Re: [Almost solved]Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ppp *is* included on the xfce disk, but not pppconfig. This will
 probably not change on the final version because packages are included
 by popularity.
 
 Regards,
 Andrei

 Actually, Andrei was right the cd includes not only the ppp but both
 packages. When I issued the aptitude install ppp command that
 installed the pppconfig as well. After the installation everything
 went smoothly. So I am now up and running happily; in the meantime, I
 would like to thank to everyone who helped me solving this problem. I
 have one minor glitch left.  I can issue the pon command only in
 root mode. Is there a way of changing that to a simple user mode? 

Run this as root (replace user_name with the username you want to use):

adduser user_name dip

This will work only after the user is logged out and back in.

Regards,
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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik

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- Original Message 
From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:32:56 AM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

On Saturday 24 March 2007 15:00, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
---}
---} 
---}
---} - Original Message 
---} From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---} To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
---} Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:01:56 PM
---} Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found
---}
---} On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our
 perusal: ---} ---} Hi,
---} ---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via
 an ---}  external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the
 message ---}  command not found. pppconfig always worked for me before.
 Now I dont know ---}  how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after
 installation my ubuntu on ---}  the other partition doesn't see the
 partitions any longer. What could be ---}  the problem. ---}
---} ---} jmak
---}
---} Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?
---}
---} Actually the pppconfig is not installed from some reasons. I thought
 when I install the distro the pppconfig is part of the istallation. So what
 can I do now? ---}
---} jmak
---}
---} (Sorry the previous email went to the wrong place)

Easily fixed; as root just type apt-get install pppconfig [without the 
quotes of course] into a terminal. Once installed just run it in the same 
terminal as root.

HTH
Charlie

Thanks,
But the pppconfig package cannot be found on the cd and I cannot connect to the 
internet to install it. Is there way to connect to the internet without 
pppconfig?

Jmak




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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[major snip due to bad quoting of yahoo]

 Thanks,
 But the pppconfig package cannot be found on the cd and I cannot
 connect to the internet to install it. Is there way to connect to the
 internet without pppconfig?
 
 Jmak

Yes, you can write/edit the config files yourself. You will need to
change at least /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/ppp/pap-secrets (or
chap-secrets)

See 'man pppd' and the docs in /usr/share/doc/ppp/ for more info.

HTH,
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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik


- Original Message 
From: Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:51:50 AM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[major snip due to bad quoting of yahoo]

 Thanks,
 But the pppconfig package cannot be found on the cd and I cannot
 connect to the internet to install it. Is there way to connect to the
 internet without pppconfig?
 
 Jmak

Yes, you can write/edit the config files yourself. You will need to
change at least /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/ppp/pap-secrets (or
chap-secrets)

See 'man pppd' and the docs in /usr/share/doc/ppp/ for more info.

Thanks for the reply,

I just start realizing that something is wrong with this installation because 
many files are missing. There is no /etc/ppp/provider file there is no man 
pppd, the  /usr/share/doc/ppp entry is also missing. I guess I have to wait and 
reinstall it when the final will come out. 
I have never experienced something like this before.

Jmak




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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the reply,
 
 I just start realizing that something is wrong with this installation
 because many files are missing. There is no /etc/ppp/provider file
 there is no man pppd, the  /usr/share/doc/ppp entry is also missing.
 I guess I have to wait and reinstall it when the final will come out.
 I have never experienced something like this before.

Are you sure you have the package ppp installed? What are you
installing from?

Regards,
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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik

- Original Message 
From: Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:46:58 AM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the reply,
 
 I just start realizing that something is wrong with this installation
 because many files are missing. There is no /etc/ppp/provider file
 there is no man pppd, the  /usr/share/doc/ppp entry is also missing.
 I guess I have to wait and reinstall it when the final will come out.
 I have never experienced something like this before.

Are you sure you have the package ppp installed? What are you
installing from?

No, the pppconfig package is not installed from some strange reason. And I 
cannot connect to the internet to download it. 




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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you sure you have the package ppp installed? What are you
 installing from?
 
 No, the pppconfig package is not installed from some strange reason.
 And I cannot connect to the internet to download it. 

Please read again. I asked about the *ppp* package, not pppconfig. ppp
is the one who actually does the work. pppconfig is just a convenient
way to setup things.

BTW, you are able to read your e-mail. Why can't you download packages?

