Not a debian question, I apologize
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Alvin Oga wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Tyson Varosyan wrote: Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I still providing entertainment of your sillyness .. #1: Edit your httpd.conf file. Find the line that reads "listen :80" and replace it with the IP of website #1 followed by the port. Ie: listen 206.110.16.25:80 that is stupidity at work .. and not required #2: Copy your httpd.conf file and give it a new name like httpd#2.conf #3: Edit httpd#2.conf and edit the Listen command with the IP and Port of your second website. more silly stupidity on your part to have fake.com and real.com #4: Also Edit the DocumentRoot statement with a path to the root directory of your second website. (Obviously create this new directory) hey he got one right #7 In the command window, browse to the folder containing apache.exe #8 run apache -f "C:\Progra~1\Apache~2\Apache2\conf\httpd#2.conf" more silly stupidity at work ... - this is not debian related list Isn't it? - this is not apache related list Bingo! You have 2 instances of Apache server running on your box, each with it's own config file and it's own root directory. you have that by default if you know how to configure apache Katipo and Alvin, feel free to read this procedure and pass it off as your own in the future. you can run your own misconfigured files ... Sorry that I made you feel so incompetent. you're proving your own incompetence i doubt anybody would do what you suggest to get virtual domains working and there may be more than one solution.. but yours is not it ... and will not pass the mustard test for our customers As somebody said "¿Why the rudeness?" - thats all folks for late night entertainment c ya alvin -- Gabriel Parrondo Linux User #404138 "In theory there's no difference between the theory and the practice. In the practice There is." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Alvin Oga wrote: i'm a sucker for flamebait andpoking fun ... :-0 always fun if one doesn't emotional about it and hopefully learn a thing or 2 along the way.. AKA "Trolling". to me... it was 100% in fun .. but i guess i can see how it can also be rude when one makes fun of somebody else at their expense AKA "Trolling". i saw what happend to that part of the thread .. more fun .. AKA "Successful Troll" Finally, Alvin admits why he is here. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Em Ter, 2006-01-31 às 15:22 -0800, Tyson Varosyan escreveu: > Hi Ed, > > Thanks for the response. However, I feel that you reverse-engineered the > answer here. Instead of searching for how to install multiple instances of > httpd (which is what the manual says to do), you already knew that answer > was to run multiple instances of the same installation and googled for an > article on that. > > I may be slow at times, but in my multi hour search online, I was still > unable to find an article that instructs the user, as the manual says, to > install multiple instances of httpd on Windows. Not saying that there is not > a way to do it... > Tyson Varosyan > Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.up-times.com > 206-715-TECH (8324) > > UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime > If you need more then 5mn to get this answer, I certainly would not employ you for anything, too much time. Michel.
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hi ya kent On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Kent West wrote: > Alvin, you and I have both been on this list long enough that it's > obvious to me that you're a smart guy with lots of valuable knowledge > and skills. But why be rude? yeah... i guess it's easy to confuse "rude" with "poking fun at um" i'm a sucker for flamebait andpoking fun ... :-0 always fun if one doesn't emotional about it and hopefully learn a thing or 2 along the way.. some folks are defensive... i wonder why, while others just move on and have beer and figure it out > And if you know enough about Apache to know that the way he is doing it > is wrong, then surely you know the right way to do it? yup.. but since the thread got worst... no answers will be forthcoming however, it's all readily available in yahoo/google ... we all spent our time hrs,days,weeks to find the answers if nobody hands it to us on a platinum platter at the 'palace of "pick-your-noun" ' .. :-0 and after all of that hard r/d .. write a [atheist]damm howto so that nobody else needs to do that r/d searching again > Why not just > provide the answer rather than poking fun and being rude? to me... it was 100% in fun .. but i guess i can see how it can also be rude when one makes fun of somebody else at their expense there was say over a dozen things wrong with the thread before the 3rd post to the list .. :-) and inaccurate "solution" will be so stamped .. :-) or at least leave a cloud of uncertainty on the next reader to staumbles on this entertaining thread > At the risk of > seriously offending the atheists on this list and getting flamed, I'd > suggest the world would be a better place if we'd listen to Leviticus > 19:14: "Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the > blind." i saw what happend to that part of the thread .. more fun .. entertaining.. c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 03:22:08PM -0800, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > Hi Ed, > > Thanks for the response. However, I feel that you reverse-engineered