Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 04:40:19PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Bob Holtzman wrote:
  Ric Moore wrote:
   Please don't top post. Thanx, Ric
  
  That's standard format on Earth, Sol system,
  Alpha quadrant, Milky Way galaxy, Virgo supercluster
 
 Sorry but it's not.  Top posting isn't the standard format on
 technical mailing lists.  The standard format is conversational
 quoting.

Right, and my comment was sarcasm.


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-19 Thread Raymond Jennings
It's gray.​

I bought it at best buy, it's the Insignia brand.


Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Holtzman wrote:
 Ric Moore wrote:
  Please don't top post. Thanx, Ric
 
 That's standard format on Earth, Sol system,
 Alpha quadrant, Milky Way galaxy, Virgo supercluster

Sorry but it's not.  Top posting isn't the standard format on
technical mailing lists.  The standard format is conversational
quoting.

Bob


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Tony van der Hoff wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
  cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
  customer of them.
  
http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814

 Beware: These cables tend to be prone to UV degradation; best to run
 them in some sort of conduit for use outdoors. Outdoor grade cable is
 available, though, as is armoured cable.

True.  But for $12 for a 100ft cable it is hard not to simply go for
it and deal with a replacement a decade later after it finally fails.

About five years ago I put up a temporary cable up a tower.  It was
a red colored cable so definitely not meant for UV environments.
Black is better for high UV environments.  But red was what I had
available and therefore became a temporary installation.  Now all of
these years later it is somewhat faded but still usable.  Hard to call
it temporary after several years.  I keep thinking I will replace it
one of these days with one with UV rated insulation.  But it hasn't
needed it yet.

Bob


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-17 Thread Charles Kroeger

 This seems like a great alternative:
 https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-libre-tet-n150
 
 (I haven't tried it myself though).
 
 /Andreas
 gus...@gusnan.se
 mailingli...@gusnan.se


So it does, and I use the libre-Linux kernel 4.03 -gnu myself; however, it 
should
be mentioned from a recent previous exchange of views on a similar free USB 
adapter
using the same Atheros AR9271 driver that regarding the price of €35 (currently 
the
recent 'weakening' of the dollar viz the euro that's $40.00 plus 2.28 shipping)
for a device that may only see the 2.5GHz wireless signal. I don't know how busy
that signal is in Europe but in the US it is too busy and any adapter costing
that much and being used in the US, should now have the ability to connect to
the 5.0GHz wireless signal that many wireless routers offer, or it's not worth 
$40.

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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-17 Thread Ric Moore

On 05/17/2015 11:45 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote:

I live in Kennewick, WA, 99336, USA, North America, Earth, Sol system,
Alpha quadrant, Milky Way galaxy, Virgo supercluster


Please don't top post. Thanx, Ric


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-17 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
On 17 May 2015 at 10:33, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 05/17/2015 11:45 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote:

 I live in Kennewick, WA, 99336, USA, North America, Earth, Sol system,
 Alpha quadrant, Milky Way galaxy, Virgo supercluster

  Please don't top post. Thanx, Ric


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​Buy any N Adaptor that uses the ATH9k radio chip-set and you will be set. ​


​Options here:

https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Ath9k


If you want AC then the only real usable option at the moment in ATH10k but
it has issues. You are best to stick to ATH9k which is easily the most
mature and open of Wireless radio SoC's available.
​


Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-17 Thread Raymond Jennings
I live in Kennewick, WA, 99336, USA, North America, Earth, Sol system,
Alpha quadrant, Milky Way galaxy, Virgo supercluster

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 17 May 2015 11:08:07 Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Saturday 16 May 2015 00:09:59 Bob Proulx wrote:
   Raymond Jennings wrote:
I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house
to the trailer :P
  
   My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
   will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
   reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.
  
   If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
   cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
   customer of them.
  
 http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814
 
  I seem to have missed the info that Raymond lives in the States.
 
  Lisi

 He does later appear to confirm it.

 Lisi


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-17 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 01:33:34PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
 On 05/17/2015 11:45 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote:
 I live in Kennewick, WA, 99336, USA, North America, Earth, Sol system,
 Alpha quadrant, Milky Way galaxy, Virgo supercluster
 
 Please don't top post. Thanx, Ric

That's standard format on Earth, Sol system,
Alpha quadrant, Milky Way galaxy, Virgo supercluster

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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 May 2015 00:09:59 Bob Proulx wrote:
 Raymond Jennings wrote:
  I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house to
  the trailer :P

 My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
 will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
 reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.

 If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
 cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
 customer of them.

   http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814

I seem to have missed the info that Raymond lives in the States.

Lisi


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 17 May 2015 11:08:07 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Saturday 16 May 2015 00:09:59 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Raymond Jennings wrote:
   I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house
   to the trailer :P
 
  My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
  will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
  reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.
 
  If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
  cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
  customer of them.
 
http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814

 I seem to have missed the info that Raymond lives in the States.

 Lisi

He does later appear to confirm it.

Lisi


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-16 Thread briand
On Fri, 15 May 2015 17:09:59 -0600
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 Raymond Jennings wrote:
  I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house to
  the trailer :P
 
 My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
 will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
 reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.
 

you know the joke about wireless, right ?

it's a lossy, expensive cable.


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 16 May 2015 06:09:51 Tony van der Hoff wrote:
 On 16/05/15 01:09, Bob Proulx wrote:
  Raymond Jennings wrote:
  I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the
  house to the trailer :P
 
  My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
  will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
  reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.
 
  If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
  cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
  customer of them.
 
   
  http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814
 
  Bob

 Beware: These cables tend to be prone to UV degradation; best to run
 them in some sort of conduit for use outdoors. Outdoor grade cable is
 available, though, as is armoured cable.