Regards,
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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Marko Randjelovic


No, the pppconfig package is not installed from some strange reason. And I cannot connect to the internet to download it. 

  



If you can post to this mailing list, then you have internet access from 
some other computer. I think it should be enough to download just these 
two files:


http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.3.15_all.deb

They can fit even of floppy disk. Then take it to your computer, mount 
the floppy or whatever, change to mount directory and install with


dpkg -i ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb
dpkg -i pppconfig_2.3.15_all.deb

Just to mention, since you are on dial-up, it would be probably the best 
to acquire Etch DVDs.



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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto


If you can post to this mailing list, then you have internet access from
some other computer. I think it should be enough to download just these
two files:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb


How do you know his architecture is amd64?

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik


- Original Message 
From: Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:23:45 AM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you sure you have the package ppp installed? What are you
 installing from?
 
 No, the pppconfig package is not installed from some strange reason.
 And I cannot connect to the internet to download it. 

Please read again. I asked about the *ppp* package, not pppconfig. ppp
is the one who actually does the work. pppconfig is just a convenient
way to setup things.

BTW, you are able to read your e-mail. Why can't you download packages?

Forgive my ignorance but I am not sure how to respond to your question. How 
should I figure that the ppp package is installed?
By the way, I also have ubuntu installed on a separate partition, this is how I 
can connect to the internet.

Jmak




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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik
 - Original Message From: Marko Randjelovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:24:44 AM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found


 No, the pppconfig package is not installed from some strange reason. And I 
 cannot connect to the internet to download it. 

   


If you can post to this mailing list, then you have internet access from 
some other computer. I think it should be enough to download just these 
two files:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pppconfig/pppconfig_2.3.15_all.deb

They can fit even of floppy disk. Then take it to your computer, mount 
the floppy or whatever, change to mount directory and install with

dpkg -i ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb
dpkg -i pppconfig_2.3.15_all.deb

Just to mention, since you are on dial-up, it would be probably the best 
to acquire Etch DVDs.

Thanks for the pppconfig package but I cannot install it because of dependency 
problems.

jmak





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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Marko Randjelovic

Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:


If you can post to this mailing list, then you have internet
access from
some other computer. I think it should be enough to download just
these
two files:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb

How do you know his architecture is amd64?

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Right, sorry about that.

Replace amd64 with your architecture. You can type

$ apt-cache show libc6 | grep Architecture

to see what is your arch (withoout dollar sign, of course).


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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik

- Original Message 
From: Marko Randjelovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:27:56 AM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:

 If you can post to this mailing list, then you have internet
 access from
 some other computer. I think it should be enough to download just
 these
 two files:

 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb

 How do you know his architecture is amd64?

 -- 
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Right, sorry about that.

Replace amd64 with your architecture. You can type

$ apt-cache show libc6 | grep Architecture

My architecture is i386.




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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto



Thanks for the pppconfig package but I cannot install it because of
dependency problems.

jmak



Which dependecy problems? Help us help you. You can always paste the
relevant information in your email (in this case, it would be the output of
dpkg).
Also, depending on the amount of missing packages, you can easily download
them from Ubuntu.

And a question to the other listeners in this thread: it would be amazingly
convenient if apt-get could generate a list of packages to be downloaded
from the net. Preferably in a format easily  parseable by wget. Is it
possible?

The game dowload .deb of x, dpkg -i x, x needs y, dwonload .deb of y, dpkg
-i y, y needs w and z... is no fun.

Another question: from Ubuntu, can he get into Debian and use apt-get? In
this way, Ubuntu would provide the internet connection. I don't know if
chroot would do the trick.

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik

- Original Message 
From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:59:00 AM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found


Thanks for the pppconfig package but I cannot install it because of dependency 
problems.


jmak
Which dependecy problems? Help us help you. You can always paste the relevant 
information in your email (in this case, it would be the output of dpkg). 
Also, depending on the amount of missing packages, you can easily download them 
from Ubuntu. 


This was the output massage:
depends on ppp (=2.3.7)
package ppp is not installed

Jmak







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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto


Which dependecy problems? Help us help you. You can always paste the
relevant information in your email (in this case, it would be the output of
dpkg).
Also, depending on the amount of missing packages, you can easily download
them from Ubuntu.

