do decoding, but not encoding, of .mp3 files). I will have to load a test file onto my wife's MP3 player tomorrow and verify that it can play the file. If you want to convert movies then ffmpeg is an option. It can also be used to convert audio only. /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://therning.org/magnus Software is not manufactured, it is something you write and publish. Keep Europe free from software patents, we do not want censorship by patent law on written works. Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. -- Quote from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs pgpFyJr55hcWA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: (SOLVED?) Re: MP3 encoding?
Alan Ianson wrote: On Sun June 11 2006 12:29 am, Marc Shapiro wrote: Well, lame does a conversion and does not give me any errors. I can play the file with 'play' from sox, and sox will take it as input to another conversion, so it seems good (and suggests that sox does do decoding, but not encoding, of .mp3 files). I will have to load a test file onto my wife's MP3 player tomorrow and verify that it can play the file. I was going to suggest lame, it's the only one I've ever used, never had any reason to look elsewhere. oggenc does the same for ogg files. Sox handles the ogg encoding just fine, for me. -- Marc Shapiro No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom. Sooner or later ... boom! - Susan Ivanova: B5 - Grail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ogg Vorbis (was Re: mp3 encoding)
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, jennyw wrote: Are there any Ogg Vorbis portable players? Or support for Mac OS X? Playing music on Linux and Windows is cool, but mp3s run everywhere. Of course, I may try it anyway since I don't currently have a portable player. It looks like a great project. Hi, The RioVolt Blue has the ability to play multiple soundformats. At the moment they support not only mp3, but also wmf for example. I'm not sure if they do support ogg though. I guess you'll be able to find out on their site. At least they should be able to, since this device has the ability to learn by upgrading it's firmware. Now someone has to write the support for it (if it's not there yet). On all other counts this is a great portable. Grx HdV -- Last night as I lay in bed looking at the stars I thought 'Where the hell is the ceiling?' J.A. de Vries aka HdV Delft University of Technology Computing Centre Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mp3 encoding
Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course ogg vorbis is the only _true_ solution *grin*. And if you're worried about being able to play the .ogg files on Windows boxen, there's a winamp plugin that works very well, and sonique support .ogg files out of the box. Downloaded the various libraries and vorbistools last night in source files (tar.gz) from www.ogg.org last night. Lo and behold, when unpacked they proved to have a debian directory to enable the building of packages ;-) With a little tweaking of *rules files it proved possible to compile 'em on my potato box here. It's very nice!! Xmms plays the .ogg format as does Freeamp. Thanks for encouraging me towards this ;-) Glyn -- ** * Here we are then... * * http://members.tripod.co.uk/Christchurch2000uk * **
Ogg Vorbis (was Re: mp3 encoding)
Are there any Ogg Vorbis portable players? Or support for Mac OS X? Playing music on Linux and Windows is cool, but mp3s run everywhere. Of course, I may try it anyway since I don't currently have a portable player. It looks like a great project. Jen
Re: Ogg Vorbis (was Re: mp3 encoding)
At 02:00 PM 11/27/01 -0800, jennyw wrote: Are there any Ogg Vorbis portable players? Or support for Mac OS X? Playing music on Linux and Windows is cool, but mp3s run everywhere. Of course, I may try it anyway since I don't currently have a portable player. It looks like a great project. Jen Well one consideration to make is the difference between listening on your PC (with nearly unlimited storage), and on a portable player (extremely limited storage) Personally I'd be re-enconding to a lower bitrate (smaller files) for the portable player anyway. So Ogg for the PC, and mp3 for the portable works fine for me. Thats not a solution for everyone... but hey, you're a debian user right?
Re: Ogg Vorbis (was Re: mp3 encoding)
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, jennyw wrote: Are there any Ogg Vorbis portable players? Or support for Mac OS X? On OS X, Audion (my favorite player) should support Ogg Vorbis, though I've never tried it. http://www.panic.com/audion/ Shareware, but decidedly cool. - Aaron -- Aaron Hall : C'mon, Netscape! I can whistle the page in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Morse faster than you're fetching it! Macintosh/UNIX Weenie, Network Flack, and...eh, whatever.
