Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-05 Thread Paul Cartwright 
On 01/05/2014 03:37 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Choose 1-7 []: 6
> $ dpkg -S select-editor
> sensible-utils: /usr/bin/select-editor
> sensible-utils: /usr/share/man/man1/select-editor.1.gz
>
> As I see its changelog, it is only in testing/sid:
so, it isn't in wheezy .. that's what I figured out:)
# select-editor
-su: select-editor: command not found
root@pauls-server:~# apt-get install sensible-utils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information... Done
sensible-utils is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
root@pauls-server:~# dpkg -S select-editor
dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *select-editor*
root@pauls-server:~# cat /etc/os-r*
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="7"
VERSION="7 (wheezy)"
ID=debian
ANSI_COLOR="1;31"
HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/";
SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/";
BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.debian.org/";


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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-05 Thread Osamu Aoki 
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 11:17:24AM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-01-02, Paul Cartwright  wrote:
> > On 01/01/2014 08:01 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> >> man select-editor
> > man select-editor
> > No manual entry for select-editor
> 
> I think you need to install 'sensible-utils', which provides
> 
> /usr/bin/sensible-browser
> /usr/bin/sensible-editor
> /usr/bin/sensible-pager
> 
> I guess it's the sensible thing to do (I haven't done it!)
> 
> Oops; he said 'select-editor'.  Mmm, maybe he meant what I 'read' 'cause I
> can't find select-editor anywhere.

I never heard about it :-) but I have it here.

$ select-editor

Select an editor.  To change later, run 'select-editor'.
  1. /bin/ed
  2. /usr/bin/emacs23
  3. /usr/bin/mcedit
  4. /usr/bin/vim.basic
  5. /usr/bin/vim.gtk
  6. /usr/bin/vim.nox
  7. /usr/bin/vim.tiny

Choose 1-7 []: 6
$ dpkg -S select-editor
sensible-utils: /usr/bin/select-editor
sensible-utils: /usr/share/man/man1/select-editor.1.gz

As I see its changelog, it is only in testing/sid:

sensible-utils (0.0.9) unstable; urgency=low

  * Fix bashism in select-editor
Patch by Thorsten Glaser
Closes: #711321

 -- Anibal Monsalve Salazar   Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:19:39 +1000

sensible-utils (0.0.8) unstable; urgency=low

  * Merge 0.0.7ubuntu1
- add select-editor (Closes: #482774)
- modify sensible-editor to pick the editor from select-editor
  * Removes reference to non-existent BROWSER documentation in environ(7)
Patch by Matt Kraai
Closes: #567250
  * Commented-out Vcs-* headers
Closes: #661752
  * Standards Version is 3.9.4

 -- Anibal Monsalve Salazar   Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:27:15 +1000

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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-02 Thread Paul Cartwright 

  
  
On 01/02/2014 07:25 AM, shawn wilson
  wrote:


  No idea. I compile vim on Debian for ruby support
(command-t). Probably vim-gtk. So I'm putting this back on the
list. 
  On Jan 2, 2014 7:19 AM, "Paul Cartwright"

wrote:

  
On 01/02/2014 07:12 AM, shawn wilson wrote:


  
On Jan 1, 2014 7:43 PM, "Paul Cartwright" 

wrote:
>
> On 01/01/2014 07:00 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
> > Also perhaps:
> >
> > aptitude purge nano :-)
> >
> > Richard
> thanks, I might do that also, since I use either VI
or gedit..
>
  You do know about gvim right? 

not really.. should I?
when I try to install it I get:
 apt-get install gvim
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package gvim is a virtual package provided by:
  vim-gtk 2:7.3.547-7
  vim-gnome 2:7.3.547-7
  vim-athena 2:7.3.547-7
You should explicitly select one to install.


so, which one is right?
  

  

 ok, so synaptics actually had VIM..
here is what I now have installed..
dpkg -l|grep vim
ii  vim  
2:7.3.547-7    amd64    Vi IMproved -
enhanced vi editor
ii  vim-addon-manager
0.5.2  all  manager of addons
for the Vim editor
ii  vim-common   
2:7.3.547-7    amd64    Vi IMproved - Common
files
ii  vim-gnome
2:7.3.547-7    amd64    Vi IMproved -
enhanced vi editor - with GNOME2 GUI
ii  vim-gui-common   
2:7.3.547-7    all  Vi IMproved - Common
GUI files
ii  vim-runtime  
2:7.3.547-7    all  Vi IMproved -
Runtime files
ii  vim-scripts  
20121007   all  plugins for vim,
adding bells and whistles
ii  vim-tiny 
2:7.3.547-7    amd64    Vi IMproved -
enhanced vi editor - compact version

I tried to vim a file.. nice interface! I'll have to play with it.
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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-02 Thread shawn wilson 
No idea. I compile vim on Debian for ruby support (command-t). Probably
vim-gtk. So I'm putting this back on the list.
On Jan 2, 2014 7:19 AM, "Paul Cartwright"  wrote:

