Re: obtaining copy of debian
On 4/10/11 6:22 AM, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. (For the archives) Windows 7 does burn ISOs natively. You just right click and Burn disc image. It also supports verification of the disc. Your point stands for others, which need something like Infra Recorder. -Steve signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: obtaining copy of debian
on 16:16 Sun 10 Apr, ow...@netptc.net (ow...@netptc.net) wrote: I note that the OP of this thread has dropped out after the initial posting that set everyone scrambling. I'm with Ron on this one--I think we have a troll Trolls aren't entirely useless. With archives and search engines, this becomes yet another target in the search how do I get/download/burn/install Debian from Windows. As I noted in my initial response, the breadcrumbs to the Debian installer from the homepage /are/ good. What's a tad confusing is the third stage at which one must identify their hardware. The choice between x86, ia64, and amd64 is a bit confusing. Hrm. A link from processor architecture to how to determin my system's processor type/architecture page would be useful. A quick search doesn't turn up a good guide, through the Debian Installation Guide lists architectures, and the Debian FAQ identifies these by chip type: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch02s01.html.en http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-compat.en.html#s-arches -- Dr. Ed Morbius, Chief Scientist /| Robot Wrangler / Staff Psychologist| When you seek unlimited power Krell Power Systems Unlimited| Go to Krell! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110411203557.gd7...@altaira.krellpowersys.exo
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On Sb, 09 apr 11, 16:44:31, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: Download that ISO, and burn it with any *IMAGE* (not file) burning software. (I don't use Windows so I'm not familiar with what works there, but IIRC Nero used to work, though I don't know if the native Windows software does off the top. For Mac, the CD tool does just fine. A quick Google search turns up a helpful page from CentOS: http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/CD_burning_howto.html Just for the archives: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-windows Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: obtaining copy of debian
Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. Google is your friend. Advise using the businesscard ISO as I had to do a 'Doze download and burn to get my box back up and running and ran onto all the probs of small errors in large ISO download. 'Course I was downloading and installing Wheezy so that might have been the problem. But it's doable. Good luck. AND, I agree with the statement of attitude adjustment when asking for help. 'nuff said, I hope. Whit On 04/09/2011 07:44 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: on 00:36 Sat 09 Apr, Larry Wazny (the-...@rogers.com) wrote: I have been trying for the last hour to download a copy. I have not used Linus for years, which was Redhat. I get the parent directory which allows me to do nothing. I have tried http and torrent and have never experienced such difficulty. No wonder windows is the most popular as I can download any software I need by one click.the-waz@rogers,com If you're going to use Linus, you might want to check with Tove first for clearance. If it's Linux you're after, you might want to tell us, say, what hardware you've got, and what URLs you're attempting to use for downloading the installer / image. How hard is it to figure this out? Lessee: Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Top of the page: Getting Debian - http://www.debian.org/distrib/ First major heading: Download a small installation image - http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst This page is possibly a little confusing as you need to know your system's CPU architecture. For any recent PC hardware, that's amd64 - http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1a/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso Download that ISO, and burn it with any *IMAGE* (not file) burning software. (I don't use Windows so I'm not familiar with what works there, but IIRC Nero used to work, though I don't know if the native Windows software does off the top. For Mac, the CD tool does just fine. A quick Google search turns up a helpful page from CentOS: http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/CD_burning_howto.html Other useful links would be the Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ The Debian Documentation homepage is another good place to start looking for help: http://www.debian.org/doc/ I'd particularly recommend the FAQ: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ A bit of attitude adjustment might also be in order. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4da192fa.3080...@comcast.net
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110410122759.ga2...@aurora.owens.net
Re: obtaining copy of debian
another good free one is http://cdburnerxp.se/ On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110410122759.ga2...@aurora.owens.net
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:27, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. Yeah, it's a good one, and one of the only Open Source recorders for Windows. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi)gw-xxqb0tmjftz9mwfatxq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: obtaining copy of debian
Hi, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:27, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. Yeah, it's a good one, and one of the only Open Source recorders for Windows. I use this one, clean and freeware: http://www.ntfs.com/iso_burner_free.htm Works very nicely, although there is one bugbear that annoys me. The bugbear: try to burn a DVD ISO to a CD blank and it burns, then gives up when it runs out of space on the media. better if it wouldn't try to burn the DVD size ISO on a CD blank. Aside from that, it is an excellent program for burning ISO files in Windows. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4da1db2d.4000...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On Apr 10, 2011 12:32 PM, Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au wrote: Hi, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:27, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. Yeah, it's a good one, and one of the only Open Source recorders for Windows. I use this one, clean and freeware: http://www.ntfs.com/iso_burner_free.htm Works very nicely, although there is one bugbear that annoys me. The bugbear: try to burn a DVD ISO to a CD blank and it burns, then gives up when it runs out of space on the media. better if it wouldn't try to burn the DVD size ISO on a CD blank. Aside from that, it is an excellent program for burning ISO files in Windows. I used to use imgburn for this. Disclaimer: I've spent 2 hours on windows in the past year so I can't comment on the current status of things.