the > answer here. Instead of searching for how to install multiple instances of > httpd (which is what the manual says to do), you already knew that answer > was to run multiple instances of the same installation and googled for an > article on that. No "reverse engineering" occurred. Sometimes "less is more" with search engines. This is the search I used: http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=UTF-8&q=multiple+instances+of+apache+on+Windows&qt_s=Ser%C4%89u or http://tinyurl.com/b5xfs ...but if you try with the search string "install multiple instances of apache on Windows" (without the quotes), you'd find this post, which at this time of writing is also the first result from the initial search string tried: Brian K White wrote on April 7, 2003: > I agree that you can start the same version of apache twice. But you > can not INSTALL Apache twice. This is a function of the Windows > installer technology (MSI). Apache will run from two separate > locations in the file system if one of the installations was manually > installed and configured. When you invoke the Windows installation it > will only repair or uninstall an existing installation. It does not > offer the option for a second parallel installation. Sorry for not > being more clear. With that, you'd see that you cannot run the installer multiple times as MSI files don't give you that ability. Efficient use of Google would have saved you from a great deal of frustration (and a bit of getting bashed here). :) Perhaps the apache documentation is misleading; regardless, that'd be an issue better brought up with them. Open source software is made better by the community of users using it. If you feel that the documentation is unclear, tell them. Such projects love getting suggestions or patches sent in to improve the software or documentation. Perhaps it was written with the assumption that people running apache in Windows would understand what "installing multiple copies" meant. I can't say as I'm not a member of the "Apache Software Foundation." Since this thread has toned down a bit with no one being referred to as "assholes" anymore, I'm bowing out of this discussion. As long as something was learned, this little excercise was worthwhile. I also am "bowing out" as I don't want to see this follow the trend of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@v3, 401 4rt f1l3z, or those damn [EMAIL PROTECTED] that fight with each other on the Debian lists continuing... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Hi Ed, Thanks for the response. However, I feel that you reverse-engineered the answer here. Instead of searching for how to install multiple instances of httpd (which is what the manual says to do), you already knew that answer was to run multiple instances of the same installation and googled for an article on that. I may be slow at times, but in my multi hour search online, I was still unable to find an article that instructs the user, as the manual says, to install multiple instances of httpd on Windows. Not saying that there is not a way to do it... Tyson Varosyan Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.up-times.com 206-715-TECH (8324) UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime -Original Message- From: Edward Shornock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:14 PM To: Debian User List Subject: Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff... On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:12:12AM -0800, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > Yes, I did google and search forums before posting here. Please, feel free > to post any google results that explain how to install multiple instances of > httpd on a Windows machine (like the manual states.) A quick Google search yielded: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows/brows e_thread/thread/e101a3e5b5ae9ed8/e2aabe3a06e72b1e#d2bd5018b0c6dca8 or http://tinyurl.com/bnc94 >From the link I posted earlier, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html "Often, the person telling you to do a search has the manual or the web page with the information you need open, and is looking at it as he or she types. These replies mean that he thinks (a) the information you need is easy to find, and (b) you will learn more if you seek out the information than if you have it spoon-fed to you. You shouldn't be offended by this; by hacker standards, your respondent is showing you a rough kind of respect simply by not ignoring you. You should instead be thankful for this grandmotherly kindness." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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According to Tyson Varosyan, > Given the fact that Katipo and Alvin were the only ones to reply to this > thread and nether proved to know anything about how to resolve my issue, I > thought that I should post the resolution here so that others looking for > the answer later would not have to bother the resident smart-asses on this > board. > > Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, ... Just a word to the wise (and especially the wise who have not yet posted). You'd get more people to read your question if you gave a subject line that's more relevant. You'd get more people to read your solution if you gave a subject line starting with SOLVED: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tyson Varosyan wrote: Thierry, did you read their posts to me? Assholes, is a gentle adjective used to describe people that respond in that manner to a request for help. Tyson Varosyan Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.up-times.com 206-715-TECH (8324) UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime -Original Message- From: thierry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:56 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff... Tyson Varosyan wrote: Given the fact that Katipo and Alvin were the only ones to reply to this thread and nether proved to know anything about how to resolve my issue, I thought that I should post the resolution here so that others looking for the answer later would not have to bother the resident smart-asses on this board. Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I did so with the assumption that there would be many Apache users here and that the more experienced ones may know how to help me in Windows and Linux. That being said, the Apache manual is a bit misleading in that it says that in order to accomplish what I needed, httpd would have to be installed multiple times. However, when running the installation program on the machine that already had it installed, you are confronted with a "repair" or "uninstall" options - installation of another instance is not an option. I felt rather thick-headed after 4+ hours of research into the problem. It seems that Virtual Hosts work for most people, so this issue is not discussed very much on the support forums. Unfortunately for me, the scripts that we run refer to paths in a way that does not allow them to work properly under Virtual Hosts. Cutting to the chaise, I should have thought of the solution sooner, but the idea eventually came to me. Instead of installing httpd multiple times, I wonder if the same installation can be executed multiple times with different variables. After reading the manual and messing around with the configuration script, I finally got it to work. #1: Edit your httpd.conf file. Find the line that reads "listen :80" and replace it with the IP of website #1 followed by the port. Ie: listen 206.110.16.25:80 #2: Copy your httpd.conf file and give it a new name like httpd#2.conf #3: Edit httpd#2.conf and edit the Listen command with the IP and Port of your second website. #4: Also Edit the DocumentRoot statement with a path to the root directory of your second website. (Obviously create this new directory) #5 Save the file. #6 Click START, RUN, type in CMD and click OK. #7 In the command window, browse to the folder containing apache.exe #8 run apache -f "C:\Progra~1\Apache~2\Apache2\conf\httpd#2.conf" Bingo! You have 2 instances of Apache server running on your box, each with it's own config file and it's own root directory. Katipo and Alvin, feel free to read this procedure and pass it off as your own in the future. Sorry that I made you feel so incompetent. Being a Systems Admin for a multitude of customers ranging from Dental Clinics to 5000+ server Datacenters, I have not come into much contact with Apache. I thought you assholes, could serve to provide some help with this obvious error in the Apache documentation, but instead I reinforced my belief in the reasons why most people use software that has documentation and phone numbers to call for help. Tyson Varosyan Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.up-times.com 206-715-TECH (8324) UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime -Original Message- From: Katipo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:59 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff... Alvin Oga wrote: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Tyson Varosyan wrote: At the risk of having my hand slapped I will ask, since I bet there are quite a few Apache users on this board. ... I am using Windows 2000 and Apache 2.0.44 ... Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. ... no wonder :-) The only way out of that one is a lead aspro. Beyond hand slap material. On this newsgroup, people usually don't talk of assholes, or other things like you use in your posting. A good way to get help again, who knows..., would be to apologize to the people you insulted. Thierry True enough, I had not read the complete thread, and I must agree that the way you were answered to is not what we are used to on this list. Yet, when it happens, we just tell people that they went over the line of good behaviour. I wich to end this thread, as it is not doing anything good now, by telling you that, here we usually have rules, and that by send
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:58:12 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > Kent West wrote: > > >> At the risk of > >> seriously offending the atheists on this list and getting flamed, I'd > >> suggest the world would be a better place if we'd listen to Leviticus > >> 19:14: "Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the > >> blind." > > This was originally written for the Jews only, but it should apply to > > any people, regardles of religion :-) > > Hell, as an Atheist on the list lemme give a hearty "Amen" to the > sentiment. Ramen A > > -- > Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your > PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. > ---+- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > pgpP3RbSKXOtZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:12:12AM -0800, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > Yes, I did google and search forums before posting here. Please, feel free > to post any google results that explain how to