Re: Galeon, gecko, etc. (was Re: netscape in bw)

2000-10-18 Thread Bryan Walton
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 08:42:07AM +1000, John Griffiths wrote:

 if its a light gecko based browser your after i'd recommend checking out 
 skipstone.. tabbed mulitple browse panes are v. cool IMHO
 
 http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/

I would have to second the idea of Skipstone.  I discovered it about a week ago 
and am delighted!  It has everything I was hoping for in Mozilla: light, fast, 
plus it doesn't need any Gnome or KDE components.  Check it out!

-Bryan



Re: netscape in bw

2000-10-17 Thread Rino Mardo
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 09:03:13PM +0200 or thereabouts, Veit Waltemath wrote:
 Change to 16 or 32bpp. This is an know behaviour from Netscape.
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only 16 or 32?  what about 24?  i'm running at 24bpp and it still is in black
and white.


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Re: netscape in bw

2000-10-17 Thread John Travis
Rino Mardo wrote:
 
 On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 09:03:13PM +0200 or thereabouts, Veit Waltemath wrote:
  Change to 16 or 32bpp. This is an know behaviour from Netscape.
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 only 16 or 32?  what about 24?  i'm running at 24bpp and it still is in black
 and white.
 

Yes :-(.  Strange how you can go down or up to fix the problem eh?

jt



Re: netscape in bw

2000-10-17 Thread kmself
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:01:41AM +0400, Rino Mardo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 09:03:13PM +0200 or thereabouts, Veit Waltemath wrote:
  Change to 16 or 32bpp. This is an know behaviour from Netscape.
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 only 16 or 32?  what about 24?  i'm running at 24bpp and it still is in black
 and white.

Netscape displays BW icons at 24 bpp.  It's a bug.

Set your X session to *either* 16 or 32 bpp to get colored icons.

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Re: netscape in bw

2000-10-17 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:13:00AM -0700 or thereabouts, kmself@ix.netcom.com 
wrote:
  
  only 16 or 32?  what about 24?  i'm running at 24bpp and it still is in 
  black
  and white.
 
 Netscape displays BW icons at 24 bpp.  It's a bug.
 
 Set your X session to *either* 16 or 32 bpp to get colored icons.
 
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hmm, thanks for the inputs.  i'm using Galeon now or was forced to use it
because of this bug.  anyone who is still having problems with netscape should
switch to either Galeon instead.  just my 2cents.

btw, i noticed my pgp is still flakey. still under construction.


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Re: netscape in bw

2000-10-17 Thread Sanjeev Gupta


On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Rino Mardo wrote:

 hmm, thanks for the inputs.  i'm using Galeon now or was forced to use it
 because of this bug.  anyone who is still having problems with netscape should
 switch to either Galeon instead.  just my 2cents.

What is galeon?  A browser?

I am looking for a www browser, graphical, no java, but
should support mpeg plugins.  Something light, for a kiosk.

Thanks



Re: netscape in bw

2000-10-17 Thread Rino Mardo
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 02:48:02AM -0500 or thereabouts, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Rino Mardo wrote:
 
  hmm, thanks for the inputs.  i'm using Galeon now or was forced to use it
  because of this bug.  anyone who is still having problems with netscape 
  should
  switch to either Galeon instead.  just my 2cents.
 
 What is galeon?  A browser?
 
 I am looking for a www browser, graphical, no java, but
 should support mpeg plugins.  Something light, for a kiosk.
 
 Thanks
 

yes it's a lightweight browser but i'm not sure if it has mpeg support.
there is also mozilla aka. netscape 6 if i'm not mistaken.


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Re: netscape in bw

2000-10-17 Thread Kristian Rink




switch to either Galeon instead.  just my 2cents.


What is galeon?  A browser?

I am looking for a www browser, graphical, no java, but
should support mpeg plugins.  Something light, for a kiosk.

