Re: partitioning 45 gig HD

2001-02-06 Thread Zac Epkes
What i would do in this and for anyone is Make sure / is the first
partition (Primary) or make a small 30mb partition for /boot at the
beginning of the drive which Lilo will require for the 1024 cylinder
max.  As long as the other partitions i would make / maybe 3 to 4 gb
(this is plenty), /usr 5gb to 10gb depennding on what exactly yor doing
(being like me i have Quake3  Unreal Tourney so i made it kinda big),
/home maybe another 5gb.  Whether u r planing to store stuff used on
/data or /home you either make /home larger or make /home a little
smaller (being some files will Dled there temporarily) and make /data
the rest of the disk.  NOT forgeting your swap if you really need one.
otherwise depending on your system, processer, RAM, reply with that, i
have a P3 650Mhz w/ 256mb RAM and a 500mb swap that never gets touched.
so for the finals :

/boot -30mb at the beginning of the drive
/-4gb (plenty)
/usr  -5gb, bigger if installing a lot (IE - games, office
utils)
/home -4gb (bigger if where data is stored)
/data -the rest of the disk (if this is for only global data
then possible 4 to 5gb)
swap  -maybe 500mb if you have a system around mine

and as for primary vs. logical, you CAN have 4 primary partitions seeing
that all logical drives begin at hda5 (and i also got this from
partition magic)
and i would probably make /boot and / primary as the rest logical

Sorry for the strung out responce, and hope it helps =]

- overid3

Nick wrote:

 Hello, Does anyone have experience partitioning large Hardrives and
 making Lilo happy? I don't know much about the 1024 cyclinder except
 that you need to install root somewhere before it. How can I tell w/
 my drive?  Using a IBM Deskstar ATA/100 45 Gig I wanna
 make://usr/home/data maybe? How do I know when to use primary vs.
 logical?



partitioning 45 gig HD

2001-02-04 Thread Nick



Hello,

Does anyone have experience partitioning large 
Hardrives and making Lilo happy?

I don't know much about the 1024 cyclinder except 
that you need to install root somewhere before it.

How can I tell w/ my drive? Using a IBM 
Deskstar ATA/100 45 Gig

I wanna make:
/
/usr
/home
/data maybe?

How do I know when to use primary vs. 
logical?


Re: partitioning 45 gig HD

2001-02-04 Thread ktb
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 10:07:29PM -0800, Nick wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Does anyone have experience partitioning large Hardrives and making Lilo 
 happy?
 
 I don't know much about the 1024 cyclinder except that you need to install 
 root somewhere before it.
 
 How can I tell w/ my drive?  Using a IBM Deskstar ATA/100 45 Gig
 
 I wanna make:
 /
 /usr
 /home
 /data maybe?
 
 How do I know when to use primary vs. logical?

To get around the 1024 thing put the line -
lba32
in your /etc/lilo.conf file or use the -L option.
# lilo -L

As far as partitioning primary vs. logical I think you can have 2 or so
primary and as many logical as you need.  I may be wrong on that.  I'm
sure someone will correct me if I am.  I don't think it matters that
much.  cfdisk or fdisk won't let you create more primary partitions than
you are allowed anyway.  I generally start with a / primary partition.
hth,
kent

-- 
I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson



Re: partitioning 45 gig HD

2001-02-04 Thread Marc A. Donges
On Saturday, February 03, 2001 at 22:07:29 (-0800), Nick wrote:
 I don't know much about the 1024 cyclinder except that you need to install 
 root somewhere before it.

We're talking about i386, right?

On older systems, the kernel image had to be before that boundary. I
usually made a separate /boot partition right at the beginning of the
disk, then / could be anywhere (well, almost).

 How can I tell w/ my drive?  Using a IBM Deskstar ATA/100 45 Gig

AFAIK, LILO in potato supports LBA32 addressing scheme. With that HDD and
a recent BIOS, where recent is late 1997, you should _theoretically_ be
able to boot from anywhere on that drive. Still you can use the
beforementioned approach.

 I wanna make:
 /
 /usr
 /home
 /data maybe?

Are you asking for size estimates? Heavily depends on desired usage.

 How do I know when to use primary vs. logical?

