Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

2003-10-02 Thread Alphonse Ogulla
On Thursday 02 October 2003 17:57, you wrote:
 On Thursday 02 October 2003 16:57, you wrote:
  I never dreamed that this would be such a difficult problem.I added
  myself to the dip group (perhaps I was already there because the number
  beside my user name (in /etc/group)was 1000. Anyway I added myself to
  pppusers and dialout too. And the very same message:
   Can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission
   denied  appears. I did a chown 777 on the whole string of files but
  still the same error message. Yes I am discouraged. Thanks for the help
  and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a shot. I'm out of
  ideas.

 what are the permissions of /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net? Issue ls -l
 against the file and post the output.

In addition, post the output of the following command sequence

$ whoami ; grep dip /etc/group

Alphonse Ogulla
Nairobi, Kenya

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Re: FW: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

2003-10-02 Thread Alphonse Ogulla
On Thursday 02 October 2003 16:57, you wrote:
 I never dreamed that this would be such a difficult problem.I added
 myself to the dip group (perhaps I was already there because the number
 beside my user name (in /etc/group)was 1000. Anyway I added myself to
 pppusers and dialout too. And the very same message:
  Can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission
  denied  appears. I did a chown 777 on the whole string of files but
 still the same error message. Yes I am discouraged. Thanks for the help
 and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a shot. I'm out of ideas.

what are the permissions of /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net? Issue ls -l against 
the file and post the output.

Alphonse Ogulla
Nairobi, Kenya

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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-10-01 Thread cr
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:11, cr wrote:
 On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:52, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
  Hi!
 
  On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
   Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to
   authenticate itself Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: but I couldn't
   find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. Sep 26
   05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: (None of the available passwords would let
   it use an IP address.)
  
   I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the
   'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I
   copied the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't
   work either.
 
  Add following line to /etc/ppp/options:
 
  noauth
 
  So long
  Thomas

 Or alternatively, after bringing up Kppp, go

 Setup -  [select account] - Edit - Customise pppd - [type in ] noauth 
 - Add

 I've just had to do that, half an hour ago, and it works.

Just to correct myself - that *only* works if you're Root.(Even though I 
first saw it suggested on some website!)

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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? help?

2003-10-01 Thread cr
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 16:32, J Y wrote:
 Hi, I did the following:

 Copy  /etc/ppp/peers/provider   as  /etc/ppp/peers/orcon
 and edit the file 'orcon' to suit  (e.g. include 'noauth', and in my case
 comment out the sample chat script
 # connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider )

 Then, to use the 'call' option with Kppp, just do

 Setup - (Orcon Internet) - Edit - pppd arguments -
 [type in:]  call orcon   - Add


 Hope I've got this right.

 cr

 and got this response from internet dialer/kppp:

 Sep 3023:00:23 deblnx ppd(1626): Can't open options file
 /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission denied   I know that this is a
 permissions problem, now, But I don't know how to fix it. I have tried a
 chmod ug +x on the file 'highstream.net but that didn't work. I can't
 imagine that I need to change permissions or owner for the whole file
 listing. What is the answer to this please?  Thanks

(Copy to J Y in case he's still not getting the list posts)

I'm no expert at all, but for what it's worth, my file
/etc/ppp/peers/orcon   is as follows:

-rw-r-1 root dip   580 Oct  1 10:28 orcon

(I didn't set any of that specially, it was just what the sample file 
'provider' had)
and I'd already added myself (as user cr) to group  dip.

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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? help?

2003-10-01 Thread J Y
Thanks and where is group dip located? I did a whereis and locate for
dip but got hundrends of files. Really thanks again.

Quoting cr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 16:32, J Y wrote:
  Hi, I did the following:
 
  Copy  /etc/ppp/peers/provider   as  /etc/ppp/peers/orcon
  and edit the file 'orcon' to suit  (e.g. include 'noauth', and in my
case
  comment out the sample chat script
  # connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider )
 
  Then, to use the 'call' option with Kppp, just do
 
  Setup - (Orcon Internet) - Edit - pppd arguments -
  [type in:]  call orcon   - Add
 
 
  Hope I've got this right.
 
  cr
 
  and got this response from internet dialer/kppp:
 