>  On 01/02/2014 07:12 AM, shawn wilson wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 1, 2014 7:43 PM, "Paul Cartwright"  wrote:
> >
> > On 01/01/2014 07:00 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
> > > Also perhaps:
> > >
> > > aptitude purge nano :-)
> > >
> > > Richard
> > thanks, I might do that also, since I use either VI or gedit..
> >
>
> You do know about gvim right?
>
> not really.. should I?
> when I try to install it I get:
>  apt-get install gvim
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Package gvim is a virtual package provided by:
>   vim-gtk 2:7.3.547-7
>   vim-gnome 2:7.3.547-7
>   vim-athena 2:7.3.547-7
> You should explicitly select one to install.
>
>
> so, which one is right?
>
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>
>

Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-02 Thread Paul Cartwright 

  
  
On 01/02/2014 07:12 AM, shawn wilson
  wrote:


  
On Jan 1, 2014 7:43 PM, "Paul Cartwright" 
wrote:
>
> On 01/01/2014 07:00 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
> > Also perhaps:
> >
> > aptitude purge nano :-)
> >
> > Richard
> thanks, I might do that also, since I use either VI or
gedit..
>
  You do know about gvim right? 

gvim, is basically vim-tiny? portable? If I travel, I either have my
linux laptop., or android tablet..

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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-02 Thread shawn wilson 
On Jan 1, 2014 7:43 PM, "Paul Cartwright"  wrote:
>
> On 01/01/2014 07:00 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
> > Also perhaps:
> >
> > aptitude purge nano :-)
> >
> > Richard
> thanks, I might do that also, since I use either VI or gedit..
>

You do know about gvim right?

Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-02 Thread Curt 
On 2014-01-02, Paul Cartwright  wrote:
> On 01/01/2014 08:01 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>> man select-editor
> man select-editor
> No manual entry for select-editor

I think you need to install 'sensible-utils', which provides

/usr/bin/sensible-browser
/usr/bin/sensible-editor
/usr/bin/sensible-pager

I guess it's the sensible thing to do (I haven't done it!)

Oops; he said 'select-editor'.  Mmm, maybe he meant what I 'read' 'cause I
can't find select-editor anywhere.


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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread Paul Cartwright 
On 01/01/2014 08:01 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> man select-editor
man select-editor
No manual entry for select-editor


that's OK, I already did the .bashrc EDITOR=vi

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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread John Hasler 
man select-editor
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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread Paul Cartwright 
On 01/01/2014 07:00 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
> Also perhaps:
>
> aptitude purge nano :-)
>
> Richard
thanks, I might do that also, since I use either VI or gedit..

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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread Richard Hector 
On 02/01/14 04:20, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> 01.01.2014 15:09, Andreas Rönnquist:
>> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 08:59:24 -0500,
>> Paul Cartwright wrote:
>>
>>> ok, so I have a wheezy setup. When I do a crontab -e to EDIT my
>>> crontab, it brings up a nano session. I'm a VI kind guy, how do I
>>> change that so VI comes up??
>>>
>>
>> It gets the editor from the EDITOR environment variable - to change to
>> vi, do something like
>>
>> export EDITOR=vi
>>
>> - too keep this you can for example do it in your .bashrc.
> 
> ... and if you rather want to change the system default, do
> 
> update-alternatives --config editor
> 
> as root.

Also perhaps:

aptitude purge nano :-)

Richard



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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread Paul Cartwright 
On 01/01/2014 10:20 AM, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
> ... and if you rather want to change the system default, do
>
> update-alternatives --config editor
>
> as root.
>
> P.S.: Sorry Andeas for the PM. Shouldn't have happened, but the brain
> controlling my fingers seems to be still stuck in 2013...
thank you , that worked! nice command..

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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread Markus Schönhaber 
01.01.2014 15:09, Andreas Rönnquist:
> On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 08:59:24 -0500,
> Paul Cartwright wrote:
> 
>> ok, so I have a wheezy setup. When I do a crontab -e to EDIT my
>> crontab, it brings up a nano session. I'm a VI kind guy, how do I
>> change that so VI comes up??
>>
> 
> It gets the editor from the EDITOR environment variable - to change to
> vi, do something like
> 
> export EDITOR=vi
> 
> - too keep this you can for example do it in your .bashrc.

... and if you rather want to change the system default, do

update-alternatives --config editor

as root.

P.S.: Sorry Andeas for the PM. Shouldn't have happened, but the brain
controlling my fingers seems to be still stuck in 2013...

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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread Carson Chittom 
Paul Cartwright  writes:

> ok, so I have a wheezy setup. When I do a crontab -e to EDIT my crontab,
> it brings up a nano session. I'm a VI kind guy, how do I change that so
> VI comes up??

Most generally, you should set the environmental variable EDITOR to be
your favorite editor.  For example, my ~/.profile has the line
EDITOR=emacs

On Debian specifically, you can use update-alternatives(8) to change
what /etc/alternatives/editor symbolically links to.


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Re: nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread Andreas Rönnquist 
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 08:59:24 -0500,
Paul Cartwright wrote:

>ok, so I have a wheezy setup. When I do a crontab -e to EDIT my
>crontab, it brings up a nano session. I'm a VI kind guy, how do I
>change that so VI comes up??
>

It gets the editor from the EDITOR environment variable - to change to
vi, do something like

export EDITOR=vi

- too keep this you can for example do it in your .bashrc.

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nano vs VI

2014-01-01 Thread Paul Cartwright 
ok, so I have a wheezy setup. When I do a crontab -e to EDIT my crontab,
it brings up a nano session. I'm a VI kind guy, how do I change that so
VI comes up??

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