This was the output massage:
depends on ppp (=2.3.7)
package ppp is not installed


Marko Randjelovic asked you to install the package
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.4rel-8_amd64.deb
He only forgot that such package is for the amd64 architecture. You should
download the package for the i386 architecture. That should be the same URL,
with amd64 replaced by i386.

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Joe Hart
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eklektik wrote:
 http://jozmak.googlepages.com
 
 - Original Message 
 From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:32:56 AM
 Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found
 
 On Saturday 24 March 2007 15:00, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
 ---}
 ---} 
 ---}
 ---} - Original Message 
 ---} From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---} To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 ---} Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:01:56 PM
 ---} Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found
 ---}
 ---} On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our
 perusal: ---} ---} Hi,
 ---} ---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via
 an ---}  external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the
 message ---}  command not found. pppconfig always worked for me before.
 Now I dont know ---}  how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after
 installation my ubuntu on ---}  the other partition doesn't see the
 partitions any longer. What could be ---}  the problem. ---}
 ---} ---} jmak
 ---}
 ---} Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?
 ---}
 ---} Actually the pppconfig is not installed from some reasons. I thought
 when I install the distro the pppconfig is part of the istallation. So what
 can I do now? ---}
 ---} jmak
 ---}
 ---} (Sorry the previous email went to the wrong place)
 
 Easily fixed; as root just type apt-get install pppconfig [without the 
 quotes of course] into a terminal. Once installed just run it in the same 
 terminal as root.
 
 HTH
 Charlie
 
 Thanks,
 But the pppconfig package cannot be found on the cd and I cannot connect to 
 the internet to install it. Is there way to connect to the internet without 
 pppconfig?
 
 Jmak
 
 
 
 
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The catch-22.  How can you install something from the internet if you
can't connect to the internet.  Been there, done that.

Solution.  Use another distro (like knoppix) that comes with pppconfig
and download the ppconfig.deb file and put it somewhere on the hard
drive, then you can use dpkg to install it when you reboot.

Joe

Joe

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Wackojacko

Joe Hart wrote:

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eklektik wrote:

http://jozmak.googlepages.com

- Original Message 
From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:32:56 AM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

On Saturday 24 March 2007 15:00, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:

---}
---} 
---}

---} - Original Message 
---} From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---} To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
---} Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:01:56 PM
---} Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found
---}
---} On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our
perusal: ---} ---} Hi,
---} ---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via
an ---}  external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the
message ---}  command not found. pppconfig always worked for me before.
Now I dont know ---}  how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after
installation my ubuntu on ---}  the other partition doesn't see the
partitions any longer. What could be ---}  the problem. ---}
---} ---} jmak
---}
---} Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?
---}
---} Actually the pppconfig is not installed from some reasons. I thought
when I install the distro the pppconfig is part of the istallation. So what
can I do now? ---}
---} jmak
---}
---} (Sorry the previous email went to the wrong place)
Easily fixed; as root just type apt-get install pppconfig [without the 
quotes of course] into a terminal. Once installed just run it in the same 
terminal as root.


HTH
Charlie

Thanks,
But the pppconfig package cannot be found on the cd and I cannot connect to the 
internet to install it. Is there way to connect to the internet without 
pppconfig?

Jmak




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The catch-22.  How can you install something from the internet if you
can't connect to the internet.  Been there, done that.

Solution.  Use another distro (like knoppix) that comes with pppconfig
and download the ppconfig.deb file and put it somewhere on the hard
drive, then you can use dpkg to install it when you reboot.

Joe

Joe

Or, as someone has already hinted at, the OP could boot into the Ubuntu 
partition he already has installed and then *chroot* into the debian 
partition and run apt-get as normal using the internet connection from 
ubuntu.


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Joe Hart
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Wackojacko wrote:
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 eklektik wrote:
 http://jozmak.googlepages.com

 - Original Message 
 From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:32:56 AM
 Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

 On Saturday 24 March 2007 15:00, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
 ---}
 ---} ---}
 ---} - Original Message 
 ---} From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---} To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 ---} Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:01:56 PM
 ---} Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found
 ---}
 ---} On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our
 perusal: ---} ---} Hi,
 ---} ---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the
 Internet via
 an ---}  external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I
 get the
 message ---}  command not found. pppconfig always worked for me
 before.
 Now I dont know ---}  how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after
 installation my ubuntu on ---}  the other partition doesn't see the
 partitions any longer. What could be ---}  the problem. ---}
 ---} ---} jmak
 ---}
 ---} Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?
 ---}
 ---} Actually the pppconfig is not installed from some reasons. I
 thought
 when I install the distro the pppconfig is part of the istallation.
 So what
 can I do now? ---}
 ---} jmak
 ---}
 ---} (Sorry the previous email went to the wrong place)
 Easily fixed; as root just type apt-get install pppconfig [without
 the quotes of course] into a terminal. Once installed just run it in
 the same terminal as root.

