Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 03:09:39PM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
  Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I keep
  getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to the
  backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
  version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it brings
  up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.
 
 I have been having the same problem with mu.yahoo.com and iceweasel.
 A google search pointed me to https://my.yahoo.com/?m=1 which gave me
 my regular mu.yahoo page back.
 From my viewpoint most of yahoo's 'improvements' aren't.

They don't even have an abuse email address anymore! 

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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-23 Thread Scott Lair
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:09:39 -0700
Mike McClain mike.j...@nethere.com wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
  Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I
  keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to
  the backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
  version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it
  brings up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.
 
 I have been having the same problem with mu.yahoo.com and iceweasel.
 A google search pointed me to https://my.yahoo.com/?m=1 which gave me
 my regular mu.yahoo page back.
 From my viewpoint most of yahoo's 'improvements' aren't.
 
 HTH,
 Mike
 --
 Is life so dear, or peace so sweet,
 as to be purchased at the price of chain and slavery?
 - Patrick Henry
 
 
Interesting. The ?m=1 switch works fine on my.yahoo.com, but not on
www.yahoo.com. 

Also, noticed after switching back to the stable release of iceweasel
that I had to put Firefox version 32 in the user agent to get
www.yahoo.com to work again. Hard to believe yahoo only supports the
latest version of firefox under linux, but that seems to be the case
for me.

Scott


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pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Scott Lair
Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I keep
getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to the
backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it brings
up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.

thanks,

Scott


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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
 Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I keep
 getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to the
 backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
 version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it brings
 up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.
 

Using iceweasel version 24.8.0esr-1~deb7u1 all appears to be working
correctly, i.e. http://yahoo.com opens up as usual,
http://mobile.yahoo.com has that distinct 'optimized for fingers' look.

Try installing [1], it would be interesting to see why you're redirected
on mobile version.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/live-http-headers/

Reco


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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Scott Lair wrote:

 Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I
 keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to
 the backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
 version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it
 brings up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.

I'm getting it, too, with iceweasel.  Chrome not affected.  Started
several days ago. Just switched spontaneously while I was at the main
yahoo page.  Blip!  And it changed.  I didn't do anything.  No other
sites affected.

Over the past couple of years had it happen with Firefox.  With
Firefox there was an mobile option in the settings menu, IIRC, that
would get set.  Why, I don't know.  Unsetting it returned yahoo to
desktop mode. Such a setting doesn't seem to be available in iceweasel.

No solutions at this time.


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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Reco wrote:

   Hi.
 
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
  Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I
  keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to
  the backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
  version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it
  brings up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.
  
 
 Using iceweasel version 24.8.0esr-1~deb7u1 all appears to be working
 correctly, i.e. http://yahoo.com opens up as usual,
 http://mobile.yahoo.com has that distinct 'optimized for fingers'
 look.
 
 Try installing [1], it would be interesting to see why you're
 redirected on mobile version.
 
 [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/live-http-headers/

Yahoo seems to be the problem.  Maybe, it's autodetecting and thinks
it's running on a mobile device.  I fired up Jessie in Virtualbox. I
hadn't run it in several weeks. And the last time I did yahoo
displayed correctly.  Loaded www.yahoo.com in iceweasel and it gave me
the mobile page. So, it's not a setting in iceweasel or a cookie, etc.
from previously.

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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Scott Lair
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:10:52 +0400
Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi.
 
 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
  Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I
  keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to
  the backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
  version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it
  brings up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.
  
 
 Using iceweasel version 24.8.0esr-1~deb7u1 all appears to be working
 correctly, i.e. http://yahoo.com opens up as usual,
 http://mobile.yahoo.com has that distinct 'optimized for fingers'
 look.
 
 Try installing [1], it would be interesting to see why you're
 redirected on mobile version.
 
 [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/live-http-headers/
 
 Reco
 
 

Thanks Reco,

I don't really understand what I'm looking at, but here is the log.