On the other side of this, I have 2 100 foot pieces of cat5, Belden's 
bright blue stuff, strung across my back yard, one from the switch at my 
router to a workshop/shed with 3 computers in it, and another from that 
shed back to the garage where another old linux box lives.  The run from 
the house to the shop is about 40 feet, and back to the garage is about 
40 feet.  It has been blowing in the wind for something north of a 
decade now, including 2 damaging windstorms, one of which was recorded 
at 112 mph a block away back in 2010.  The blue is fading, but the 
signal is rock solid on a 100 megabit circuit yet.  After the abuse its 
been thru, I have no idea why its still working, but it is.
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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-16 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 16/05/15 01:09, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Raymond Jennings wrote:
 I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house to
 the trailer :P
 
 My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
 will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
 reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.
 
 If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
 cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
 customer of them.
 
   http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814
 
 Bob
 
 
Beware: These cables tend to be prone to UV degradation; best to run
them in some sort of conduit for use outdoors. Outdoor grade cable is
available, though, as is armoured cable.

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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-15 Thread Mark Allums



On 05/14/2015 08:25 PM, Raymond Jennings wrote:

I need to install a wifi adapter to my newly built desktop machine.

It needs to attach to either usb or the rj45 port, and I'd like to 
avoid models that require downloaded firmware or ndiswrapper or the like.


Any options out there?  I'm willing to buy stuff online if needed.

The N300 from netgear I have isn't installing, even on the netinst cd 
with firmware.



Most USB dongles will require firmware.  The little Edimax dongle 
available on Amazon and everywhere works beautifully with the Raspberry 
PI using Raspbian out-of-the-box, perhaps it would work for you?  It's 
tiny and supports WiFi-N, costs about $10.




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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Raymond Jennings wrote:
 I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house to
 the trailer :P

My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.

If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
customer of them.

  http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814

Bob


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-15 Thread Raymond Jennings
good idea, but since it was time sensitive, I opted for best buy at a local
brick and mortar.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 Raymond Jennings wrote:
  I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house to
  the trailer :P

 My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
 will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
 reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.

 If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
 cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
 customer of them.

   http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814

 Bob


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-15 Thread Raymond Jennings
Pardon, it was a cat5e cable.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Raymond Jennings shent...@gmail.com
wrote:

 good idea, but since it was time sensitive, I opted for best buy at a
 local brick and mortar.

 On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 Raymond Jennings wrote:
  I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house to
  the trailer :P

 My perspective is that nothing is as reliable as hardline wire!  It
 will be much more immune to radio noise trouble.  Speedy and
 reliable.  Wire will almost always be my choice if possible.

 If you didn't think of http://www.monoprice.com/ for that 100 foot
 cable let me make a mention of it here for the future.  I am a happy
 customer of them.

   http://www.monoprice.com/Category?c_id=105cp_id=10208cs_id=1020814

 Bob


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-15 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:25:46 -0700
Raymond Jennings shent...@gmail.com wrote:

I need to install a wifi adapter to my newly built desktop machine.

It needs to attach to either usb or the rj45 port, and I'd like to
avoid models that require downloaded firmware or ndiswrapper or the
like.

Any options out there?  I'm willing to buy stuff online if needed.

The N300 from netgear I have isn't installing, even on the netinst cd
with firmware.

This seems like a great alternative:
https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-libre-tet-n150

(I haven't tried it myself though).

/Andreas
gus...@gusnan.se
mailingli...@gusnan.se


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Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-15 Thread Raymond Jennings
I wound up buying a 100 foot cat5 cable and running it from the house to
the trailer :P

But thanks everyone for trying to help.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Mark Allums m...@allums.top wrote:



 On 05/14/2015 08:25 PM, Raymond Jennings wrote:

 I need to install a wifi adapter to my newly built desktop machine.

 It needs to attach to either usb or the rj45 port, and I'd like to avoid
 models that require downloaded firmware or ndiswrapper or the like.

 Any options out there?  I'm willing to buy stuff online if needed.

 The N300 from netgear I have isn't installing, even on the netinst cd
 with firmware.



 Most USB dongles will require firmware.  The little Edimax dongle
 available on Amazon and everywhere works beautifully with the Raspberry PI
 using Raspbian out-of-the-box, perhaps it would work for you?  It's tiny
 and supports WiFi-N, costs about $10.



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out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-14 Thread Raymond Jennings
I need to install a wifi adapter to my newly built desktop machine.

It needs to attach to either usb or the rj45 port, and I'd like to avoid
models that require downloaded firmware or ndiswrapper or the like.

Any options out there?  I'm willing to buy stuff online if needed.

The N300 from netgear I have isn't installing, even on the netinst cd with
firmware.


Re: out of the box wifi adapter

2015-05-14 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:25:46 -0700
Raymond Jennings shent...@gmail.com wrote:

 I need to install a wifi adapter to my newly built desktop machine.
 
 It needs to attach to either usb or the rj45 port, and I'd like to avoid
 models that require downloaded firmware or ndiswrapper or the like.

Not sure what you mean by downloaded firmware. Are you okay with
Debian packaged firmware?

 Any options out there?  I'm willing to buy stuff online if needed.

If you're willing to use nonfree, there are certainly plenty of
options, e.g.:

https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penguin-802-11N-USB-Wifi-Adapter-Card-for-Wireless-Ubuntu-GNU-Linux-Mint-Zorin-/271222750451

 The N300 from netgear I have isn't installing, even on the netinst cd with
 firmware.

Celejar


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