Re: Ogg Vorbis (was Re: mp3 encoding)
From: John Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well one consideration to make is the difference between listening on your PC (with nearly unlimited storage), and on a portable player (extremely limited storage) True ... but if you're about to take a really long car trip, portable players are nice. Also, it'd be nice to just copy what exists onto a portable player instead of converting them to another format. Of course, I have no experience converting from Ogg Vorbis to MP3 so maybe it's really fast? but hey, you're a debian user right? Yep. Debian, Windows, Mac OS X and 9, and a few other things besides. Mostly I'm used to using Debian as a server OS (no GUI) and Windows as a desktop OS. Jen
Re: Ogg Vorbis (was Re: mp3 encoding)
True ... but if you're about to take a really long car trip, portable players are nice. Also, it'd be nice to just copy what exists onto a portable player instead of converting them to another format. Of course, I have no experience converting from Ogg Vorbis to MP3 so maybe it's really fast? It's a bit quicker than normal encoding (you don't have to wait for it to get the file off the CD) but not a hell of a lot I guess my point was that on my computer I like 128 or higher encoding but in a portable player I'm willing to go as low as 44 (or 16 mono to really save space) to get more songs on.
mp3 encoding
I searched old messages and learned that mp3 encoders are not included in Debian is because of some patent issues, but ... Has something changed? I did notice some mp3 stuff in the debian packages list. If things haven't changed and I'm misunderstanding something I saw, how can there be so many free mp3 encoders out there? Are they all violating a patent? Or are mp3 encoders not included in Debian because the law is vague? Assuming I'm not breaking any laws here, any suggestions on how to get MP3 encoders for Debian Woody? Thanks! Jen
Re: mp3 encoding
On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 15:03, jennyw wrote: I searched old messages and learned that mp3 encoders are not included in Debian is because of some patent issues, but ... Has something changed? I did notice some mp3 stuff in the debian packages list. If things haven't changed and I'm misunderstanding something I saw, how can there be so many free mp3 encoders out there? Are they all violating a patent? Or are mp3 encoders not included in Debian because the law is vague? Assuming I'm not breaking any laws here, any suggestions on how to get MP3 encoders for Debian Woody? I use lame, www.sulaco.org/mp3 is where to find it. I've had no complaints with it, fast and sounds good to my ears, YMMV. Go grab the source and follow the build instructions after you unpack it in a suitable place. --mike
Re: mp3 encoding
jennyw wrote: I searched old messages and learned that mp3 encoders are not included in Debian is because of some patent issues, but ... Has something changed? I did notice some mp3 stuff in the debian packages list. There are programs to edit mp3 tags, and to play mp3s. Did you find an mp3 encoder in Debian? If so, which package is it? If things haven't changed and I'm misunderstanding something I saw, how can there be so many free mp3 encoders out there? Are they all violating a patent? Anyone distributing an unlicensed mp3 encoder may be vulerable to a patent infringement lawsuit, or may be required by Thomson to pay royalties. Or are mp3 encoders not included in Debian because the law is vague? Nothing vague about it. There are patents covering crucial aspects of mp3 encoding, and Thomson, on behalf of Fraunhofer, administers those patents. I think they've stated in the past that they won't seek royalties from producers or users of non-commercial products, but they could change that policy at any time. Assuming I'm not breaking any laws here, any suggestions on how to get MP3 encoders for Debian Woody? Does it have to be mp3? Ogg Vorbis is a superior format, and is free, and is available in Debian. Check out the vorbis-tools package. xmms has vorbis decoding support, and plugins are available for many other players. If you really have to have mp3 encoding, a search of the Internet should be able to turn up some mp3 encoders that run on Linux. Some may be commercial, and others may theoretically put you at risk of legal action (not that Thomson is likely to go after private individuals who are using mp3 only for their own private use), but it's up to you whether you worry about those issues. Craig
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jennyw said: violating a patent? Or are mp3 encoders not included in Debian because the law is vague? i think its the uncertainity. there have been some encoders in the past that claimed to be free(8hz-mp3 comes to mind) but eventually were determined not to be. lame is probably the closest there is to free but i haven't heard of anything that says whether or not it really works patent free. from what i remember/read it should be impossible to make a true mp3 encoder and not violate the patents. i don't have any urls to verify though. Assuming I'm not breaking any laws here, any suggestions on how to get MP3 encoders for Debian Woody? i use l3enc for encoding(very slow but good quality), i found a serial# for it a few years ago(i can't find a way to buy it) and i use a program called mp3make(not sure if its packaged either). its a console based front end to cdparanoia and 3-4 different encoders including l3enc. it uses xmcd libraries to access the CDDB, and from what i read on xmcd's homepage it is licensed to access CDDB so having mp3make piggyback on it works well. im not sure if CDDB is still being anal about who accesses it. its by far the most reliable CDA-MP3 converter ive ever used. very basic, gets the job done. if your into fancy features it may not work for you. mp3make is available from freshmeat.net and compiles easily on woody with the xmcd dev packages installed (i don't remember which ones off hand but use packages.debian.org to find them) it is slow though, even on my 1.3 athlon. since i only encode it once its not a big deal to me i dont encode often. nate
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 01:03:43PM -0800, jennyw wrote: I searched old messages and learned that mp3 encoders are not included in Debian is because of some patent issues, but ... Has something changed? I did notice some mp3 stuff in the debian packages list. Stop that discussion about mp3s! ogg is alive and it's free! www.ogg.org Sven BTW: No I'm not a gnu evangelist but ogg is realy good, I love it! -- Lamer! :) Lokaler Admin mit enormen Rechten[tm] [Christian Schneider und Jens Himmelrath in alt.hacker.org-gcf] http://www.linux-secure.de http://www.linuxboard.de http://www.bluephod.net
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wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/lame/lame3.89beta.tar.gz tar zxf lame3.89beta.tar.gz cd lame-3.89 ./configure --prefix=`cd ~; pwd` make install ~mark From: jennyw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assuming I'm not breaking any laws here, any suggestions on how to get MP3 encoders for Debian Woody?
