Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 02:58 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?
 
 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any ideas?

Can you boot into a small Linux on a Live CD, e.g. can you boot into
http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=start ?
Did you test Linux that aren't Debian based? E.g. Suse and/or Fedora?

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-10 Thread Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen
Thanks for all the help!  I finally was able to do an installation,
and have now lubuntu 12.10 beta running-

It seems, it is not using th e nonfree nvidia drivers, I do have installed
libvdpau1
ubuntu-drivers-common
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
libgl1-mesa-glx
libgl1-mesa.dri

(all installed by default by the installer)

The problem I mentiones in the original post, that the livecd with
lubuntu went into a black screen, is strange, but I found it could be
solved by using the F3 key.

Kjetil



On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 02:58 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?

 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any 
 ideas?

 Can you boot into a small Linux on a Live CD, e.g. can you boot into
 http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=start ?
 Did you test Linux that aren't Debian based? E.g. Suse and/or Fedora?

 Regards,
 Ralf


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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Jude DaShiell
Have you tried Slackware 13.37 yet?  That might work, I have an ancient 
Dell laptop and Slackware had no problems installing and running on that 
laptop.  It hasn't got an especially large footprint either.

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400
Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen kjetil1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?
 
 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)
 Any ideas?
 

The very latest Knoppix? That's likely to get new drivers before most
installable distributions.

Knoppix isn't suitable for permanent installation, as it isn't
maintained, but it's mostly based on Debian sid and drivers should be
transferrable. At the very least, the problem area should be identified.

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:

 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?

Contact a Ubuntu mailing list/forum?
 
 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any ideas?

This is about as vague as it gets. Some problem in some program on an
unspecified image. Tiredness really has set in. :)

If for some reason you insist on installing Wheezy rather than Squeeze,
an alpha ISO should be less troublesome:

   http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/


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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread lee
Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen kjetil1...@gmail.com writes:

 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?

 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any ideas?

You need to provide more information, like which installer exactly you
are using and if you have tried the non-graphical installation and what
error messages you get.


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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:

 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is a
 lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?

Yes, try with the text expert installer, disable KMS and jump to a debug 
console just in the event there's something logged there.
 
 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.

(...)

Precision does matter. What was the exact error you got?

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Jude DaShiell
At least on debian installers it should always be possible after 
language and keyboard selections have been done to drop to the main menu 
so that an installer can first arrange for debug logs to be saved and 
then do a disk integrity check before proceeding with the installation.  
If the disk is no good to start with going any further is just a waste 
of time.  If the integrity is good, and an installer runs into problems 
after that, they'll be recorded in those debug logs.  If the debug logs 
were saved to a floppy, it ought to be possible to replay them later and 
in that event, those are something debian-installer wants you to upload 
into web space and send them the url to the debug logs.  That way they 
can do something about errors in programs on the install media.

On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Brian wrote:

 On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 
  I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
  install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
  different sort.
  Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
  symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
  a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
  ideas?
 
 Contact a Ubuntu mailing list/forum?
  
  I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
  that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
  returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
  Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
  freezes,
  (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any 
  ideas?
 
 This is about as vague as it gets. Some problem in some program on an
 unspecified image. Tiredness really has set in. :)
 
 If for some reason you insist on installing Wheezy rather than Squeeze,
 an alpha ISO should be less troublesome:
 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/
 
 
 

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Greg Madden


On Sunday 09 September 2012 6:47:32 am Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
  I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
  install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
  different sort.
  Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
  symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is a
  lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
  ideas?

 Yes, try with the text expert installer, disable KMS and jump to a debug
 console just in the event there's something logged there.

afaikt this laptop has the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M card which needs the lastest 
NVIDIA 295.59 Linux update, from Nvidia. Not sure which Debian version, if any, 
has updated non-free to include this.  Text mode expert install may help.

snip

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Doug

On 09/09/2012 02:58 AM, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:

I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
different sort.
Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
ideas?

I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
freezes,
(happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any ideas?

Kjetil


I think I remember someone else having trouble with an HP, and it
turned out that HP has filled up all 4 primary partitions with
stuff for recovery, etc., so there is no place to put another OS.
You'll have to repartition the drive, such that you have a partition
into which you can put secondary partitions for /root and /home,
at the least. Or you could scrub Windows altogether, and
clean the drive out, but that's a bit drastic, unless you know
you'll never need Windows for anything.

--doug

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