Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:14:12AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 Wrong again (you're trying too hard).
 
 header from track on CDDA = RIFF���WAVEfmt

What ripper did you use to extract the track?

Since a raw redbook audio encoded track is not very useful it's highly likely
that your ripper has packed the result into a WAV.


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 16:17 +, Camaleón wrote:
 I wish the optical media and their associate formats starts disappearing 
 in a near future, they're nothing but headaches for users.

Full ACK! Unfortunately I suspect that the successor will have also
drawbacks. For audio I used DAT a long time. For data it's named
different, but it's the same hardware. I used data tapes instead of
audio tapes, since the GEMA mafia makes empty audio tapes 6* more
expensive in Germany. The issue with DAT is, that the consumer drives
don't last very long. Some days ago I visited a friend and noticed that
he still has got a shelf with Syquest Cartridges. Btw. I dropped CDRAM a
long time ago, but for unimportant data CD and DVD are still my
favorites compared to e.g. an USB-stick. My PC hasn't got a floppy disk
drive anymore. Today we need those optical media :(.


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
K3b is a must-have, the best burning software and I'm not a KDE user.


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/05/12 14:11, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 12/05/12 18:07, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:14:12AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 
 header from track on CDDA = RIFF���WAVEfmt
 
 What ripper did you use to extract the track?
 

cat

 it's highly likely that your ripper has packed the result into a
 WAV.

Demonstrably, no.
It's an identical copy of the wav file that was used by wodim to create
the track in the first place.

Create audio cd.
1. Convert mp3 files to wav files.
scott@work:~/cdda$ for i in *.mp3; do mpg123 -w `basename $i .mp3`.wav
$i; done
High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layers 1, 2 and 3
version 1.12.1; written and copyright by Michael Hipp and others
free software (LGPL/GPL) without any warranty but with best wishes

Playing MPEG stream 1 of 1: Ministry_-_01_-_Thieves.mp3 ...
Title:   Thieves Artist: Ministry
Comment:
Album:   The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
Year:1989Genre:  Unknown
MPEG 1.0 layer III, VBR, 44100 Hz stereo

[5:02] Decoding of Ministry_-_01_-_Thieves.mp3 finished.
High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layers 1, 2 and 3
version 1.12.1; written and copyright by Michael Hipp and others
free software (LGPL/GPL) without any warranty but with best wishes

Playing MPEG stream 1 of 1: Ministry_-_02_-_Burning_Inside.mp3 ...
Title:   Burning Inside  Artist: Ministry
Comment:
Album:   The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
Year:1989Genre:  Unknown
MPEG 1.0 layer III, VBR, 44100 Hz stereo

[5:20] Decoding of Ministry_-_02_-_Burning_Inside.mp3 finished.
High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layers 1, 2 and 3
version 1.12.1; written and copyright by Michael Hipp and others
free software (LGPL/GPL) without any warranty but with best wishes

Playing MPEG stream 1 of 1: Ministry_-_03_-_Never_Believe.mp3 ...
Title:   Never Believe   Artist: Ministry
Comment:
Album:   The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
Year:1989Genre:  Unknown
MPEG 1.0 layer III, VBR, 44100 Hz stereo

[4:59] Decoding of Ministry_-_03_-_Never_Believe.mp3 finished.

scott@work:~/cdda$ ls -lh
total 181M
-r 1 scott scott 7.9M May 13 12:44 Ministry_-_01_-_Thieves.mp3
-rw-r--r-- 1 scott scott  51M May 13 13:40 Ministry_-_01_-_Thieves.wav
-r 1 scott scott 8.5M May 13 12:51
Ministry_-_02_-_Burning_Inside.mp3
-rw-r--r-- 1 scott scott  54M May 13 13:40
Ministry_-_02_-_Burning_Inside.wav
-r 1 scott scott 8.7M May 13 12:52 Ministry_-_03_-_Never_Believe.mp3
-rw-r--r-- 1 scott scott  51M May 13 13:40 Ministry_-_03_-_Never_Believe.wav
scott@work:~/cdda$ file Ministry - 01 - Thieves.mp3
Ministry - 01 - Thieves.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 2.3.0,
contains: MPEG ADTS, layer III, v1, 128 kbps, 44.1 kHz, Stereo
scott@work:~/cdda$ file Ministry_-_01_-_Thieves.wav
Ministry_-_01_-_Thieves.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio,
Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz


2. Normalize sound levels
scott@work:~/cdda$ normalize-audio -b *.wav
Computing levels...
 Ministry_-_03_-_N 100% done, ETA 00:00:00 (batch 100% done, ETA 00:00:00)
Applying adjustment of 2.82dB...
 Ministry_-_03_-_N 100% done, ETA 00:00:00 (batch 100% done, ETA 00:00:00)


3. Remove mp3 files
scott@work:~/cdda$ rm *.mp3


4. Create audio CD
scott@work:~/cdda$ wodim dev=/dev/scd0 -v -audio *.wav
wodim: No write mode specified.
wodim: Assuming -tao mode.
wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults.
TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA
wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.
scsidev: '/dev/scd0'
devname: '/dev/scd0'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Wodim version: 1.1.11
SCSI buffer size: 64512
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 5
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: 'PIONEER '
Identification : 'DVD-RW  DVR-217 '
Revision   : '1.05'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: 0x0009 (CD-R)
Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL)
Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R)
Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW)
Profile: 0x0016 (DVD-R/DL layer jump recording)
Profile: 0x0015 (DVD-R/DL sequential recording)
Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording)
Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite)
Profile: 0x0012 (DVD-RAM)
Profile: 0x0002 (Removable disk)
Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording)
Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM)
Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW)
Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R) (current)
Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM)
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
Drive buf size : 1136640 = 1110 KB
Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if device
communication breaks or freezes immediately after that.
FIFO size  : 12582912 = 12288 KB
Track 01: audio   50 MB (05:02.86) no 

Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 To me an audio CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by CD players
 (music only). WAV files.