 HTH
 Charlie

 Thanks,
 But the pppconfig package cannot be found on the cd and I cannot
 connect to the internet to install it. Is there way to connect to the
 internet without pppconfig?

 Jmak




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 The catch-22.  How can you install something from the internet if you
 can't connect to the internet.  Been there, done that.

 Solution.  Use another distro (like knoppix) that comes with pppconfig
 and download the ppconfig.deb file and put it somewhere on the hard
 drive, then you can use dpkg to install it when you reboot.

 Joe

 Joe

 Or, as someone has already hinted at, the OP could boot into the Ubuntu
 partition he already has installed and then *chroot* into the debian
 partition and run apt-get as normal using the internet connection from
 ubuntu.
 
 HTH
 
 Wackojacko
 
 
Yes indeed.  I answered the message *before* I saw the other posts.  My
fault for not checking the rest of the thread, or icedove's fault for
not telling me other messages were in the thread in the first place.
Whatever, the OP should have all the information in now needs.  If he
can't do it, then well, maybe he should just stick with Ubuntu.

Joe

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik


- Original Message 
From: Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:58:48 PM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

eklektik wrote:

 This was the output massage:
 depends on ppp (=2.3.7)
 package ppp is not installed
 
 Jmak

I suspect that you didn't choose the right install options.  You may
be able to correct the problem by re-running the installer,
called base-install.  Try man base-install to see if there's a
man page.

There may be a more fundamental problem, however.  Earlier you posted
that your installation media lacks pppconfig, which is part of the main 
distribution. Do you have a full set of the installation media?  You
should not have to run around the net looking for missing pieces.



 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc2/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso

I didn't see CD-2, so I suspect CD-1 was the only available iso for xfce.

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Marty

eklektik wrote:


- Original Message 
From: Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:58:48 PM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

eklektik wrote:


This was the output massage:
depends on ppp (=2.3.7)
package ppp is not installed

Jmak


I suspect that you didn't choose the right install options.  You may
be able to correct the problem by re-running the installer,
called base-install.  Try man base-install to see if there's a
man page.

There may be a more fundamental problem, however.  Earlier you posted
that your installation media lacks pppconfig, which is part of the main 
distribution. Do you have a full set of the installation media?  You

should not have to run around the net looking for missing pieces.


snip

 --This is the repository  I downloaded from.

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc2/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso

I didn't see CD-2, so I suspect CD-1 was the only available iso for xfce.

jmak


Apparently somebody decided that ppp and pppconfig are not essential.  I think 
your case suggests that it is, so you might want to take up the issue on a

developer list such as debian-cd or debian-testing, or just file a bug report.

In the meantime you can find the dependancies of ppp using the command 
apt-cache depends ppp and install each of those dependancies before you

installing ppp and pppconfig.

Here is the output I get on Sarge:

$ apt-cache depends ppp
ppp
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libpam0g
  Depends: libpcap0.7
  Depends: zlib1g
  Depends: libpam-modules
  Depends: libpam-runtime
  Depends: netbase
  Depends: procps
  Depends: makedev
  Suggests: libatm1
  Conflicts: ppp-pam
  Conflicts: ppp-udeb
  Conflicts: pppdcapiplugin
  Replaces: ppp-pam
  Replaces: ppp-udeb


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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Apparently somebody decided that ppp and pppconfig are not
 essential.  I think your case suggests that it is, so you might want
 to take up the issue on a developer list such as debian-cd or
 debian-testing, or just file a bug report.

ppp is definitely included on the xfce disk. 'aptitude install ppp'
should do the trick. pppconfig however is not.

Regards,
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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik

- Original Message 
From: Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 4:19:23 PM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

eklektik wrote:
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:58:48 PM
 Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found
 
 eklektik wrote:
 
 This was the output massage:
 depends on ppp (=2.3.7)
 package ppp is not installed
 
 Jmak
 
 I suspect that you didn't choose the right install options.  You may
 be able to correct the problem by re-running the installer,
 called base-install.  Try man base-install to see if there's a
 man page.
 