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, nate wrote: i use l3enc for encoding(very slow but good quality), i found a serial# for it a few years ago(i can't find a way to buy it) and i use Although l3enc is the only legal encoder I know of that runs on Linux, I wouldn't necessarily say it has the best quality, except at very low bitrates. I've heard that LAME is the best quality encoder at normal (128-256K) bitrates. I do not know which encoder is best for variable bitrate.
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Of course ogg vorbis is the only _true_ solution *grin*. And if you're worried about being able to play the .ogg files on Windows boxen, there's a winamp plugin that works very well, and sonique support .ogg files out of the box. Personally I find the quality of ogg vorbis as good if not better than mp3, using the latest rc2 release. Sean On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 18:10, William T Wilson wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, nate wrote: i use l3enc for encoding(very slow but good quality), i found a serial# for it a few years ago(i can't find a way to buy it) and i use Although l3enc is the only legal encoder I know of that runs on Linux, I wouldn't necessarily say it has the best quality, except at very low bitrates. I've heard that LAME is the best quality encoder at normal (128-256K) bitrates. I do not know which encoder is best for variable bitrate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GPG Public Key available: http://nimh.freeshell.org/gpg_key.txt pgp1OzQyXdb8p.pgp Description: PGP signature
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William T Wilson said: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, nate wrote: i use l3enc for encoding(very slow but good quality), i found a serial# for it a few years ago(i can't find a way to buy it) and i use Although l3enc is the only legal encoder I know of that runs on Linux, I wouldn't necessarily say it has the best quality, except at very low bitrates. I've heard that LAME is the best quality encoder at normal (128-256K) bitrates. I do not know which encoder is best for variable bitrate. yeah. i originallly started using it because i encoded stuff at 32kbps/96kbps for my rio. when i last tried lame(~2 years ago) it sounded weird(music was not stable, hard to describe it sounded wobbly). im not concerned too much about quality(unlike some who insist on 192kbps or something), but that was far from usable at the time, sort of like playing a tape in a screwed up cassette deck. at the time, l3enc sounded better at 32kbps then some other encoders(maybe lame too) at 96kbps. the key for me though is mp3make. i've tried several X based CDA-MP3 converters in the past, KDE based, gnome based(can't remember names off the top of my head) and all of them had severe problems for me, crashing, or wouldn't encode or i couldn't figure out the advanced options. as of the current version it doesnt seem as if mp3make supports lame out-of-the-box. thought it did ...runs on 8hz-mp3, l3enc, mp3enc, or bladeenc. nate
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On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 17:46, nate wrote: William T Wilson said: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, nate wrote: i use l3enc for encoding(very slow but good quality), i found a serial# for it a few years ago(i can't find a way to buy it) and i use Although l3enc is the only legal encoder I know of that runs on Linux, I wouldn't necessarily say it has the best quality, except at very low bitrates. I've heard that LAME is the best quality encoder at normal (128-256K) bitrates. I do not know which encoder is best for variable bitrate. yeah. i originallly started using it because i encoded stuff at 32kbps/96kbps for my rio. when i last tried lame(~2 years ago) it sounded weird(music was not stable, hard to describe it sounded wobbly). im not concerned too much about quality(unlike some who insist on 192kbps or something), but that was far from usable at the time, sort of like playing a tape in a screwed up cassette deck. at the time, l3enc sounded better at 32kbps then some other encoders(maybe lame too) at 96kbps. the key for me though is mp3make. i've tried several X based CDA-MP3 converters in the past, KDE based, gnome based(can't remember names off the top of my head) and all of them had severe problems for me, crashing, or wouldn't encode or i couldn't figure out the advanced options. as of the current version it doesnt seem as if mp3make supports lame out-of-the-box. thought it did ...runs on 8hz-mp3, l3enc, mp3enc, or bladeenc. Try abcde, it's console based but pretty good in my opinion. Does cddb querying and editing, id3 tagging, ripping and encoding through the programs of your choice. --mike
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I gather mp3 encoders aren't included in the official debian distribution? any tips on getting and installing lame (or something that'll work with abcde)? There are no mp3 encoders in the official distribution probably because of legal issues. You can download lame from ftp://lame.sourceforge.net/pub/lame/src/ but it does not appear to be prepared to build debian packages. Compilation should be easy. If you don't care about mp3 (what's abcde?) you can use the vorbis beta3 packages in potato, save some work and get at least the same sound quality and a free format. Or you can download the vorbis beta4 packages from www.vorbis.com and get even better sound quality. There was a thread about this recently on this list.