install multiple instances of > httpd on a Windows machine (like the manual states.) A quick Google search yielded: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows/browse_thread/thread/e101a3e5b5ae9ed8/e2aabe3a06e72b1e#d2bd5018b0c6dca8 or http://tinyurl.com/bnc94 From the link I posted earlier, http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html "Often, the person telling you to do a search has the manual or the web page with the information you need open, and is looking at it as he or she types. These replies mean that he thinks (a) the information you need is easy to find, and (b) you will learn more if you seek out the information than if you have it spoon-fed to you. You shouldn't be offended by this; by hacker standards, your respondent is showing you a rough kind of respect simply by not ignoring you. You should instead be thankful for this grandmotherly kindness." signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Kent, I belong to about 10 other mailing lists. Various car clubs, sport tuners, cultural association, etc. I have never had my head torn off this bad for a marginally off-topic post. It's not like I posted here to ask how to troubleshoot the MAS to ECU link on my Mitsubishi 3000GT... Granted, the question was pretty basic, but given the verbiage in the manual "install another copy of httpd", I hope that others can see why it was confusing. Being ignored is one thing. Seeing reply posts saying something to the effect of, "Your post does not meet the guidelines, please do not post off-topic" would be fine too. But getting smart-ass comments with cheap shots at my title, etc. is ridiculous. What's more shocking is seeing people here defend those actions. I will make a point to post on-topic from now on... Tyson Varosyan Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.up-times.com 206-715-TECH (8324) UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime -Original Message- From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:39 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff... Tyson Varosyan wrote: >Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I >did so with the assumption that there would be many Apache users here and >that the more experienced ones may know how to help me in Windows and Linux. > > >I reinforced my belief in the >reasons why most people use software that has documentation and phone >numbers to call for help. > > Just to make it clear, your problem is with Apache and Windows, not with Debian. (Although I agree with you that the responses you got were offensive, even if they were "technically" appropriate.) (And I personally don't have an issue with the rare off-topic post on this list if there's a good chance that this list can provide the answer. Unfortunately, in your case, this list apparently could not provide the answer, and the response you should have gotten is silence or a polite redirection rather than the rudeness you received. (I now expect to get flamed, but that's okay; it happens.)) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Tyson Varosyan wrote: > At the risk of having my hand slapped that says it all. He asked knowing he'd likely get slapped and he did. One should not be surprised by predictable results. And one should certainly not be offended and resort to name-calling when those predictable results are not what one hoped for. Frankly, he asked for it and got it. If he can'thandle it thats his problem. On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:39:26 -0600 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Just to make it clear, your problem is with Apache and Windows, not with > Debian. > > (Although I agree with you that the responses you got were offensive, > even if they were "technically" appropriate.) I don't think they were offensive responses, but humorous. Maybe misguided. someone should have said "this is a debian list, please point yourself to apache." but is it really worth the effort to bother to tell him what he should obviously already know? When faced with annoying posts from left field, levity is better than completely ignoring him. > > (And I personally don't have an issue with the rare off-topic post on > this list if there's a good chance that this list can provide the > answer. Unfortunately, in your case, this list apparently could not > provide the answer, and the response you should have gotten is silence > or a polite redirection rather than the rudeness you received. (I now > expect to get flamed, but that's okay; it happens.)) engage flame-throwers. seriously though, I agree that occaisional off-topic posts are okay. We all benefit from learning. .02 A > > -- > Kent > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > pgpt90p014HZ8.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Kent West wrote: At the risk of seriously offending the atheists on this list and getting flamed, I'd suggest the world would be a better place if we'd listen to Leviticus 19:14: "Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind." This was originally written for the Jews only, but it should apply to any people, regardles of religion :-) Hell, as an Atheist on the list lemme give a hearty "Amen" to the sentiment. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Kent West wrote: At the risk of seriously offending the atheists on this list and getting flamed, I'd suggest the world would be a better place if we'd listen to Leviticus 19:14: "Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind." This was originally written for the Jews only, but it should apply to any people, regardles of religion :-) Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Alvin Oga wrote: >On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > > >>Sorry that I made you feel so incompetent. >> >> > >you're proving your own incompetence > >i doubt anybody would do what you suggest to get virtual domains working > >and there may be more than one solution.. but yours is not it ... >and will not pass the mustard test for our customers > >- thats all folks for late night entertainment > >c ya >alvin > > Alvin, you and I have both been on this list long enough that it's obvious to me that you're a smart guy with lots of valuable knowledge and skills. But why be rude? And if you know enough about Apache to know that the way he is doing it is wrong, then surely you know the right way to do it? Why not just provide the answer rather than poking fun and being rude? At the risk of seriously offending the atheists on this list and getting flamed, I'd suggest the world would be a better place if we'd listen to Leviticus 19:14: "Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind." -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tyson Varosyan wrote: >Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I >did so with the assumption that there would be many Apache users here and >that the more experienced ones may know how to help me in Windows and Linux. > > >I reinforced my belief in the >reasons why most people use software that has documentation and phone >numbers to call for help. > > Just to make it clear, your problem is with Apache and Windows, not with Debian. (Although I agree with you that the responses you got were offensive, even if they were "technically" appropriate.) (And I personally don't have an issue with the rare off-topic post on this list if there's a good chance that this list can provide the answer. Unfortunately, in your case, this list apparently could not provide the answer, and the response you should have gotten is silence or a polite redirection rather than the rudeness you received. (I now expect to get flamed, but that's okay; it happens.)) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>From "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" (which you would do well to read in its entirety at http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ): http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#forum : Be sensitive in choosing where you ask your question. You are likely to be ignored, or written off as a loser, if you [snip]: post your question to a forum where it's off topic [snip] Hackers blow off questions that are inappropriately targeted in order to try to protect their communications channels from being drowned in irrelevance. You don't want this to happen to you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tyson Varosyan wrote: > > Given the fact that Katipo and Alvin were the only ones to reply to this > thread and nether proved to know anything about how to resolve my issue, I > thought that I should post the resolution here so that others looking for > the answer later would not have to bother the resident smart-asses on this > board. Translation: having posted something wildly off-topic to a very high volume mailing list, and (unsurprisingly) having received no useful replies to my wildly off-topic post, I'm now going to post more off-topic material. > Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I > did so with the assumption that there would be many Apache users here and > that the more experienced ones may know how to help me in Windows and Linux. Translation: I apologized for doing something I'm not supposed to do -- but I didn't really mean it, since that guideline wasn't going to stop me. > Katipo and Alvin, feel free to read this procedure and pass it off as your > own in the future. Sorry that I made you feel so incompetent. Translation: since I got justifiably mocked for ignoring the mailing list guidelines, I'll now lash out at the people who mocked me. > Being a > Systems Admin for a multitude of customers ranging from Dental Clinics to > 5000+ server Datacenters, Translation: I am so cool. > I have not come into much contact with Apache. I > thought you assholes, could serve to provide some help with this obvious > error in the Apache documentation, but instead I reinforced my belief in the > reasons why most people use software that has documentation and phone > numbers to call for help. Translation: Since some of you "assholes" reacted negatively when I treated you with discourtesy and disrespect, and none of you answered my wildly off-topic question in a high-volume mailing list (never mind that even *on-topic* questions routinely fall through the cracks here because of the volume of traffic), it must be a failing on your part. Not only that, it must say something fundamental about free and/or open source software (other than that its users may react negatively to expressions of discourtesy such as the posting of wildly off-topic questions to a high-volume mailing list). > Tyson Varosyan > Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.up-times.com > 206-715-TECH (8324) You're not making your business look very good. -c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 05:05:20AM -0500, Edward Shornock wrote: > Guess what you did? =) At least the "assholes" (Alvin & Kapito Sorry Katipo for the typo :/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff...