 There may be a more fundamental problem, however.  Earlier you posted
 that your installation media lacks pppconfig, which is part of the main 
 distribution. Do you have a full set of the installation media?  You
 should not have to run around the net looking for missing pieces.

snip
  --This is the repository  I downloaded from.
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc2/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso
 
 I didn't see CD-2, so I suspect CD-1 was the only available iso for xfce.
 
 jmak

Apparently somebody decided that ppp and pppconfig are not essential.  I think 
your case suggests that it is, so you might want to take up the issue on a
developer list such as debian-cd or debian-testing, or just file a bug report.

In the meantime you can find the dependancies of ppp using the command 
apt-cache depends ppp and install each of those dependancies before you
installing ppp and pppconfig.

Here is the output I get on Sarge:

$ apt-cache depends ppp
ppp
   Depends: libc6
   Depends: libpam0g
   Depends: libpcap0.7
   Depends: zlib1g
   Depends: libpam-modules
   Depends: libpam-runtime
   Depends: netbase
   Depends: procps
   Depends: makedev
   Suggests: libatm1
   Conflicts: ppp-pam
   Conflicts: ppp-udeb
   Conflicts: pppdcapiplugin
   Replaces: ppp-pam
   Replaces: ppp-udeb


Thanks for clarifying the issue. I wait till the final version come out hoping 
that it will include the package. In the mean time I take up the issue on the 
developer-testing list or file a bug report as you suggested.

Jmak




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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for clarifying the issue. I wait till the final version come
 out hoping that it will include the package. In the mean time I take
 up the issue on the developer-testing list or file a bug report as
 you suggested.

ppp *is* included on the xfce disk, but not pppconfig. This will
probably not change on the final version because packages are included
by popularity.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto


Thanks for clarifying the issue. I wait till the final version come out
hoping that it will include the package. In the mean time I take up the
issue on the developer-testing list or file a bug report as you suggested.


It seems that all you have to do is install two packages, ppp and pppconfig.
If the claim that ppp is in the CD is correct, you can install ppp from the
CD and dpkg -i pppconfig from the .deb.

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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread M-L
On Sunday 25 March 2007 06:58, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
cut huge chunks and spaces
---} Thanks for clarifying the issue. I wait till the final version come out
 hoping that it will include the package. In the mean time I take up the
 issue on the developer-testing list or file a bug report as you suggested.
 ---}
---} Jmak

I usually install with expert typed in at the command prompt so I have more 
control, and once the base system is installed and reboots, select my own 
packages. This works in Sarge as well as Etch. I have an early and broken 
install for the latter and can still install etch from that. So it works.

But even on a just hit Enter install you may get a list of modules to load 
during the install. Use cursor keys to scroll down to the ppp module, and the 
space bar to select it. Then continue.

At some point in the install the installer asks if you want to install from 
the Internet. Even if you are not connected, select yes. Have your modem 
switched on anyway.

Then the installer will ask if you want to configure ppp or a connection to 
the Internet? Again answer yes, then go through the prompts and unless you 
want it for another name allow provider to be the default and answer 
correctly at the prompt for telephone number, login name etc.. When complete 
and it's presented to you at the end of this process. Read it and make 
certain all is well, and select yes to have it written to the file.

Then get back to the installers main menu and keep going.

You will find that the installer will dial out for you. If you have an 
Internet connection and your modem switched on, it will connect, if you've 
supplied the correct information.

That will happen even as you are answering questions and will show what is 
happening on your monitor.

You don't have to install from the Internet then, you can just keep using your 
CD/DVD. The installer will tell you what it can't get hold of or whatever as 
it goes along.

It's then up to you if you disconnect or leave the system connected. I usually 
don't like to leave the system connected until I have a firewall enabled and 
configured. But having said that, I have also left the connection on, and 
found the default firewall very good. 

I think that pppconfig is not on the disks, in etch at any rate, till the 
third CD, if you're installing from CD. So maybe that's why you can't find it 
if you have only one. But as you see, the installer will create the dialup 
files for you during the install, if you request it to do so.