--
https://www.yahoo.com/

GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: www.yahoo.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/32.0 Iceweasel/32.0
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Cookie: 
YM=v=2u=oevTqcPftnCGcKmqvYDrqBQDAhFgzMgyb0QGWg--d=f=AAAt=h5EIUBs=Li3M; 
DK=v=2p=OHwyMzMwfFZpcnR1YWx8RGVza3RvcCBCcm93c2VyfGxpbnV4fA--; 
B=f2ma3ulvvujj1b=3s=of; BP=v=1r=c1179101t=3742
Connection: keep-alive

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:32:22 GMT
P3P: policyref=http://info.yahoo.com/w3c/p3p.xml;, CP=CAO DSP COR CUR ADM DEV 
TAI PSA PSD IVAi IVDi CONi TELo OTPi OUR DELi SAMi OTRi UNRi PUBi IND PHY ONL 
UNI PUR FIN COM NAV INT DEM CNT STA POL HEA PRE LOC GOV
X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Encoding: gzip
Content-Length: 25640
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Age: 4
Via: http/1.1 r19.ycpi.bf1.yahoo.net (ApacheTrafficServer [cMsSf ]), https/1.1 
r25.ycpi.dcb.yahoo.net (ApacheTrafficServer [cMsSf ]), https/1.1 
ir49.fp.bf1.yahoo.com (ApacheTrafficServer)
Server: ATS
Connection: keep-alive
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, private, max-age=0
Expires: -1
--
https://s.yimg.com/vs/css/stream-29042014.css

GET /vs/css/stream-29042014.css HTTP/1.1
Host: s.yimg.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/32.0 Iceweasel/32.0
Accept: text/css,*/*;q=0.1
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Referer: https://www.yahoo.com/
Connection: keep-alive
If-Modified-Since: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:29:20 GMT
If-None-Match: YM:1:b99437b5-101d-4d97-b23d-9e984e81f9cb0004f82a3a7c5b47

HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:32:23 GMT
Etag: YM:1:b99437b5-101d-4d97-b23d-9e984e81f9cb0004f82a3a7c5b47
Cache-Control: max-age=0
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Connection: keep-alive
Via: https/1.1 l4.ycs.dcb.yahoo.com (ApacheTrafficServer), HTTP/1.1 
web12.use44.mobstor.bf1.yahoo.com UserFiberFramework/1.0
Server: ATS
--
https://s.yimg.com/vs/css/TodayClass6CSS_09062014.css

GET /vs/css/TodayClass6CSS_09062014.css HTTP/1.1
Host: s.yimg.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/32.0 Iceweasel/32.0
Accept: text/css,*/*;q=0.1
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Referer: https://www.yahoo.com/
Connection: keep-alive
If-Modified-Since: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:31:19 GMT
If-None-Match: YM:1:ae75cc95-5b2b-4096-bfe0-5e953a370f2e0004fb63091b08b3

HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
Cache-Control: private, max-age=0
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:32:23 GMT
Etag: YM:1:ae75cc95-5b2b-4096-bfe0-5e953a370f2e0004fb63091b08b3
Server: ATS
Via: HTTP/1.1 web7.use44.mobstor.bf1.yahoo.com UserFiberFramework/1.0, 
https/1.1 l11.ycs.dcb.yahoo.com (ApacheTrafficServer), HTTP/1.1 
web7.use44.mobstor.bf1.yahoo.com UserFiberFramework/1.0
x-ysws-request-id: 52857d05-0b4d-4d75-bdc7-a2aec8089288
x-ysws-visited-replicas: gops.use44.mobstor.vip.bf1.yahoo.com
Age: 0
Connection: keep-alive
--
https://r.m.yahoo.com/api/res/1.2/8uGbidn6z3Ovl9nNUKHEXQ--/Zmk9Zml0O2g9Njg7cT1IaWdoO3c9OTA-/https://s.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/3l70cypDkStplMaTf1HqNQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTtjYz04NjQwMDtoPTE0MDt3PTE0MDtweW9mZj0wO2ZpPWZpbGw-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/ETOnline/640_blue_ivy_VMAwin_4541125.jpg

GET 
/api/res/1.2/8uGbidn6z3Ovl9nNUKHEXQ--/Zmk9Zml0O2g9Njg7cT1IaWdoO3c9OTA-/https://s.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/3l70cypDkStplMaTf1HqNQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTtjYz04NjQwMDtoPTE0MDt3PTE0MDtweW9mZj0wO2ZpPWZpbGw-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/ETOnline/640_blue_ivy_VMAwin_4541125.jpg
 HTTP/1.1
Host: r.m.yahoo.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/32.0 Iceweasel/32.0
Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5

Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
 Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I keep
 getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to the
 backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
 version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it brings
 up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.