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On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 10:00:58AM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote: If you don't care about mp3 (what's abcde?) A Better CD Encoder, the program formerly known as cdgrab. Debian's abcde package will, incidentally, encode to ogg in preference to mp3 if the vorbis encoding package (vorbis-tools?) is installed. -- Linux will do for applications what the Internet did for networks. - IBM, Peace, Love, and Linux Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+ L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
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Hi John, Get lame3.88beta.tar.gz from ftp://lame.sourceforge.net/pub/lame/src/. Then: tar xzvf lame3.88beta.tar.gz cd lame-3.88/debian chmod +x rules cd .. fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage You'll get Debian packages which are installed easily. -- Stefan Deibel Altkönigstraße 5 D-55127 Mainz Tel. +49(6131) 937390
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Hi guys. I gather mp3 encoders aren't included in the official debian distribution? any tips on getting and installing lame (or something that'll work with abcde)? thanks. John
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Ok, I know there have been some licensing issues which is probably why so many of these disappeared, but is anyone still doing mp3 encoding on linux? I installed grip, but I don't have an encoder installed. What is everyone else using? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
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Ok, I know there have been some licensing issues which is probably why so many of these disappeared, but is anyone still doing mp3 encoding on linux? I installed grip, but I don't have an encoder installed. What is everyone else using? Yes.. I am using lame is great.. dont know if I installed it by apt-get or from source code tarball anyway go for it. Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.ddts.net Powered by ddt dynamic DNS Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
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On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:11:46PM +0100, Roberto Diaz wrote: Yes.. I am using lame is great.. dont know if I installed it by apt-get or from source code tarball anyway go for it. I don't see lame anymore. I just grabbed a copy of bladeenc from Slovenia, because I can't find it in the west. I think a lot of the western sites were slapped with ceast and desist orders. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
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Yes.. I am using lame is great.. dont know if I installed it by apt-get or from source code tarball anyway go for it. I don't see lame anymore. I just grabbed a copy of bladeenc from Slovenia, because I can't find it in the west. I think a lot of the western sites were slapped with ceast and desist orders. Can you see http://www.mp3-dev.org/mp3 ? Lame is there.. Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.ddts.net Powered by ddt dynamic DNS Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
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I don't see lame anymore. I just grabbed a copy of bladeenc from Slovenia, because I can't find it in the west. I think a lot of the western sites were slapped with ceast and desist orders. Can you see http://www.mp3-dev.org/mp3 ? Sorry.. I mistyped www.mp3dev.org thats the site for lame. Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.ddts.net Powered by ddt dynamic DNS Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?)
