Re: package list for CLI-only admin/service install

2008-01-18 Thread SpamHog
Interesting stuff all this!

Joseph: your metapackage is a great starting point.
I'll see if I understand it enough to hack it up for needs.

Thanks to all.


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Re: package list for CLI-only admin/service install

2008-01-18 Thread joseph lockhart
 Interesting stuff all this!
 
 Joseph: your metapackage is a great starting point.
 I'll see if I understand it enough to hack it up for
 needs.
 
 Thanks to all.
 
no problem, i made it for a personal need, then put it
on cli-apps so that it would not just get lost



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package list for CLI-only admin/service install

2008-01-17 Thread SpamHog
On my boxes I install a small Debian stable on its own partition for
service and rescue purposes, an alternative to the many live-CD
distros.

I've been looking for a Custom Debian Distributions or package list or
metapackage which would pull in plenty of CLI-only admin - rescue -
network - security tools, a few key servers (file, ssh,, and little
more),  basic clients for communicating (http, irc, etc etc) many
drivers, but no X.

I have also tried to lift the package list from existing  live-cd
distros, but it did not work out - and would have contained distro-
specific packages anyway, which is something I'd rather avoid.


Does anybody keep such a pure Debian CLI tools
metapackage or package list or CDD
with such a selction of apps?


TIA for all the wisdom I will receive!


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Re: package list for CLI-only admin/service install

2008-01-17 Thread Martin Marcher
SpamHog wrote:
 Does anybody keep such a pure Debian CLI tools
 metapackage or package list or CDD
 with such a selction of apps?

I guess it really depends on your environment, we have this on every host:

# more or less standard packages
# this is the tasksel standard selection
~pstandard
~prequired
~pimportant

# just in case :)
less
bzip2

# scripting usage
python
vim

# my boss likes it I don't
mc

# monitoring - very nice
zabbix-agent

# killall is nice
psmisc

# networking
screen
ethtool
iproute

# we run on xfs
xfsprogs
xfsdump

# misc stuff
acl
curl
subversion

# SSH Stuff
openssh-client
openssh-server


i'm also open to suggestions - puppet is next on the list to be added as it
can manage all those things centrally

hth
martin


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Re: package list for CLI-only admin/service install

2008-01-17 Thread SpamHog
On Jan 17, 12:50 pm, Martin Marcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i'm also open to suggestions

Hmmm, I'll readup on metapackages.
Never maintained anything, but how hard would it be to prepare
ONE dummy .deb that pulls all the CLI admin/rescue tools I want?.
After a standard net-install one would just do a wget and a dpkg.

As an alternative, debfoster + a long install list.


I could start from the app list of a live cd.   Doesn't look too hard.
Once I give it a try I'll post on whether I overrated the task.



Re: package list for CLI-only admin/service install

2008-01-17 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:45:11AM -0800, SpamHog wrote:
 I've been looking for a Custom Debian Distributions or package list or
 metapackage which would pull in plenty of CLI-only admin - rescue -
 network - security tools, a few key servers (file, ssh,, and little
 more),  basic clients for communicating (http, irc, etc etc) many
 drivers, but no X.
 
 Does anybody keep such a pure Debian CLI tools
 metapackage or package list or CDD
 with such a selction of apps?
 
When I install, I do a minimal install (don't select any tasks, not even
standard), then set up aptitude.  For my spare box (used both for
accessing the main box, but also as a reference box in case the main box
goes down), I install a fair bit.  I generally include X in case there
are any pdf docs I need or if I need a graphical browser.  For that
purpose, I include links2.  Since I may want to print out more than
plain-text, I include apsfilter and gs-gpl in addition to lpr.  I
include the docs for most things.  I didn't include the tar doc package
since mc will handle it natively.

I don't create a metapackage.  It doesn't take me long to go down my
usual list and select what I need.

I hope this helps.

Doug.

Here's the list but I'll remove the X
stuff from it.  FYI, the list is created with 
# aptitude search '~i!~M' (installed not automatically)

i   adduser - Add and remove users and groups   
i   anacron - cron-like program that doesn't go by time 
i   apsfilter   - Magic print filter with automatic file typ
i   apt-doc - Documentation for APT 
i   apt-howto-en- example-based guide to APT (English)  
i   apt-utils   - APT utility programs  
i   aptitude- terminal-based apt frontend   
i   aptitude-doc-en - English manual for aptitude, a terminal-ba
i   bash- The GNU Bourne Again SHell
i   bwm-ng  - small and simple console-based bandwidth m
i   cron- management of regular background processin
i   debconf-english - small footprint English-only debconf  
i   debian-policy   - Debian Policy Manual and related documents
i   debian-reference-en - Debian system administration guide, Englis
i   dnsmasq - A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server 
i   doc-linux-html  - Linux HOWTOs and FAQs in HTML format  
i   doc-linux-nonfree-html  - Linux HOWTOs in HTML format (non-free)
i   dosfstools  - Utilities to create and check MS-DOS FAT f
i   ed  - The classic unix line editor  
i   exim4   - metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installa
i   fdutils - Linux floppy utilities
i   file- Determines file type using magic numbers
i   grub- GRand Unified Bootloader  
i   grub-doc- Documentation for GRand Unified Bootloader
i   gs-gpl  - The GPL Ghostscript PostScript interpreter
i   gsfonts-x11 - Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11   
i   hwb - The Hardware Book 
i   icewm   - wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window man
i   iptables- administration tools for packet filtering 
i   less- Pager program similar to more 
i   libc6-i686  - GNU C Library: Shared libraries [i686 opti
i   libpaper-utils  - Library for handling paper characteristics
i   links2  - Web browser running in both graphics and t
i   linux-image-686 - Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PII
i   logrotate   - Log rotation utility  
i   lpr - BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system  
i   lrzsz   - Tools for zmodem/xmodem/ymodem file transf
i   lynx- Text-mode WWW Browser 
i   mailx   - A simple mail user agent  
i   makepasswd  - Generate and encrypt passwords
i   man-db  - The on-line manual pager  
i   manpages- Manual pages about using a GNU/Linux syste
i   mc  - midnight commander - a powerful file manag
i   menu- generates programs menu for all menu-aware
i   mime-support- MIME files 'mime.types'  'mailcap', and s
i   minicom   

Re: package list for CLI-only admin/service install

2008-01-17 Thread joseph lockhart

  i'm also open to suggestions
 
 Hmmm, I'll readup on metapackages.
 Never maintained anything, but how hard would it be
 to prepare
 ONE dummy .deb that pulls all the CLI admin/rescue
 tools I want?.
 After a standard net-install one would just do a
 wget and a dpkg.
 
 As an alternative, debfoster + a long install list.
 
 
 I could start from the app list of a live cd.  
 Doesn't look too hard.
 Once I give it a try I'll post on whether I
 overrated the task.
 
 
there is a terminal metapackage that i worked on a
while back, may need some tweeking still (kind of left
it orphaned for the time being)

http://www.cli-apps.org/content/show.php/terminalphile?content=70610

let me know if it helps

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