Re: needed: a way to eliminate wasted disk space due to unneeded locale files

2020-10-15 Thread David Wright
On Wed 14 Oct 2020 at 13:19:15 (-0500), Mike McClain wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 04:46:56PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> > On 10/13/20, L Godioleskky  wrote:
> > > App localepurge eliminates some, but far from all of these un-needed files
> >
> > What's it leaving behind that you would like to see additionally
> > purged? If there's not a known tweak, flag, or something for
> > localepurge, perhaps your needs could become a reportbug wish list
> > item sent to Developers.
> >
> Try this Cindy,
> find / -iname '*zh*'
> 
> I get 136 hits after running localepurge and each points to a
> directory with lots of other languages.

I would advise you to consider only the files appearing in
/var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums for possible elimination, rather
than treating the entire filesystem as fair game. By that means,
any accidents can be rectified from easily available .deb files.

I assume the sorts of files you're interested in are those that match
'LC_MESSAGES.*\.mo'. On my system (~2050 packages, no DE/DM), those
7627 files total 358MB, though I'd certainly want to keep the 5½MB
of en_GB ones.

How important you consider this when compared with the 8.7GB occupied
by /usr/, I don't know. (BTW, I've made no allowance for using wc and
MB with LC_MESSAGES, but du and either GiB or GB with /usr/.)

> During the Afghan war the American news reported how many Americans
> had died over there. It seems to me that a good newsman would have
> also reported the Afghani death count but I never heard one.- MM

I don't understand what MM means by "newsman". There are many
journalists (and inhabitants) working at great risk to their own
lives (and families), reporting from the "other side" of war zones.
How much of that reporting is carried by American news outlets
is determined by the outlets' editorial policies. Is that what
"newsman" might refer to?

Cheers,
David.



Re: needed: a way to eliminate wasted disk space due to unneeded locale files

2020-10-14 Thread Mike McClain
On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 04:46:56PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 10/13/20, L Godioleskky  wrote:
> > App localepurge eliminates some, but far from all of these un-needed files
>
> What's it leaving behind that you would like to see additionally
> purged? If there's not a known tweak, flag, or something for
> localepurge, perhaps your needs could become a reportbug wish list
> item sent to Developers.
>
Try this Cindy,
find / -iname '*zh*'

I get 136 hits after running localepurge and each points to a
directory with lots of other languages.
Be Well,
Mike
--
During the Afghan war the American news reported how many Americans
had died over there. It seems to me that a good newsman would have
also reported the Afghani death count but I never heard one.- MM



Re: needed: a way to eliminate wasted disk space due to unneeded locale files

2020-10-13 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 10/13/20, L Godioleskky  wrote:
> There are hundreds of MBytes of wasted disk space due to un-needed locale
> files.
> Most users only use one or two languages, so why should they devote huge
> amounts of disk space to locale files they dont need/use ?
>
> App localepurge eliminates some, but far from all of these un-needed files


What's it leaving behind that you would like to see additionally
purged? If there's not a known tweak, flag, or something for
localepurge, perhaps your needs could become a reportbug wish list
item sent to Developers.

This post caught my eye because I just tripped over localepurge last
month. It kicked booty on initial install, and now automatically
purges with each upgrade and new installs. After that initial wipeout
session, subsequent purges are (understandably) pretty small in
comparison.

The caveat is that ONCE in a while something's not displaying in
another language. When I'm up for it, I'll be poking around to learn
the protocol for updating an existing install's configuration so that
it keeps its fingers off those certain languages that frequent my own
Internet travels..

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *



needed: a way to eliminate wasted disk space due to unneeded locale files

2020-10-13 Thread L Godioleskky
There are hundreds of MBytes of wasted disk space due to un-needed locale
files.
Most users only use one or two languages, so why should they devote huge
amounts of disk space to locale files they dont need/use ?

App localepurge eliminates some, but far from all of these un-needed files