  Sep 3023:00:23 deblnx ppd(1626): Can't open options file
  /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission denied   I know that this is a
  permissions problem, now, But I don't know how to fix it. I have tried a
  chmod ug +x on the file 'highstream.net but that didn't work. I can't
  imagine that I need to change permissions or owner for the whole file
  listing. What is the answer to this please?  Thanks

 (Copy to J Y in case he's still not getting the list posts)

 I'm no expert at all, but for what it's worth, my file
 /etc/ppp/peers/orcon   is as follows:

 -rw-r-1 root dip   580 Oct  1 10:28 orcon

 (I didn't set any of that specially, it was just what the sample file
 'provider' had)
 and I'd already added myself (as user cr) to group  dip.

 cr


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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? help?

2003-10-01 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

J Y ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Quoting cr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm no expert at all, but for what it's worth, my file
 /etc/ppp/peers/orcon   is as follows:

 -rw-r-1 root dip   580 Oct  1 10:28 orcon

 (I didn't set any of that specially, it was just what the sample file
 'provider' had)
 and I'd already added myself (as user cr) to group  dip.

 Thanks and where is group dip located? I did a whereis and locate for
 dip but got hundrends of files. Really thanks again.

Use the adduser command to add users to a group or edit /etc/group.

best regards
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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

2003-10-01 Thread J Y
I never dreamed that this would be such a difficult problem.I added
myself to the dip group (perhaps I was already there because the number
beside my user name (in /etc/group)was 1000. Anyway I added myself to
pppusers and dialout too. And the very same message:
 Can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission
 denied  appears. I did a chown 777 on the whole string of files but
still the same error message. Yes I am discouraged. Thanks for the help 
and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a shot. I'm out of ideas. 

Quoting J Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thanks and where is group dip located? I did a whereis and locate for
 dip but got hundrends of files. Really thanks again.

 Quoting cr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 16:32, J Y wrote:
   Hi, I did the following:
  
   Copy  /etc/ppp/peers/provider   as  /etc/ppp/peers/orcon
   and edit the file 'orcon' to suit  (e.g. include 'noauth', and in my
 case
   comment out the sample chat script
   # connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider )
  
   Then, to use the 'call' option with Kppp, just do
  
   Setup - (Orcon Internet) - Edit - pppd arguments -
   [type in:]  call orcon   - Add
  
  
   Hope I've got this right.
  
   cr
  
   and got this response from internet dialer/kppp:
  
   Sep 3023:00:23 deblnx ppd(1626): Can't open options file
   /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission denied   I know that this is
 a
   permissions problem, now, But I don't know how to fix it. I have tried
 a
   chmod ug +x on the file 'highstream.net but that didn't work. I can't
   imagine that I need to change permissions or owner for the whole file
   listing. What is the answer to this please?  Thanks
 
  (Copy to J Y in case he's still not getting the list posts)
 
  I'm no expert at all, but for what it's worth, my file
  /etc/ppp/peers/orcon   is as follows:
 
  -rw-r-1 root dip   580 Oct  1 10:28 orcon
 
  (I didn't set any of that specially, it was just what the sample file
  'provider' had)
  and I'd already added myself (as user cr) to group  dip.
 
  cr
 
 
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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

2003-10-01 Thread John Hasler
J Y writes:
 Thanks for the help and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a
 shot. I'm out of ideas.

Run pppconfig as root to configure ppp.  Use pon to start the connection
and poff to stop it.  If you require a GUI install gpppon.
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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

2003-10-01 Thread J Y
I tried some other things like 1) uncommenting the auth line in
/etc/ppp/options I tried to apt-get install ppp and the response was
the current version is the most recent. I ran linuxconf and made sure I
was in the ppp group-I am. I also uncommented debug in /etc/ppp/ttyS4
options. That's my modem. When I ran kppp this time, as a regular user
the message from kppp was: timeout expired while waiting for the PPP
interface to come up. The detail box provided: 

Oct  1 17:15:16 deblnx pppd[1049]: pppd 2.4.1 started by john, uid 1000 
Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Terminating on signal 15. 
Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Connect script failed 
Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Exit.

Quoting John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 J Y writes:
  Thanks for the help and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a
  shot. I'm out of ideas.