You can only use a limited number of primary partitions. Primary and
logical cannot be intermixed in any combination (you cannot put a primary
between two logical partitions).

With Linux, you don't *need* primary partitions, you can exclusively use
logical partitions, if you wish.

FYI, I currently have:

hda1 50MB /boot [Primary]
hda2   2000MB /home [Primary]
hda5100MB / [Logical]
hda6   2500MB /usr  [Logical]
hda7   1000MB /var  [Logical]

Where '/usr' is too big and '/home' and '/var' are too small...

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Re: (and) partitioning 45 gig HD

2001-02-04 Thread ktb
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 10:07:29PM -0800, Nick wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Does anyone have experience partitioning large Hardrives and making Lilo 
 happy?
 
 I don't know much about the 1024 cyclinder except that you need to install 
 root somewhere before it.
 
 How can I tell w/ my drive?  Using a IBM Deskstar ATA/100 45 Gig
 
 I wanna make:
 /
 /usr
 /home
 /data maybe?
 
 How do I know when to use primary vs. logical?

I forgot the other question about partitions.  You might want to start
with the debian documentation at -
http://www.newriders.com/debian/html/noframes/node15.html
kent

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Re: partitioning 45 gig HD

2001-02-04 Thread Nick
Hey,

thanks for your suggestions. Making a /boot partition at the being of the
drive makes sense.

I only other question would be, when I install my system from the CD, do I
want to write Lilo to the MBR or do I choose another partition, meaning the
new /boot ~20mb

And if so, is it compatiable w/ windozs 2000 boot menu?

I was able to set up a quad. boot machine. Windows 98 on the first
partition, Linux second, Windows 2000 and Dos 6.0 accessable through windows
98 (boot in ms-dos)
I used only 2 partitions for Linux thought / and /swap 32mb or so.


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From: Marc A. Donges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: partitioning 45 gig HD


 On Saturday, February 03, 2001 at 22:07:29 (-0800), Nick wrote:
  I don't know much about the 1024 cyclinder except that you need to
install root somewhere before it.

 We're talking about i386, right?

 On older systems, the kernel image had to be before that boundary. I
 usually made a separate /boot partition right at the beginning of the
 disk, then / could be anywhere (well, almost).

  How can I tell w/ my drive?  Using a IBM Deskstar ATA/100 45 Gig

 AFAIK, LILO in potato supports LBA32 addressing scheme. With that HDD and
 a recent BIOS, where recent is late 1997, you should _theoretically_ be
 able to boot from anywhere on that drive. Still you can use the
 beforementioned approach.

  I wanna make:
  /
  /usr
  /home
  /data maybe?

 Are you asking for size estimates? Heavily depends on desired usage.

  How do I know when to use primary vs. logical?

 You can only use a limited number of primary partitions. Primary and
 logical cannot be intermixed in any combination (you cannot put a primary
 between two logical partitions).

 With Linux, you don't *need* primary partitions, you can exclusively use
 logical partitions, if you wish.

 FYI, I currently have:

 hda1 50MB /boot [Primary]
 hda2   2000MB /home [Primary]
 hda5100MB / [Logical]
 hda6   2500MB /usr  [Logical]
 hda7   1000MB /var  [Logical]

 Where '/usr' is too big and '/home' and '/var' are too small...

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Re: partitioning 45 gig HD

2001-02-04 Thread John Travis
On Sunday 04 February 2001 07:20, ktb wrote:
 To get around the 1024 thing put the line -
 lba32
 in your /etc/lilo.conf file or use the -L option.
 # lilo -L

 As far as partitioning primary vs. logical I think you can have 2 or
 so primary and as many logical as you need.  I may be wrong on that. 
 I'm sure someone will correct me if I am.  I don't think it matters
 that much.  cfdisk or fdisk won't let you create more primary
 partitions than you are allowed anyway.  I generally start with a /
 primary partition. hth,
 kent

Just wanted to note that you can have four primary partitions.  This 
includes one primary extended, which can house as many logicals as you 
need (I read something somewhere about 64 being the upper limit but I'm 
not sure if that is even true...althoug if you need more than 64 
logicals on one drive you are in trouble ;-).  All of my GNU/Linux 
stuff is logical.  There was some little complaint when installing 
Debian about my /boot not being a primary, but it is obviously possible.

jt