Thanks



yes it's a lightweight browser but i'm not sure if it has mpeg support.
there is also mozilla aka. netscape 6 if i'm not mistaken.




Actually, the galeon browser utilizes the Mozilla HTML rendering engine 
(gecko) to display sites, so if you want to get galeon running, you'll 
not get very far without having a current release of Mozilla installed 
(galeon in version 0.7.7 needs the latest M18 release to be picked up at 
www.mozilla.org) :) Thus, galeon *really* is a light browser system, but 
I *think* it should work well with the plug-ins installed in Mozilla 
(which works fine here with Netscape 4.x- plugs, like flashplayer, for 
example). So all you probably need to do is to find yourself a good 
mpeg-plugin. :))


Tchau,

Kris

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Galeon, gecko, etc. (was Re: netscape in bw)

2000-10-17 Thread kmself
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 01:35:42PM +0200, Kristian Rink ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
  What is galeon?  A browser?

...

 Actually, the galeon browser utilizes the Mozilla HTML rendering engine 
 (gecko) to display sites, so if you want to get galeon running, you'll 
 not get very far without having a current release of Mozilla installed 
 (galeon in version 0.7.7 needs the latest M18 release to be picked up at 
 www.mozilla.org) :) Thus, galeon *really* is a light browser system, but 
 I *think* it should work well with the plug-ins installed in Mozilla 
 (which works fine here with Netscape 4.x- plugs, like flashplayer, for 
 example). So all you probably need to do is to find yourself a good 
 mpeg-plugin. :))

There's been some discussion of this on the Galeon user list.  AFAIU,
Plug-in support is *not* part of Gecko, but a seperate issue.  It's not
fully (or even partially?) implemented in Galeon yet.

Galeon sucks in different ways than other browsers.  I happen to be
pretty happy with the rendering quality of Netscape 4.x, though
stability and memleaks suck.  Mozilla just plain doesn't do it.
Konqueror would be good stripped of a few KDE issues, such as the
floating title bar.  Actually, last I tried it, it just plain didn't
work on one of my systems.

I run an older PII-180/96M at home.  Galeon works, but it's not as
lightweight as some would have you believe, and stability varies
greatly.  I'm finding text-mode browsers more and more attractive as
time goes by.  Primary limitation with them is the ability to spawn new
windows easily.  w3m is my preferred choice.

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Re: Galeon, gecko, etc. (was Re: netscape in bw)

2000-10-17 Thread John Griffiths
At 02:31 PM 10/17/2000 -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 01:35:42PM +0200, Kristian Rink ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
  What is galeon?  A browser?

...

if its a light gecko based browser your after i'd recommend checking out 
skipstone.. tabbed mulitple browse panes are v. cool IMHO

http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/

i am in no way affiliated with skipstone.. i just think its easier to get going 
than galeon and does a lot of what i want.



Re: Galeon, gecko, etc. (was Re: netscape in bw)

2000-10-17 Thread Jeff Howie
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 02:31:48PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 I run an older PII-180/96M at home.  Galeon works, but it's not as
 lightweight as some would have you believe, and stability varies
 greatly.  I'm finding text-mode browsers more and more attractive as
 time goes by.  Primary limitation with them is the ability to spawn new
 windows easily.  w3m is my preferred choice.

I like w3m, but am using links as my main browser now. Can spawn new
windows easily, background d/l'ding, good frames support, 
Give it a try:

http://links.browser.org



netscape in bw

2000-10-16 Thread Pat Mahoney
I just installed netscape on woody (apt-get install netscape):

$ dpkg --get-selections | grep netscape

netscape
netscape-base-4
netscape-base-475
netscape-jave-475

It works ok, but the icons on the buttons are in 1-bit color.  I am
running X in 24bpp mode.  Any ideas?

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Re: netscape in bw

2000-10-16 Thread Veit Waltemath
Change to 16 or 32bpp. This is an know behaviour from Netscape.
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