 Run pppconfig as root to configure ppp.  Use pon to start the connection
 and poff to stop it.  If you require a GUI install gpppon.
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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

2003-10-01 Thread J Y
Sorry John I some how sent this 1st message toy ou instead of to the
list. I only realized it when the post didn't appear. My apologies. 
Quoting John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 
 J Y writes: 
  Thanks for the help and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a 
  shot. I'm out of ideas. 
 
 Run pppconfig as root to configure ppp.  Use pon to start the connection 
 and poff to stop it.  If you require a GUI install gpppon. 
 -- 
 
  I ran pppconfig in root account, there didn't seem to be a password in 
the configuration I edited so I was hopeful. I entered the password I 
use to login with my isp; saved the configuration and exited. 
(Everything else in the highstream.net configuration was/is correct) 
 
I typed pon highstream.net at a terminal/shell. The modem dialed; there 
was no terminal output. I tried to use mozilla and just got that the 
location couldn't be found. When I typed poff at the terminal the 
terminal output was: no pppd is running none stopped
Quoting J Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I tried some other things like 1) uncommenting the auth line in
 /etc/ppp/options I tried to apt-get install ppp and the response was
 the current version is the most recent. I ran linuxconf and made sure I
 was in the ppp group-I am. I also uncommented debug in /etc/ppp/ttyS4
 options. That's my modem. When I ran kppp this time, as a regular user
 the message from kppp was: timeout expired while waiting for the PPP
 interface to come up. The detail box provided:

 Oct  1 17:15:16 deblnx pppd[1049]: pppd 2.4.1 started by john, uid 1000
 Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Terminating on signal 15.
 Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Connect script failed
 Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Exit.

 Quoting John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  J Y writes:
   Thanks for the help and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a
   shot. I'm out of ideas.
 
  Run pppconfig as root to configure ppp.  Use pon to start the connection
  and poff to stop it.  If you require a GUI install gpppon.
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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

2003-10-01 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

J Y ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I tried some other things like 1) uncommenting the auth line in
 /etc/ppp/options I tried to apt-get install ppp and the response was
 the current version is the most recent. I ran linuxconf and made sure
 I was in the ppp group-I am. 

My Debian system does not have a ppp group. This seems to be something
linuxconf-specific. By default, the group you must be in to use pppd is
dip:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ll /usr/sbin/pppd
-rwsr-xr--1 root dip230604 10. Dez 2001  /usr/sbin/pppd

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ll -d /etc/ppp/peers
drwxr-s---2 root dip  1024 15. Sep 23:49 /etc/ppp/peers

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ll /etc/ppp/peers
-rw-r-1 root dip   579 20. Jul 23:30 provider
-rw-r-1 root dip   275 15. Sep 23:49 T-Online

 I also uncommented debug in
 /etc/ppp/ttyS4 options. That's my modem. When I ran kppp this time, as
 a regular user the message from kppp was: timeout expired while
 waiting for the PPP interface to come up. The detail box provided:
 
 Oct  1 17:15:16 deblnx pppd[1049]: pppd 2.4.1 started by john, uid
 1000
 Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Terminating on signal 15.
 Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Connect script failed
 Oct  1 17:15:46 deblnx pppd[1049]: Exit.

Check the pppd man page for the meaning of its exit codes. This one
means:

The link was terminated because the peer is not responding to echo
requests.

This happens to me sometimes when I try do dial. When I try again, it
works. Did you try several times or only once?

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? help?

2003-09-30 Thread J Y
Hi, I did the following: 
 
Copy  /etc/ppp/peers/provider   as  /etc/ppp/peers/orcon 
and edit the file 'orcon' to suit  (e.g. include 'noauth', and in my case  
comment out the sample chat script 
# connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider ) 
 
Then, to use the 'call' option with Kppp, just do  
 
Setup - (Orcon Internet) - Edit - pppd arguments -  
[type in:]  call orcon   - Add 
 
 
Hope I've got this right. 
 
cr 
 
and got this response from internet dialer/kppp: 
 
Sep 3023:00:23 deblnx ppd(1626): Can't open options file
/etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission denied   I know that this is a
permissions problem, now, But I don't know how to fix it. I have tried a
chmod ug +x on the file 'highstream.net but that didn't work. I can't
imagine that I need to change permissions or owner for the whole file
listing. What is the answer to this please?  Thanks
 
 
 

Quoting cr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:58, John Hasler wrote:
  cr writes:
   Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to
   ppp?
 