Two wrongs may not make a right, but I don't particularly care, hence the tone of this reply. :P On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 12:15:02AM -0800, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > Given the fact that Katipo and Alvin were the only ones to reply to this > thread and nether proved to know anything about how to resolve my issue, While they may not have "proved" that they knew, why would you assume such? Acting like an asshat as you've done with the attempted insults is uncalled for (I say attempted because coming from the source, your "insults" don't mean squat). Actually there was a third, but who's counting? > I thought that I should post the resolution here so that others > looking for the answer later would not have to bother the resident > smart-asses on this board. Eh...NO information is better than BAD information. > Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I > did so with the assumption that there would be many Apache users here and > that the more experienced ones may know how to help me in Windows and Linux. Wellthe *correct* place to ask would have been http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html#http-users. Ironically enough, that was easily found with GOOGLE or just by going to their web site and clicking the obvious "mailing lists" link. > However, when running the installation program on the machine that > already had it installed, you are confronted with a "repair" or > "uninstall" options - installation of another instance is not an > option. Yes, that's how MSI files work--something I would hope that a paid professional that is experienced with Windows would know. > Katipo and Alvin, feel free to read this procedure and pass it off as your > own in the future. This is a Debian list, not a Windows list. That's likely why no-one responded. This ML isn't for 1) Windows support 2) Apache support running on Windows. Also, as E.S. Raymond wrote: >> Choose your forum carefully >> >> >> Be sensitive in choosing where you ask your question. You are likely >> to be ignored, or written off as a loser, if you: >> >> * post your question to a forum where it's off topic >> * post a very elementary question to a forum where advanced >>technical questions are expected, or vice-versa Guess what you did? =) At least the "assholes" (Alvin & Kapito: I don't mean that) didn't ignore you like I and everyone else did. They cared enough to give a short response while some of us were writing new Spamassassin rules to catch your future emails. OK, maybe just *I* was writing new rules...hehe. ;) > Sorry that I made you feel so incompetent. Being a Systems Admin for a > multitude of customers ranging from Dental Clinics to 5000+ server > Datacenters, I have not come into much contact with Apache. Wow11eleventyone!!1 Should we be impressed? For some reason I'm not. :/ > I thought you assholes, There's no need for the name calling. > could serve to provide some help with this obvious error in the Apache > documentation, If you had a problem with the Apache documentation, wouldn't Apache's website be the *best* place to look for information? Definitely your initial message would have been better suited for *their* mailing lists. They support Windows users, we *don't*. > but instead I reinforced my belief in the reasons why most people use > software that has documentation and phone numbers to call for help. I see. Is that why Apache is still the most used web server according to the Netcraft surveys? Reference http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html. Is that why *YOU* use Apache? I'd say the reason "most people use software that has documentation and phone numbers to call for help" (i.e., Windows) is because they're "sheep" or they don't know any better. Your resolution could have been found with 1) common sense 2) Google 3) asking on the proper forum, i.e., the Apache list(s). Side note: Per your website: > No matter what the job calls for we will design your website in a > timely and professional manner at a reasonable rate. I don't think web sites that do not validate look very professional. You may want to correct that... In the future, try to ask on the proper forum (in this case, Apache's MLs or a Windows-centric forum) and don't be so quick to refer to fellow list-members as "assholes." It does't look very "professional". ...then again neither does asking the wrong mailing list for information. ;) Please read this before asking more questions on mailing lists/web forums: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I still providing entertainment of your sillyness .. > #1: Edit your httpd.conf file. Find the line that reads "listen :80" and > replace it with the IP of website #1 followed by the port. Ie: listen > 206.110.16.25:80 that is stupidity at work .. and not required > #2: Copy your httpd.conf file and give it a new name like httpd#2.conf > #3: Edit httpd#2.conf and edit the Listen command with the IP and Port of > your second website. more silly stupidity on your part to have fake.com and real.com > #4: Also Edit the DocumentRoot statement with a path to the root directory > of your second website. (Obviously create this new directory) hey he got one right > #7 In the command window, browse to the folder containing apache.exe > #8 run apache -f "C:\Progra~1\Apache~2\Apache2\conf\httpd#2.conf" more silly stupidity at work ... - this is not debian related list - this is not apache related list > Bingo! You have 2 instances of Apache server running on your box, each with > it's own config file and it's own root directory. you have that by default if you know how to configure apache > Katipo and Alvin, feel free to read this procedure and pass it off as your > own in the future. you can run your own misconfigured files ... > Sorry that I made you feel so incompetent. you're proving your own incompetence i doubt anybody would do what you suggest to get virtual domains working and there may be more than one solution.. but yours is not it ... and will not pass the mustard test for our customers - thats all folks for late night entertainment c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff...