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On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:47:38PM +0100, Roberto Diaz wrote: Can you see http://www.mp3-dev.org/mp3 ? Lame is there.. Actually, no. [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ nslookup www.mp3-dev.org Server: proxy1.rdc1.on.home.com Address: 24.2.9.33 *** proxy1.rdc1.on.home.com can't find www.mp3-dev.org: Non-existent host/domain Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
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On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:49:12PM +0100, Roberto Diaz wrote: I don't see lame anymore. I just grabbed a copy of bladeenc from Slovenia, because I can't find it in the west. I think a lot of the western sites were slapped with ceast and desist orders. Can you see http://www.mp3-dev.org/mp3 ? Sorry.. I mistyped www.mp3dev.org thats the site for lame. Ah, better. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
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check the unofficial apt source page. there's one that has lame there. -- Forrest English http://truffula.net When we have nothing left to give There will be no reason for us to live But when we have nothing left to lose You will have nothing left to use -Fugazi On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Roberto Diaz wrote: Ok, I know there have been some licensing issues which is probably why so many of these disappeared, but is anyone still doing mp3 encoding on linux? I installed grip, but I don't have an encoder installed. What is everyone else using? Yes.. I am using lame is great.. dont know if I installed it by apt-get or from source code tarball anyway go for it. Regards Roberto Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vivaldi.ddts.net Powered by ddt dynamic DNS Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:47:38PM +0100, Roberto Diaz wrote: Yes.. I am using lame is great.. dont know if I installed it by apt-get or from source code tarball anyway go for it. I don't see lame anymore. I just grabbed a copy of bladeenc from Slovenia, because I can't find it in the west. I think a lot of the western sites were slapped with ceast and desist orders. Put deb http://forcix.cx/ debian/ in your /etc/apt/source.list and then type apt-get install lame -- Latreyte David http://www.gaule.org Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 --
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On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 07:07:00PM +0100, Latreyte David wrote: Put deb http://forcix.cx/ debian/ in your /etc/apt/source.list and then type apt-get install lame Well, the source-line didn't work, but I grabbed the .deb in my browser. Thanks! Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925
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Put deb http://forcix.cx/ debian/ in your /etc/apt/source.list and then type apt-get install lame Well, the source-line didn't work, but I grabbed the .deb in my browser. It does work - did you remember to a) Put a space between forcix.cx/ and debian/ ? b) run apt-get update before trying to install lame? Just a note in case forcix has any other juicy tidbits you'd want to update in the future... gdh
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:20:00 EST, Michael P. Soulier writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 07:07:00PM +0100, Latreyte David wrote: lame, and how to get it You may also want to search for gogo[0], it´s based on lame, with some portions re-written in assembler[1]. Unequalled in speed and quality[2]. Unfortunately I know of no .deb for it, you´d have to compile it yourself. cheers, rw 0: GOGO-no-coda on googlefriends 1: sorry, i386 (and there 586++ IIRC) only 2: IMHO -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |KPNQwest/AT | DSA key ID: C33A2BC0 /
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(sorry for following up on my own post) On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:59:58 +0100, Robert Waldner writes: You may also want to search for gogo[0], it´s based on lame, with some portions re-written in assembler[1]. Unequalled in speed and quality[2]. Unfortunately I know of no .deb for it, you´d have to compile it yourself. It seems gogo is halfway vanished, the latest tarball can be grabbed from http://homepage1.nifty.com/herumi/soft/gogo2/src/gogo239b.tgz cheers, rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |KPNQwest/AT | DSA key ID: C33A2BC0 /
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Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 05:11:46PM +0100, Roberto Diaz wrote: Yes.. I am using lame is great.. dont know if I installed it by apt-get or from source code tarball anyway go for it. I don't see lame anymore. I just grabbed a copy of bladeenc from Slovenia, because I can't find it in the west. I think a lot of the western sites were slapped with ceast and desist orders. might be a time to give ogg vorbis a chance... erik
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hi ya I have a few links for endcoding/decoding mpeg files mpeg1, 2, 3... http://www.Linux-Video.net look at the encoder and decoders links am trying tofind mpeg3/mpeg4 linux-based players than can also play its mpeg out to the regular TV... Am sorta testing the NetStream2000 card that is has a linux driver for it for dribving the TV...but it segfaults on installs c ya alvin http://www.Linux-Video.net On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Robert Waldner wrote: (sorry for following up on my own post) On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:59:58 +0100, Robert Waldner writes: You may also want to search for gogo[0], it´s based on lame, with some portions re-written in assembler[1]. Unequalled in speed and quality[2]. Unfortunately I know of no .deb for it, you´d have to compile it yourself. It seems gogo is halfway vanished, the latest tarball can be grabbed from http://homepage1.nifty.com/herumi/soft/gogo2/src/gogo239b.tgz cheers, rw
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Are you tied to mp3? There's a free alternative that's reasonably supported by Debian: ogg/vorbis. Try it. It's a little bigger file for file, but I was able to play ogg files reasonably on a 486... On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Ok, I know there have been some licensing issues which is probably why so many of these disappeared, but is anyone still doing mp3 encoding on linux? I installed grip, but I don't have an encoder installed. What is everyone else using? Thanks, Mike -- Armageddon means never having to say you're sorry. Who is John Galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Corey Miller wrote: Does anyone know of any good mp3 encoding programs for linux? Thanks, Corey Miller look for l3enc (I think it is in the hamm distribution) Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does anyone know of any good mp3 encoding programs for linux? Thanks, Corey Miller --- Corey Miller This looks like a job for . legal tender! MSTie #71940 -The Tick [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.egr.msu.edu/~mille542/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