  Add the user to the dip group.  It is not necessary to add the user to
  dialout as pppd opens the device while running as root.

 Thanks!   I added myself to the dip group, and sure enough kppp now starts
 up
 for me.

 I also remembered to add 'noauth' as an option in my kppp setup (which
 worked
 fine when I was dialling as root).However, Kppp dials in, OK, but as
 soon
 as connection is established it drops out with 'using noauth option
 requires
 root privilege'.

 If I remove the noauth option, then I'm back to the previous error of
 'remote
 system is required to authenticate itself'.

 The obvious 'fix' of adding myself to group 'root' is, I think, not a good
 idea   ;)

 However I seem to have fixed it - I'll include this in case it helps
 anyone:

 /etc/ppp/options   says:

 # Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network
 # packets to be sent or received.
 # Please do not disable this setting. It is expected to be standard in
 # future releases of pppd. Use the call option (see manpage) to disable
 # authentication for specific peers.
 auth

 So probably changing it to 'noauth' would work, but is, I assume, not
 approved. (And, reading between the lines, auth may be 'hard-wired' in
 in
 newer pppd's?)

 The 'correct' way seems to be  (my ISP is called 'Orcon' for purposes of
 illustration):

 Copy  /etc/ppp/peers/provider   as  /etc/ppp/peers/orcon
 and edit the file 'orcon' to suit  (e.g. include 'noauth', and in my case
 comment out the sample chat script
 # connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider )

 Then, to use the 'call' option with Kppp, just do

 Setup - (Orcon Internet) - Edit - pppd arguments -
 [type in:]  call orcon   - Add


 Hope I've got this right.

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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-29 Thread J Y
I don't know minicom at all. I've never used it. I have been 
thinking that I'm an idiot lately since I can't resolve this
problem. I don't think it has anything to do with my isp or I 
wouldn't be able to connect with SuSE 8.1  (yuck) Win ME, and tonight I
installed slackware 9.0 just 15 minutes ago, probably to prove I have
some brain cells left, and I plugged in my info and here I am using
slack and on the internet. I'm not looking for flame. I just don't know
what more to do with kppp or pppconfigure; /etc/ppp/options-pap-secerets
chap. I have looked at and edited more files read more man pages..yadda
yadda. I will reboot into deb and set up debug as someone else here
recommended. We'll see thanks again to all this has been a real hard to
figure out problem. JY

Quoting Pigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
  Hi Can anyone give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong?  I keep
  getting failure to authenticate messages. the following is from the kppp
  details box: 
  
  Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to
  authenticate itself 
  Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: but I couldn't find any suitable
  secret (password) for it to use to do so. 
  Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: (None of the available passwords
  would let it use an IP address.)
   
  I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the 
  'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I copied
  the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work
 either.
  Here's the results of pon 
  
  deblnx:~# pon highstream.net 
  Serial connection established.: 
  using channel 2 
  Using interface ppp0 
  Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS4 
  sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xcf506a80 pcomp
  accomp] 
  rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  00 04 00 00 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa
  auth chap MD5 pcomp accomp mrru 1524 endpoint
  [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]  1b 04 02 02] 
  sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1  00 04 00 00 mrru 1524  1b 04 02 02] 
  rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xcf506a80 pcomp
  accomp] 
  rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth chap MD5
  pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
  sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x2 auth pap] 
  rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth pap
  pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
  sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x3 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth pap
  pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
  sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xcf506a80] 
  sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=[EMAIL PROTECTED],net
 password=hid den] 
  rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0] 
  rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x1 ] 
  PAP authentication failed 
  sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 Failed to authenticate ourselves to 
  peer] 
  rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] 
  Connection terminated. 
  deblnx:~#

 The only time I have had anything similar to this, it was the ISP's
 box playing up. I tried connecting with minicom and entering my
 username and password by hand, and the server rejected the password.
 All I could do was wait until the ISP fixed it. Can you connect with
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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-29 Thread cr
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:58, John Hasler wrote:
 cr writes:
  Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to
  ppp?

 Add the user to the dip group.  It is not necessary to add the user to
 dialout as pppd opens the device while running as root.

Thanks!   I added myself to the dip group, and sure enough kppp now starts up 
for me.   