Have you tried from a newly created profile/user?

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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing. --- Malcolm X


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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Scott Lair
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:53:34 -0700
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Scott Lair wrote:
 
  Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I
  keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to
  the backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
  version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it
  brings up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.
 
 I'm getting it, too, with iceweasel.  Chrome not affected.  Started
 several days ago. Just switched spontaneously while I was at the main
 yahoo page.  Blip!  And it changed.  I didn't do anything.  No other
 sites affected.
 
 Over the past couple of years had it happen with Firefox.  With
 Firefox there was an mobile option in the settings menu, IIRC, that
 would get set.  Why, I don't know.  Unsetting it returned yahoo to
 desktop mode. Such a setting doesn't seem to be available in
 iceweasel.
 
 No solutions at this time.
 
 
 B
 
 

I installed the user agent switcher, created a new agent, took out the
string at the end of the new user agent regarding Iceweasel and yahoo
then worked fine. Maybe yahoo doesn't like us?

thanks for getting me looking in the right direction.

Scott


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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Mike McClain
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
 Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I keep
 getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to the
 backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
 version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it brings
 up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.

I have been having the same problem with mu.yahoo.com and iceweasel.
A google search pointed me to https://my.yahoo.com/?m=1 which gave me
my regular mu.yahoo page back.
From my viewpoint most of yahoo's 'improvements' aren't.

HTH,
Mike
--
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet,
as to be purchased at the price of chain and slavery?
- Patrick Henry


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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Scott Lair wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:53:34 -0700
 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Mon, 22 Sep 2014, Scott Lair wrote:
  
   Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?
   I keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating
   iceweasel to the backported version, cleared the cache, but still
   get the mobile version.  Even when I click on the pc version on
   yahoo's site it brings up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok,
   but not iceweasel.
  
  I'm getting it, too, with iceweasel.  Chrome not affected.  Started
  several days ago. Just switched spontaneously while I was at the
  main yahoo page.  Blip!  And it changed.  I didn't do anything.  No
  other sites affected.
  
  Over the past couple of years had it happen with Firefox.  With
  Firefox there was an mobile option in the settings menu, IIRC,
  that would get set.  Why, I don't know.  Unsetting it returned
  yahoo to desktop mode. Such a setting doesn't seem to be available
  in iceweasel.
  
  No solutions at this time.
  
  
  B
  
  
 
 I installed the user agent switcher, created a new agent, took out the
 string at the end of the new user agent regarding Iceweasel and yahoo
 then worked fine. Maybe yahoo doesn't like us?

I completely purged iceweasel, its configs as well as mozilla's, etc.,
etc. Reinstalled, etc.  Still no joy.  I think Yahoo's server sees
Linux and thinks it must be a mobile device and switches automatically
to improve your Yahoo experience.  Right.  Big improvement.  Well,
maybe.  I don't use Yahoo anymore.  Beginning to like not using it. ;-)

What I'd really like to know is why ONLY iceweasel and firefox are
affected. Google-Chrome isn't.  Probably not Opera, but I haven't
checked.  Haven't gotten around to installing it.  I figured one
backup browser was enough. ;-)

B  


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Re: pc version of yahoo.com

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:41:18AM -0400, Scott Lair wrote:
  Anyone having trouble getting to yahoo.com pc version in wheezy?  I
  keep getting the mobile version. I have tried updating iceweasel to
  the backported version, cleared the cache, but still get the mobile
  version.  Even when I click on the pc version on yahoo's site it
  brings up the mobile version.  Chromium works ok, but not iceweasel.
 
 Have you tried from a newly created profile/user?


I never log in to www.yahoo.com.  Never have.  And do not want to.  I
access my yahoo mail accounts with Claws (IMAP).

I purged everything iceweasel/mozilla off my system and reinstalled.
Even imported Chrome's setting and bookmarks.  Had no effect.  I can
only think the problem is on Yahoo's end not mine.

Like I said in another post, this has happen before, lots of times over
the years with Firefox.  One of the reasons I abandoned it.

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