Re: mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-18 Thread freeman
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:19:44PM -0800, freeman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:37:40PM +, s. keeling wrote:
> > freeman :
> > >  On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:55:54AM +0100, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:
> > 
> > Perhaps we just have very different ways of dealing with it all.
> > 
> I do that for listmail and business emails. Guess I don't like to stop and
> think about when to delete, when to archive, etc..
> 
> My procmail sorts to about 10 respective listmail boxes and 5 business
> mailboxes.  After n weeks they save to archive; eventually they delete from
> there.
> 

I should clarify, I do manually delete and sort from my INBOX.

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Re: mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-18 Thread freeman
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:37:40PM +, s. keeling wrote:
> freeman :
> >  On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:55:54AM +0100, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:
> > > freeman  writes:
> > > > I use folder-hooks to archive mail after n weeks. Here is the l-debusr
> > > > hook:
> > > >
> > > > folder-hook l-debusr 'push
> > > > ~r>12w!~F+archive/l-debusr'
> > > 
> > > I have the following for archiving old mail (>90d) in my INBOX.
> > > 
> > > folder-hook =INBOX'push 
> > > ~R~r>90d=Archive~A'
> 
> I'm glad you got your solution.
> 
> Not criticism, honest, I'm curious why you wanted it.  If something's
> still in your inbox after 90 days, it's because you've not yet deleted
> it.  Why would you leave that work to an "age-ist" 'bot?  My inbox has
> about 10 mails I've yet to get to.  They've all been read.  Everything
> else has been filed away or deleted.
> 
> Perhaps we just have very different ways of dealing with it all.
> 
I do that for listmail and business emails. Guess I don't like to stop and
think about when to delete, when to archive, etc..

My procmail sorts to about 10 respective listmail boxes and 5 business
mailboxes.  After n weeks they save to archive; eventually they delete from
there.

That gives me a current and aging pool of information that I can read and
re-reference as I leave and return to projects. It also gives me archives of
business email that comply with standardized length of archive practices.

How-to's all to often equate to Don't-do's; forums tend to have high signal
to noise ratios; this scheme gives me a current pool of listmail that
doesn't backup and is there as I need it, faster than the speed of a
connection.

I only wish I did CS for a living. I need to leave and return to projects,
of which there are always 20 or 30 between 3 dual booting computers :0, as
my schedule untangles itself like a sloth negotiating an obstacle course in
a swamp, with alligators.

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Re: mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-18 Thread s. keeling
freeman :
>  On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:55:54AM +0100, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:
> > freeman  writes:
> > > I use folder-hooks to archive mail after n weeks. Here is the l-debusr
> > > hook:
> > >
> > > folder-hook l-debusr 'push
> > > ~r>12w!~F+archive/l-debusr'
> > 
> > I have the following for archiving old mail (>90d) in my INBOX.
> > 
> > folder-hook =INBOX  'push 
> > ~R~r>90d=Archive~A'

I'm glad you got your solution.

Not criticism, honest, I'm curious why you wanted it.  If something's
still in your inbox after 90 days, it's because you've not yet deleted
it.  Why would you leave that work to an "age-ist" 'bot?  My inbox has
about 10 mails I've yet to get to.  They've all been read.  Everything
else has been filed away or deleted.

Perhaps we just have very different ways of dealing with it all.


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Re: mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-16 Thread freeman
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:55:54AM +0100, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:
> freeman  writes:
> > I use folder-hooks to archive mail after n weeks. Here is the l-debusr
> > hook:
> >
> > folder-hook l-debusr 'push
> > ~r>12w!~F+archive/l-debusr'
> 
> I have the following for archiving old mail (>90d) in my INBOX.
> 
> folder-hook =INBOX'push 
> ~R~r>90d=Archive~A'
> 
> The  is probably what's missing in your hook.
> 
> -- 
> Nicolas

Thanx Nicolas. Initial tests are positive.

And I am signed up with mutt-users which is a pleasure that got undone back
in the past somewhere.  :)

Thanx Sjoerd. Always nice to be among thoughtful people after flame wars on
forums. :\

Interesting that I had part of the tag. I wonder if it has evolved? Or maybe
I got it wrong.  I'll never remember!

Either way the problem didn't occur in all mailboxes for which I copied and
edited the original hook.

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Re: mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-16 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
freeman  writes:
> I use folder-hooks to archive mail after n weeks. Here is the l-debusr
> hook:
>
> folder-hook l-debusr 'push
> ~r>12w!~F+archive/l-debusr'

I have the following for archiving old mail (>90d) in my INBOX.

folder-hook =INBOX  'push 
~R~r>90d=Archive~A'

The  is probably what's missing in your hook.

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Re: mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-16 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman

freeman schreef:
fic questions not relating

to Debian.


Will do. Sorry if I was off topic.


I don't think it was meant as a "be ontopic"-remark. As mutt is part of 
Debian, there certainly is sense in discussing mutt here.
Yet, posting to the mutt mailing list most likely improves your chances 
of getting a usable answer ;)


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Re: mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-15 Thread freeman
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 02:17:21PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:41:55AM -0800, freeman wrote:
> > Duly, this only happens in my debian-user mailbox. (I sort with procmail.)
> > 
> > The first unread email is always marked with a D, when I enter my "l-debusr"
> > box.  I have to jump to it by number and undelete it.  I index by date so it
> > is usually the newest or close to.
> > 
> > :8
> > 
> > I use folder-hooks to archive mail after n weeks. Here is the l-debusr
> > hook:
> > 
> > folder-hook l-debusr 'push
> > ~r>12w!~F+archive/l-debusr'
> > 
> > I am running mutt 1.5.20-5 and mutt-patched 1.5.20-5 on squeeze.
> > 
> > Maybe mutt morsels might mitigate my muse!
> 
> Try the mutt-users mailing list for mutt specific questions not relating
> to Debian.
> 
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> Chris.
> 
Will do. Sorry if I was off topic.

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Re: mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:41:55AM -0800, freeman wrote:
> Duly, this only happens in my debian-user mailbox. (I sort with procmail.)
> 
> The first unread email is always marked with a D, when I enter my "l-debusr"
> box.  I have to jump to it by number and undelete it.  I index by date so it
> is usually the newest or close to.
> 
> :8
> 
> I use folder-hooks to archive mail after n weeks. Here is the l-debusr
> hook:
> 
> folder-hook l-debusr 'push
> ~r>12w!~F+archive/l-debusr'
> 
> I am running mutt 1.5.20-5 and mutt-patched 1.5.20-5 on squeeze.
> 
> Maybe mutt morsels might mitigate my muse!

Try the mutt-users mailing list for mutt specific questions not relating
to Debian.

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mutt deletes 1st unread

2009-12-15 Thread freeman
Duly, this only happens in my debian-user mailbox. (I sort with procmail.)

The first unread email is always marked with a D, when I enter my "l-debusr"
box.  I have to jump to it by number and undelete it.  I index by date so it
is usually the newest or close to.

:8

I use folder-hooks to archive mail after n weeks. Here is the l-debusr
hook:

folder-hook l-debusr 'push
~r>12w!~F+archive/l-debusr'

I am running mutt 1.5.20-5 and mutt-patched 1.5.20-5 on squeeze.

Maybe mutt morsels might mitigate my muse!

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