Re: obtaining copy of debian
Rob Owens wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. I've downloaded the portable version to check it out, what is smoke.exe? It doesn't work as it complains about a missing DLL. Umm, okay, just looked at a youtube vid -- it looks like smoke.exe animates whilst burning a disk. I have no disk to write at this time, but I'll try it out one day. iso-burner.exe is much simpler, a single portable file. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4da1e312.6030...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: obtaining copy of debian
Andrew McGlashan (me) wrote: iso-burner.exe is much simpler, a single portable file. It is actually NOT a single file, but it is not many files and it is quite compact. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4da1e910.2080...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 08:27 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. -Rob also freeware CdburnerXPpro -CT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1302464984.1860.0.camel@lucy
Re: obtaining copy of debian
- Original Message - From: chris To: Rob Owens Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 4/10/2011 7:49:44 PM Subject: Re: obtaining copy of debian On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 08:27 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. -Rob also freeware CdburnerXPpro -CT I note that the OP of this thread has dropped out after the initial posting that set everyone scrambling. I'm with Ron on this one--I think we have a troll Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: 1302464984.1860.0.camel@lucyhttp://lists.debian.org/1302464984.1860.0.camel@lucy
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 16:16 -0700, ow...@netptc.net wrote: - Original Message - From: chris To: Rob Owens Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 4/10/2011 7:49:44 PM Subject: Re: obtaining copy of debian On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 08:27 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:22:34AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: Re Windows and ISO's. 'Doze don't do ISO's. IOW you can't use a native Windows MS product to burn ISO's to CD. There is a free program out there, can't remember the name, that you can use. It's infra recorder. I've used it before and it does burn ISOs. -Rob also freeware CdburnerXPpro -CT I note that the OP of this thread has dropped out after the initial posting that set everyone scrambling. I'm with Ron on this one--I think we have a troll Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: 1302464984.1860.0.camel@lucyhttp://lists.debian.org/1302464984.1860.0.camel@lucy Damn! Got me Cheers CT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1302489366.1879.1.camel@lucy
obtaining copy of debian
I have been trying for the last hour to download a copy. I have not used Linus for years, which was Redhat. I get the parent directory which allows me to do nothing. I have tried http and torrent and have never experienced such difficulty. No wonder windows is the most popular as I can download any software I need by one click.the-waz@rogers,com
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On 04/09/2011 02:36 AM, Larry Wazny wrote: I have been trying for the last hour to download a copy. I have not used Linus for years, which was Redhat. I get the parent directory which allows me to do nothing. I have tried http and torrent and have never experienced such difficulty. No wonder windows is the most popular as I can download any software I need by one click.the-waz@rogers,com Since (a) you don't tell us how or from where you are downloading a copy of what, and (b) even my non-geek wife and kids use Linux and easily and successfully download stuff with one click... I call you troll until such time as you read How To Ask Questions The Smart Way (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html) and try again. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4da011fb.40...@cox.net
Re: obtaining copy of debian
On 04/09/11 09:36, Larry Wazny wrote: I have been trying for the last hour to download a copy. I have not used Linus for years, which was Redhat. I get the parent directory which allows me to do nothing. I have tried http and torrent and have never experienced such difficulty. No wonder windows is the most popular as I can download any software I need by one click.the-waz@rogers,com It should be easier to try Redhat if you got used with that... Anyway the following is the debian.org official download image. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1a/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-6.0.1a-amd64-i386-netinst.iso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/inpef1$ldn$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: obtaining copy of debian
Go to http://www.debian.org/distrib/ and follow instructions. Alternatively, go to http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/, choose a vendor, and order a CD. No wonder windows is the most popular as I can download any software I need by one click.the-waz@rogers,com You can download an installable copy of Windows 7 there? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hba7va89@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: obtaining copy of debian
on 00:36 Sat 09 Apr, Larry Wazny (the-...@rogers.com) wrote: I have been trying for the last hour to download a copy. I have not used Linus for years, which was Redhat. I get the parent directory which allows me to do nothing. I have tried http and torrent and have never experienced such difficulty. No wonder windows is the most popular as I can download any software I need by one click.the-waz@rogers,com If you're going to use Linus, you might want to check with Tove first for clearance. If it's Linux you're after, you might want to tell us, say, what hardware you've got, and what URLs you're attempting to use for downloading the installer / image. How hard is it to figure this out? Lessee: Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Top of the page: Getting Debian - http://www.debian.org/distrib/ First major heading: Download a small installation image - http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst This page is possibly a little confusing as you need to know your system's CPU architecture. For any recent PC hardware, that's amd64 - http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1a/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.1a-amd64-netinst.iso Download that ISO, and burn it with any *IMAGE* (not file) burning software. (I don't use Windows so I'm not familiar with what works there, but IIRC Nero used to work, though I don't know if the native Windows software does off the top. For Mac, the CD tool does just fine. A quick Google search turns up a helpful page from CentOS: http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/CD_burning_howto.html Other useful links would be the Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ The Debian Documentation homepage is another good place to start looking for help: http://www.debian.org/doc/ I'd particularly recommend the FAQ: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ A bit of attitude adjustment might also be in order. -- Dr. Ed Morbius, Chief Scientist /| Robot Wrangler / Staff Psychologist| When you seek unlimited power Krell Power Systems Unlimited| Go to Krell! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110409234431.gb7...@altaira.krellpowersys.exo