I also remembered to add 'noauth' as an option in my kppp setup (which worked 
fine when I was dialling as root).However, Kppp dials in, OK, but as soon 
as connection is established it drops out with 'using noauth option requires 
root privilege'.   

If I remove the noauth option, then I'm back to the previous error of 'remote 
system is required to authenticate itself'.

The obvious 'fix' of adding myself to group 'root' is, I think, not a good 
idea   ;)

However I seem to have fixed it - I'll include this in case it helps anyone:

/etc/ppp/options   says:

# Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network
# packets to be sent or received.
# Please do not disable this setting. It is expected to be standard in
# future releases of pppd. Use the call option (see manpage) to disable
# authentication for specific peers.
auth

So probably changing it to 'noauth' would work, but is, I assume, not 
approved. (And, reading between the lines, auth may be 'hard-wired' in in 
newer pppd's?)

The 'correct' way seems to be  (my ISP is called 'Orcon' for purposes of 
illustration):

Copy  /etc/ppp/peers/provider   as  /etc/ppp/peers/orcon
and edit the file 'orcon' to suit  (e.g. include 'noauth', and in my case 
comment out the sample chat script
# connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider )

Then, to use the 'call' option with Kppp, just do 

Setup - (Orcon Internet) - Edit - pppd arguments - 
[type in:]  call orcon   - Add


Hope I've got this right.

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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-29 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi!

Quoting cr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The obvious 'fix' of adding myself to group 'root' is, I think, not a good
 idea   ;)

Na, not a good idea ;-)

 However I seem to have fixed it - I'll include this in case it helps anyone:

 /etc/ppp/options   says:

 # Require the peer to authenticate itself before allowing network
 # packets to be sent or received.
 # Please do not disable this setting. It is expected to be standard in
 # future releases of pppd. Use the call option (see manpage) to disable
 # authentication for specific peers.
 auth

 So probably changing it to 'noauth' would work, but is, I assume, not
 approved. (And, reading between the lines, auth may be 'hard-wired' in in
 newer pppd's?)

Changing to noauth will help you.

 The 'correct' way seems to be  (my ISP is called 'Orcon' for purposes of
 illustration):

 Copy  /etc/ppp/peers/provider   as  /etc/ppp/peers/orcon
 and edit the file 'orcon' to suit  (e.g. include 'noauth', and in my case
 comment out the sample chat script
 # connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider )

 Then, to use the 'call' option with Kppp, just do

 Setup - (Orcon Internet) - Edit - pppd arguments -
 [type in:]  call orcon   - Add

Looks good.

So long
Thomas

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Re: : Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-28 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:59:25PM -0800, J Y wrote:
 After adding 'noauth'  to /etc/ppp/options kppp still fails with this
 message: 
  
 Sep 27 13:00:46 deblnx pppd[1153]: The remote system is required to
 authenticate itself 
 Sep 27 13:00:46 deblnx pppd[1153]: but I couldn't find any suitable
 secret (password) for it to use to do so. 
 Sep 27 13:00:46 deblnx pppd[1153]: (None of the available passwords
 would let it use an IP address.) 
  


  It could be that you need to set up /etc/ppp/pap-secrets. There
is sometimes another file, something about chap, that I don't use.
Perhaps you need it too. Have you tried looking in /usr/share/doc/ppp ? 
  You mentioned other distros. Perhaps you can compare
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets on those distros to the one in your Debian
installation.
  I don't know either what does 'pid of ppd: (###)' signifies. However 
it could be the wvdial way of saying that pppd was launched.

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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-28 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi!

On Tue Sep 30, 2003 at 04:11:49AM +1200, cr wrote:
 Curiously though, /etc/ppp/options still has  'auth'  in it,   while
 /etc/ppp/peers/provider   has  'noauth' (and already did, I think,
 even when I was having that 'drop-out' problem mentioned above).   I
 don't know how the two inter-relate, but evidently what I did in Kppp
 has changed something else somewhere.I was intending to ask for
 some clarification on this list.

pppd(8) says:

/etc/ppp/options
  System  default  options  for  pppd,  read  before  user default
  options or command-line options.

/etc/ppp/peers
  A  directory  containing  options files which may contain privi-
  leged options, even if pppd was invoked by  a  user  other  than
  root.  The system administrator can create options files in this
  directory to permit non-privileged users  to  dial  out  without
  requiring  the peer to authenticate, but only to certain trusted
  peers.

 Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to
 ppp?   I can think of a couple of ways that might work but I might as
 well do it the 'proper' way.   I don't need high security (being the
 only user) but I'm sure I shouldn't be posting as root;)

Adding the unpriviledged user to group dialout should be enough for
modem dialouts[1].

So long
Thomas

  1. http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/user/2002/12/msg01107.html

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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-28 Thread John Hasler
cr writes:
 Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to
 ppp?

Add the user to the dip group.  It is not necessary to add the user to
dialout as pppd opens the device while running as root.
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Re: pppd daemon dies follow-up

2003-09-28 Thread J Y
I seem to be batting zero. So I'll take a break.
And come back to it. 
Adding noauth from kppp or internet dialer as described below just got
me a 'ppp daemon died unexpectedly' message and the details box said
that noauth is only available to root. removing noauth from the kppp
setup (I edited /etc/ppp/options with 'noauth') gets me a connecting to
network message...but it ain't so! I don't get any error messages but
there is no connection. the browsers just say 'can't find the url'. lynx
however says there is no connection. 
When I type pon highstream.net the modem dials up (as it does with kppp
and wvdial) then it just sits there. No messages. when I type poff the
terminal message is no pppd running and none stopped. 

Quoting cr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:52, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
  Hi!
 
  On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
   Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to
   authenticate itself Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: but I couldn't
   find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. Sep 26
   05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: (None of the available passwords would let
 it
   use an IP address.)
  
   I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the
   'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I
 copied
   the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work
   either.
 
  Add following line to /etc/ppp/options:
 
  noauth
 
  So long
  Thomas

 Or alternatively, after bringing up Kppp, go

 Setup -  [select account] - Edit - Customise pppd - [type in ] noauth 
 -
 Add

 I've just had to do that, half an hour ago, and it works.

 (I just did a complete reinstall of Woody, for various reasons).

 Curiously though, /etc/ppp/options still has  'auth'  in it,   while
 /etc/ppp/peers/provider   has  'noauth' (and already did, I think, even
 when
 I was having that 'drop-out' problem mentioned above).   I don't know how
 the
 two inter-relate, but evidently what I did in Kppp has changed something
 else
 somewhere.I was intending to ask for some clarification on this list.

 Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to
ppp?

 I can think of a couple of ways that might work but I might as well do it
 the
 'proper' way.   I don't need high security (being the only user) but I'm
 sure
 I shouldn't be posting as root;)

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Re: pppd daemon dies follow-up+

2003-09-28 Thread J Y
I forgot to add, sorry, that I tried all of this i.e. pon, wvdial , kppp
logged in as root with identical results. Thanks.

Quoting J Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I seem to be batting zero. So I'll take a break.
 And come back to it.
 Adding noauth from kppp or internet dialer as described below just got
 me a 'ppp daemon died unexpectedly' message and the details box said
 that noauth is only available to root. removing noauth from the kppp
 setup (I edited /etc/ppp/options with 'noauth') gets me a connecting to
 network message...but it ain't so! I don't get any error messages but
 there is no connection. the browsers just say 'can't find the url'. lynx
 however says there is no connection.
 When I type pon highstream.net the modem dials up (as it does with kppp
 and wvdial) then it just sits there. No messages. when I type poff the
 terminal message is no pppd running and none stopped.

 Quoting cr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:52, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
   Hi!
  
   On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to
authenticate itself Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: but I
couldn't
find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. Sep 26
05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: (None of the available passwords would
 let
  it
use an IP address.)
   
I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the
'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I
  copied
the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work
either.
  
   Add following line to /etc/ppp/options:
  
   noauth
  
   So long
   Thomas
 
  Or alternatively, after bringing up Kppp, go
 
  Setup -  [select account] - Edit - Customise pppd - [type in ]
noauth

  -
  Add
 
  I've just had to do that, half an hour ago, and it works.
 
  (I just did a complete reinstall of Woody, for various reasons).
 
  Curiously though, /etc/ppp/options still has  'auth'  in it,   while
  /etc/ppp/peers/provider   has  'noauth' (and already did, I think, even
  when
  I was having that 'drop-out' problem mentioned above).   I don't
know how
  the
  two inter-relate, but evidently what I did in Kppp has changed something
  else
  somewhere.I was intending to ask for some clarification on this
list.
 
  Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to
 ppp?
 
  I can think of a couple of ways that might work but I might as well
do it
  the
  'proper' way.   I don't need high security (being the only user) but I'm
  sure
  I shouldn't be posting as root;)
 
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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-28 Thread Pigeon
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
 Hi Can anyone give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong?  I keep
 getting failure to authenticate messages. the following is from the kppp
 details box: 
 
 Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to
 authenticate itself 
 Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: but I couldn't find any suitable
 secret (password) for it to use to do so. 
 Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: (None of the available passwords
 would let it use an IP address.)
  
 I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the 
 'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I copied
 the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work either.
 Here's the results of pon 
 
 deblnx:~# pon highstream.net 
 Serial connection established.: 
 using channel 2 
 Using interface ppp0 
 Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS4 
 sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xcf506a80 pcomp
 accomp] 
 rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  00 04 00 00 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa
 auth chap MD5 pcomp accomp mrru 1524 endpoint
 [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]  1b 04 02 02] 
 sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1  00 04 00 00 mrru 1524  1b 04 02 02] 
 rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xcf506a80 pcomp
 accomp] 
 rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth chap MD5
 pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
 sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x2 auth pap] 
 rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth pap
 pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
 sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x3 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth pap
 pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
 sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xcf506a80] 
 sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=[EMAIL PROTECTED],net password=hidden] 
 rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0] 
 rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x1 ] 
 PAP authentication failed 
 sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 Failed to authenticate ourselves to 
 peer] 
 rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] 
 Connection terminated. 
 deblnx:~#

The only time I have had anything similar to this, it was the ISP's
box playing up. I tried connecting with minicom and entering my
username and password by hand, and the server rejected the password.
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Re: pppd daemon dies follow-up

2003-09-28 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi!

On Sun Sep 28, 2003 at 10:21:36AM -0800, J Y wrote:
 When I type pon highstream.net the modem dials up (as it does with kppp
 and wvdial) then it just sits there. No messages. when I type poff the
 terminal message is no pppd running and none stopped. 

Maybe the defaultroute is not setup properly. Can you post the output of
ifconfig and route before and after pon? If the defaultroute is broken
try to add

defaultroute

to /etc/ppp/options. Did you add

debug

to the options file? Maybe there is some enlighten log output.

So long
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Re: pppd daemon dies follow-up

2003-09-28 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi!

On Sun Sep 28, 2003 at 10:21:36AM -0800, J Y wrote:
 and wvdial) then it just sits there. No messages. when I type poff the
 terminal message is no pppd running and none stopped. 

I should read your post to the end ;-)

Please provide the complete log information from pppd with debug turned
on in /etc/ppp/options.

So long
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pppd daemon dies

2003-09-27 Thread J Y
Hi Can anyone give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong?  I keep
getting failure to authenticate messages. the following is from the kppp
details box: 

Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to
authenticate itself 
Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: but I couldn't find any suitable
secret (password) for it to use to do so. 
Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: (None of the available passwords
would let it use an IP address.)
 
I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the 
'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I copied
the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work either.
Here's the results of pon 

deblnx:~# pon highstream.net 
Serial connection established.: 
using channel 2 
Using interface ppp0 
Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS4 
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xcf506a80 pcomp
accomp] 
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  00 04 00 00 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa
auth chap MD5 pcomp accomp mrru 1524 endpoint
[MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]  1b 04 02 02] 
sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1  00 04 00 00 mrru 1524  1b 04 02 02] 
rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xcf506a80 pcomp
accomp] 
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth chap MD5
pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x2 auth pap] 
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth pap
pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x3 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa auth pap
pcomp accomp endpoint [MAC:00:c0:7b:8c:49:bf]] 
sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xcf506a80] 
sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user=[EMAIL PROTECTED],net password=hidden] 
rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0] 
rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x1 ] 
PAP authentication failed 
sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 Failed to authenticate ourselves to 
peer] 
rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2] 
Connection terminated. 
deblnx:~#

Once again thanks..JY

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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-27 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi!

On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
 Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to authenticate 
 itself 
 Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: but I couldn't find any suitable secret 
 (password) for it to use to do so. 
 Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: (None of the available passwords would let it use 
 an IP address.)
  
 I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the 
 'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I copied
 the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work either.