Tyson Varosyan wrote: Given the fact that Katipo and Alvin were the only ones to reply to this thread and nether proved to know anything about how to resolve my issue, I thought that I should post the resolution here so that others looking for the answer later would not have to bother the resident smart-asses on this board. Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I did so with the assumption that there would be many Apache users here and that the more experienced ones may know how to help me in Windows and Linux. That being said, the Apache manual is a bit misleading in that it says that in order to accomplish what I needed, httpd would have to be installed multiple times. However, when running the installation program on the machine that already had it installed, you are confronted with a "repair" or "uninstall" options - installation of another instance is not an option. I felt rather thick-headed after 4+ hours of research into the problem. It seems that Virtual Hosts work for most people, so this issue is not discussed very much on the support forums. Unfortunately for me, the scripts that we run refer to paths in a way that does not allow them to work properly under Virtual Hosts. Cutting to the chaise, I should have thought of the solution sooner, but the idea eventually came to me. Instead of installing httpd multiple times, I wonder if the same installation can be executed multiple times with different variables. After reading the manual and messing around with the configuration script, I finally got it to work. #1: Edit your httpd.conf file. Find the line that reads "listen :80" and replace it with the IP of website #1 followed by the port. Ie: listen 206.110.16.25:80 #2: Copy your httpd.conf file and give it a new name like httpd#2.conf #3: Edit httpd#2.conf and edit the Listen command with the IP and Port of your second website. #4: Also Edit the DocumentRoot statement with a path to the root directory of your second website. (Obviously create this new directory) #5 Save the file. #6 Click START, RUN, type in CMD and click OK. #7 In the command window, browse to the folder containing apache.exe #8 run apache -f "C:\Progra~1\Apache~2\Apache2\conf\httpd#2.conf" Bingo! You have 2 instances of Apache server running on your box, each with it's own config file and it's own root directory. Katipo and Alvin, feel free to read this procedure and pass it off as your own in the future. Sorry that I made you feel so incompetent. Being a Systems Admin for a multitude of customers ranging from Dental Clinics to 5000+ server Datacenters, I have not come into much contact with Apache. I thought you assholes, could serve to provide some help with this obvious error in the Apache documentation, but instead I reinforced my belief in the reasons why most people use software that has documentation and phone numbers to call for help. Tyson Varosyan Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.up-times.com 206-715-TECH (8324) UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime -Original Message- From: Katipo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:59 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff... Alvin Oga wrote: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Tyson Varosyan wrote: At the risk of having my hand slapped I will ask, since I bet there are quite a few Apache users on this board. ... I am using Windows 2000 and Apache 2.0.44 ... Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. ... no wonder :-) The only way out of that one is a lead aspro. Beyond hand slap material. On this newsgroup, people usually don't talk of assholes, or other things like you use in your posting. A good way to get help again, who knows..., would be to apologize to the people you insulted. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff...
Given the fact that Katipo and Alvin were the only ones to reply to this thread and nether proved to know anything about how to resolve my issue, I thought that I should post the resolution here so that others looking for the answer later would not have to bother the resident smart-asses on this board. Again, I apologize for posting a Windows-based problem on this board, but I did so with the assumption that there would be many Apache users here and that the more experienced ones may know how to help me in Windows and Linux. That being said, the Apache manual is a bit misleading in that it says that in order to accomplish what I needed, httpd would have to be installed multiple times. However, when running the installation program on the machine that already had it installed, you are confronted with a "repair" or "uninstall" options - installation of another instance is not an option. I felt rather thick-headed after 4+ hours of research into the problem. It seems that Virtual Hosts work for most people, so this issue is not discussed very much on the support forums. Unfortunately for me, the scripts that we run refer to paths in a way that does not allow them to work properly under Virtual Hosts. Cutting to the chaise, I should have thought of the solution sooner, but the idea eventually came to me. Instead of installing httpd multiple times, I wonder if the same installation can be executed multiple times with different variables. After reading the manual and messing around with the configuration script, I finally got it to work. #1: Edit your httpd.conf file. Find the line that reads "listen :80" and replace it with the IP of website #1 followed by the port. Ie: listen 206.110.16.25:80 #2: Copy your httpd.conf file and give it a new name like httpd#2.conf #3: Edit httpd#2.conf and edit the Listen command with the IP and Port of your second website. #4: Also Edit the DocumentRoot statement with a path to the root directory of your second website. (Obviously create this new directory) #5 Save the file. #6 Click START, RUN, type in CMD and click OK. #7 In the command window, browse to the folder containing apache.exe #8 run apache -f "C:\Progra~1\Apache~2\Apache2\conf\httpd#2.conf" Bingo! You have 2 instances of Apache server running on your box, each with it's own config file and it's own root directory. Katipo and Alvin, feel free to read this procedure and pass it off as your own in the future. Sorry that I made you feel so incompetent. Being a Systems Admin for a multitude of customers ranging from Dental Clinics to 5000+ server Datacenters, I have not come into much contact with Apache. I thought you assholes, could serve to provide some help with this obvious error in the Apache documentation, but instead I reinforced my belief in the reasons why most people use software that has documentation and phone numbers to call for help. Tyson Varosyan Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.up-times.com 206-715-TECH (8324) UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime -Original Message- From: Katipo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:59 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff... Alvin Oga wrote: >On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > > > >>At the risk of having my hand slapped I will ask, since I bet there are >>quite a few Apache users on this board. >> >> >... > > > >>I am using Windows 2000 and Apache 2.0.44 >> >> > >... > > > >>Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. >> >> > >... no wonder :-) > > > > The only way out of that one is a lead aspro. Beyond hand slap material. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff...
