Re: need kino. or a substitute that can work with a sony hi-8 metal720 by handicam.

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:47 PM Klaus Singvogel
 wrote:
>
> gene heskett wrote:
> > Installed all that I *think* about 30 pkgs, dmesg says new device fw1, and
> > it exists now in /dev/, but VLC can't open device, see logs but other than
> > the plug in report, no connection.
>
> The advice of Jeffrey Walton to change the permission would be my first help 
> too.
>
> fw1 indicates to be a FireWire device, so I'm out; never possessed one.
>
> But I stumble about the uncommon naming: usually it's fw0, not fw1.
> Do you have a second FireWire device already plugged in, or can the naming 
> somehow else be explained (by slot number)?
> If not, I would suggest a reboot of the machine, because I assume a jam in 
> the kernel then.
>
> But as said, no experience here.
>
> Maybe someone else can step in?

It didn't occur to me fw was firewire. According to this old Ubuntu
page, there is a firewire group.[1] I can't find a similar Debian wiki
page.

If Gene is already in the firewire group, then I would look at udev
rules. udev may be setting permissions to root:root instead of
root:firewire.

[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/oldPages/Firewire01

Jeff

Re: need kino. or a substitute that can work with a sony hi-8 metal720 by handicam.

[Klaus Singvogel]

gene heskett wrote:
> Installed all that I *think* about 30 pkgs, dmesg says new device fw1, and
> it exists now in /dev/, but VLC can't open device, see logs but other than
> the plug in report, no connection.

The advice of Jeffrey Walton to change the permission would be my first help 
too.

fw1 indicates to be a FireWire device, so I'm out; never possessed one.

But I stumble about the uncommon naming: usually it's fw0, not fw1.
Do you have a second FireWire device already plugged in, or can the naming 
somehow else be explained (by slot number)?
If not, I would suggest a reboot of the machine, because I assume a jam in the 
kernel then.

But as said, no experience here.

Maybe someone else can step in?

Best regards,
Klaus.


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Klaus Singvogel
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Re: need kino. or a substitute that can work with a sony hi-8 metal720 by handicam.

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:08 PM gene heskett  wrote:
>
> On 1/11/23 12:17, Klaus Singvogel wrote:
> > gene heskett wrote:
> >> What happened to kino? That was an all in one package, and while kdenlive 
> >> is
> >> pretty, it can't capture from the camera...
> >
> > Thought everyone is using VLC for video stuff.
> > At least vlc is capable to do so, see screenshot.
> >
> Installed all that I *think* about 30 pkgs, dmesg says new device fw1,
> and it exists now in /dev/, but VLC can't open device, see logs but
> other than the plug in report, no connection.
>
> I'm plumb green as grass. And spoiled by my experience with kino from
> years back. Help!

I would check which group owns the new device in /dev, and then make
sure you are part of that group.

I often encounter a similar problem when trying to use a modem for
Caller Id. I forget to put myself in the dialout group, and I can't
open the modem.

Jeff

Re: need kino. or a substitute that can work with a sony hi-8 metal720 by handicam.

[gene heskett]

On 1/11/23 12:17, Klaus Singvogel wrote:

gene heskett wrote:

What happened to kino? That was an all in one package, and while kdenlive is
pretty, it can't capture from the camera...


Thought everyone is using VLC for video stuff.
At least vlc is capable to do so, see screenshot.

Best regards,
Klaus.
Installed all that I *think* about 30 pkgs, dmesg says new device fw1, 
and it exists now in /dev/, but VLC can't open device, see logs but 
other than the plug in report, no connection.


I'm plumb green as grass. And spoiled by my experience with kino from 
years back. Help!


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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