Add following line to /etc/ppp/options:

noauth

So long
Thomas

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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-27 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
  
 I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the 
 'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I copied
 the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work either.
   

 
  Do you still get auth when you issue

pon highstream.net dryrun

If so, perhaps other files under /etc/ppp have auth commented in?

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: Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-27 Thread J Y
After adding 'noauth'  to /etc/ppp/options kppp still fails with this
message: 
 
Sep 27 13:00:46 deblnx pppd[1153]: The remote system is required to
authenticate itself 
Sep 27 13:00:46 deblnx pppd[1153]: but I couldn't find any suitable
secret (password) for it to use to do so. 
Sep 27 13:00:46 deblnx pppd[1153]: (None of the available passwords
would let it use an IP address.) 
 
and wvdial has this output.  
 
deblnx:~# wvdial 
-- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53 
-- Initializing modem. 
-- Sending: ATZ 
ATZ 
OK 
-- Modem initialized. 
-- Sending: ATDT3124074 
-- Waiting for carrier. 
ATDT3124074 
CONNECT 28800/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS 
-- Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt. 
Level 3 Comm nas1.alb1 UQKT2 
Username:/login:/Login: 
-- Looks like a login prompt. 
-- Sending: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Password: 
-- Looks like a password prompt. 
-- Sending: (password) 
Entering PPP Session. 
IP address is 67.75.62.220 
MTU is 1500. 
-- Looks like a welcome message. 
-- Starting pppd at Sat Sep 27 12:47:17 2003 
-- pid of pppd: 959 
No internet connection occurs. I think in other distros I would get a  
'we are connected' message from wvdial, but I haven't used wvdial in
awhile. I don't know what the  
'pid of ppd: (###)' signifies 
 
pon highstream.net dryrun gives this output: 
 
/highstream.net) 
/dev/ttyS4  # (from /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net)115200   
  # (from /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net) 
lock# (from /etc/ppp/options) 
connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/highstream.net # (from
/etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net) 
crtscts # (from /etc/ppp/options) 
modem   # (from /etc/ppp/options) 
asyncmap 0  # (from /etc/ppp/options) 
lcp-echo-failure 4  # (from /etc/ppp/options) 
lcp-echo-interval 30# (from /etc/ppp/options) 
hide-password   # (from /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net)ipparam
highstream.net  # (from /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net) 
noipdefault # (from
/etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net)defaultroute# (from
/etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net)proxyarp# (from
/etc/ppp/options) 
usepeerdns  # (from /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net)noipx
  # (from /etc/ppp/options) 
deblnx:~# 
 
using pon without the dryrun gets the modem to dial (well all these
programs do that) but nothing else happens 
there isn't even any screen output with 'pon highstream.net 
I do appreciate the responses. I will keep working on it. Thanks JY 


Subject: Re: pppd daemon dies
To: J Y [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:

 I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the
 'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I copied
 the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work either.



  Do you still get auth when you issue

pon highstream.net dryrun

If so, perhaps other files under /etc/ppp have auth commented in?

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Re: pppd daemon dies

2003-09-27 Thread cr
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:52, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
 Hi!

 On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
  Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to
  authenticate itself Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: but I couldn't
  find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. Sep 26
  05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: (None of the available passwords would let it
  use an IP address.)
 
  I  went to kde/kppp site and read there that commenting out the
  'auth' line in /etc/ppp/otions could be a fix but it wasn't. So I copied
  the /etc/ppp/options file from my SuSE distro but that didn't work
  either.

 Add following line to /etc/ppp/options:

 noauth

 So long
 Thomas

Or alternatively, after bringing up Kppp, go

Setup -  [select account] - Edit - Customise pppd - [type in ] noauth  - 
Add

I've just had to do that, half an hour ago, and it works.

(I just did a complete reinstall of Woody, for various reasons).

Curiously though, /etc/ppp/options still has  'auth'  in it,   while 
/etc/ppp/peers/provider   has  'noauth' (and already did, I think, even when 
I was having that 'drop-out' problem mentioned above).   I don't know how the 
two inter-relate, but evidently what I did in Kppp has changed something else 
somewhere.I was intending to ask for some clarification on this list.

Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to ppp?   
I can think of a couple of ways that might work but I might as well do it the 
'proper' way.   I don't need high security (being the only user) but I'm sure 
I shouldn't be posting as root;)

cr


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