Alvin Oga wrote: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Tyson Varosyan wrote: At the risk of having my hand slapped I will ask, since I bet there are quite a few Apache users on this board. ... I am using Windows 2000 and Apache 2.0.44 ... Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. ... no wonder :-) The only way out of that one is a lead aspro. Beyond hand slap material. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Tyson Varosyan wrote: > At the risk of having my hand slapped I will ask, since I bet there are > quite a few Apache users on this board. ... > I am using Windows 2000 and Apache 2.0.44 ... > Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. ... no wonder :-) c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff...
Tyson Varosyan wrote: At the risk of having my hand slapped I will ask, since I bet there are quite a few Apache users on this board. I am trying to set up Multiple Daemons for my websites and through reading the instructions, I find a curious passage, "Create a separate httpd installation for each virtual host." However, there is ABSOLUTELY no explanation on how to install a separate httpd installation. At least none that I have been able to find. Please help. I am using Windows 2000 and Apache 2.0.44 I was under the impression that Windows 2000 was not a recommended OS for Apache 2.0? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not a Debian question, but you guys know this stuff...
At the risk of having my hand slapped I will ask, since I bet there are quite a few Apache users on this board. I am trying to set up Multiple Daemons for my websites and through reading the instructions, I find a curious passage, "Create a separate httpd installation for each virtual host." However, there is ABSOLUTELY no explanation on how to install a separate httpd installation. At least none that I have been able to find. Please help. I am using Windows 2000 and Apache 2.0.44 Thanks, Tyson Varosyan Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.up-times.com 206-715-TECH (8324) UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: not a debian question
On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 09:46:42 MDT Lazar Fleysher ([EMAIL PROTECTED] .gov) wrote: > I have a pentium computer with a dual IDE controller, but BIOS can access > only primary channel. > > Will Linux be able to 'see' both channels? (hope it is a yes...) Yes. Of course :-) > I have tried to install second HD on the primary channel and . > Hard drive from Western Digital is not recognized at all, but BIOS can > find a Seagate one. Nevertheless, when I turn on the computer BIOS says > that the new HD did not pass POST, press F1 to continue and computer boots > from my old Panasonic drive, but very slowly... After that if I warm > reboot the computer, everything is fine. Is the second HD configured as slave and the first configured as master. It sometimes looks dumb to say this, but some HD come with three-way settings (alone, master, slave). Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Hi people! This is not a Debian question, but I thought someone might know I have a pentium computer with a dual IDE controller, but BIOS can access only primary channel. Will Linux be able to 'see' both channels? (hope it is a yes...) And one more question. I have tried to install second HD on the primary channel and . Hard drive from Western Digital is not recognized at all, but BIOS can find a Seagate one. Nevertheless, when I turn on the computer BIOS says that the new HD did not pass POST, press F1 to continue and computer boots from my old Panasonic drive, but very slowly... After that if I warm reboot the computer, everything is fine. It is a bit inconvenient to wait for 3 min for an error message, slow boot and then reboot Quite a complicated boot sequence. ... IDE controller supports PIO 0,1,2,3,4 ; BIOS supports Large Block Addressing (LBA mode) Did anyone have the same type of problem? Does anyone know what to do? Maybe I have to change something in BIOS setup... People how manufactured BIOS ( Award ) and IDE claim that it should work. Thanks to everybody ZORO -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