HTH
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[Almost solved]Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-24 Thread eklektik

- Original Message 
From: Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 5:07:38 PM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

eklektik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for clarifying the issue. I wait till the final version come
 out hoping that it will include the package. In the mean time I take
 up the issue on the developer-testing list or file a bug report as
 you suggested.

ppp *is* included on the xfce disk, but not pppconfig. This will
probably not change on the final version because packages are included
by popularity.

Regards,
Andrei
-- 
Actually, Andrei was right the cd includes not only the ppp but both packages. 
When I issued the aptitude install ppp command that installed the pppconfig 
as well. After the installation everything went smoothly. So I am now up and 
running happily; in the meantime, I would like to thank to everyone who helped 
me solving this problem. I have one minor glitch left.  I can issue the pon 
command only in root mode. Is there a way of changing that to a simple user 
mode? 

Thanks alot,
Jmak




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pppconfig command not found

2007-03-23 Thread eklektik
Hi,
I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via an external 
modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the message command not 
found. pppconfig always worked for me before. Now I dont know how to hook up 
to the internet.
Also after installation my ubuntu on the other partition doesn't see the 
partitions any longer. What could be the problem.  

jmak
 



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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-23 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto


Also after installation my ubuntu on the other partition doesn't see the
partitions any longer. What could be the problem.


If I understood right, when you installed Etch, Ubuntu ceased to see the
partitions in which Etch was installed.
Perhaps you changed the filesystem in the partition when you installed Etch;
see your /etc/fstab in Ubuntu and verify if it is correct.




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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-23 Thread M-L
On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
---} Hi,
---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via an
 external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the message
 command not found. pppconfig always worked for me before. Now I dont know
 how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after installation my ubuntu on
 the other partition doesn't see the partitions any longer. What could be
 the problem. ---}
---} jmak

Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?

Charlie
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our personal desires and affection of a few persons nearest to us. Our task 
must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of 
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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-23 Thread eklektik

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- Original Message 
From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:01:56 PM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
---} Hi,
---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via an
 external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the message
 command not found. pppconfig always worked for me before. Now I dont know
 how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after installation my ubuntu on
 the other partition doesn't see the partitions any longer. What could be
 the problem. ---}
---} jmak

Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?

Actually the pppconfig is not installed from some reasons. I thought when I 
install the distro the pppconfig is part of the istallation. So what can I do 
now? 

jmak

(Sorry the previous email went to the wrong place)




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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-23 Thread eklektik

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- Original Message 
From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:41:47 PM
Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found

Also after installation my ubuntu on the other partition doesn't see the 
partitions any longer. What could be the problem.
If I understood right, when you installed Etch, Ubuntu ceased to see the 
partitions in which Etch was installed.
Perhaps you changed the filesystem in the partition when you installed Etch; 
see your /etc/fstab in Ubuntu and verify if it is correct. 



 That's exactly what happened. But for that problem I found a solution. In 
/etc/default/rcS I changed the FSCKFIX=no to yes. Now, Ubuntu sees the 
partitions again. So that is ok now. But i have no clue why this happened. I 
didnt touched anything and the installation went without a glitch. The problem 
now is that I dont have pppconfig installed.

jmak






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Re: pppconfig command not found

2007-03-23 Thread M-L
On Saturday 24 March 2007 15:00, eklektik sent this for all our perusal:
---}
---} http://jozmak.googlepages.com
---}
---} - Original Message 
---} From: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---} To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
---} Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:01:56 PM
---} Subject: Re: pppconfig command not found
---}
---} On Saturday 24 March 2007 11:54, eklektik sent this for all our
 perusal: ---} ---} Hi,
---} ---} I've just installed etch and want to hook up to the Internet via
 an ---}  external modem. But when I issue the command pppconfig I get the
 message ---}  command not found. pppconfig always worked for me before.
 Now I dont know ---}  how to hook up to the internet. ---} Also after
 installation my ubuntu on ---}  the other partition doesn't see the
 partitions any longer. What could be ---}  the problem. ---}
---} ---} jmak
---}
---} Probably a silly question but :- did you install pppconfig?
---}
---} Actually the pppconfig is not installed from some reasons. I thought
 when I install the distro the pppconfig is part of the istallation. So what
 can I do now? ---}
---} jmak
---}
---} (Sorry the previous email went to the wrong place)

Easily fixed; as root just type apt-get install pppconfig [without the 
quotes of course] into a terminal. Once installed just run it in the same 
terminal as root.

HTH
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