Audio CDs do not use WAV format, they use an encoding specified in the red
book standard.


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/05/12 18:06, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 To me an audio CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by CD players
 (music only). WAV files.
 
 Audio CDs do not use WAV format, they use an encoding specified in the red
 book standard.
 
 


Oh right - 2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz, as
per the Red Book standard.

My mistake, I was confusing it with WAV, LPCM-encoded, containing two
channels of 44,100 samples per second, 16 bits per sample






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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:29:29PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 Oh right - 2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz, as
 per the Red Book standard.
 
 My mistake, I was confusing it with WAV, LPCM-encoded, containing two
 channels of 44,100 samples per second, 16 bits per sample

Not all WAVs have the same sampling rate, nor are they all stereo. You can
learn more about the format at wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV#Audio_CDs


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/05/12 18:40, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:29:29PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 Oh right - 2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz, as
 per the Red Book standard.

 My mistake, I was confusing it with WAV, LPCM-encoded, containing two
 channels of 44,100 samples per second, 16 bits per sample
 
 Not all WAVs have the same sampling rate, nor are they all stereo. 

apropos of what?

Red Book audio format *is* a WAV format - as described above.


Go back, re-read the articles you quote in full, find something else to
argue the toss on. And enjoy your Friday night.


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:49:22PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 Red Book audio format *is* a WAV format - as described above.

It is not. For a start the WAV header is omitted entirely. If you take the
literal ones and zeroes of red book audio they cannot be decoded as WAV.

 Go back, re-read the articles you quote in full, find something else to
 argue the toss on. And enjoy your Friday night.

You said CDs use WAVs. They don't. I'm sorry your ego is bruised. Sadly the
night is a long way off for me.


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 09:06 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
  To me an audio CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by CD players
  (music only). WAV files.
 
 Audio CDs do not use WAV format, they use an encoding specified in the red
 book standard.

And there were good tools or at least one tool to do red book editing
with GTK2, dunno if they exist today, since it at least WAS borked, when
GNOME 2 was dropped.


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 18:49 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 11/05/12 18:40, Jon Dowland wrote:
  On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:29:29PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
  Oh right - 2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz, as
  per the Red Book standard.
 
  My mistake, I was confusing it with WAV, LPCM-encoded, containing two
  channels of 44,100 samples per second, 16 bits per sample
  
  Not all WAVs have the same sampling rate, nor are they all stereo. 
 
 apropos of what?
 
 Red Book audio format *is* a WAV format - as described above.
 
 
 Go back, re-read the articles you quote in full, find something else to
 argue the toss on. And enjoy your Friday night.

An audio CD can represent frequencies up to 22.05 kHz, the Nyquist
frequency of the 44.1 kHz sample rate. The audio bit rate is 1,411.2
kbit/s (as 2 channels × 44,100 samples per second per channel × 16 bits
per sample = 1,411,200 bit/s = 1,411.2 kbit/s). As each sample is a
signed 16-bit two's complement integer, sample values range from −32768
to +32767. Although rarely used, the specification allows for discs to
be mastered with a form of emphasis. -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28CD_standard%29

I can listen to CD, but it's very hard for me. I'm an old school audio
engineer.

  - Ralf


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 11:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 18:49 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
  On 11/05/12 18:40, Jon Dowland wrote:
   On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:29:29PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
   Oh right - 2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz, as
   per the Red Book standard.
  
   My mistake, I was confusing it with WAV, LPCM-encoded, containing two
   channels of 44,100 samples per second, 16 bits per sample
   
   Not all WAVs have the same sampling rate, nor are they all stereo. 
  
  apropos of what?
  
  Red Book audio format *is* a WAV format - as described above.
  
  
  Go back, re-read the articles you quote in full, find something else to
  argue the toss on. And enjoy your Friday night.
 
 An audio CD can represent frequencies up to 22.05 kHz, the Nyquist
 frequency of the 44.1 kHz sample rate. The audio bit rate is 1,411.2
 kbit/s (as 2 channels × 44,100 samples per second per channel × 16 bits
 per sample = 1,411,200 bit/s = 1,411.2 kbit/s). As each sample is a
 signed 16-bit two's complement integer, sample values range from −32768
 to +32767. Although rarely used, the specification allows for discs to
 be mastered with a form of emphasis. -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28CD_standard%29
 
 I can listen to CD, but it's very hard for me. I'm an old school audio
 engineer.
 
   - Ralf

PS:

WAV MICROSOFT 44.1 16bit stereo might be named PCM 44.1 16bit stereo
or whatever.

Audio CDs

Audio CDs do not use WAV as their sound format, using instead Red Book
audio. The commonality is that both audio CDs and WAV files have the
audio data encoded in PCM. WAV is a data file format for a computer to
use that cannot be understood by CD players directly. To record WAV
files to an Audio CD the file headers must be stripped and the remaining
PCM data written directly to the disc as individual tracks with
zero-padding added to match the CD's sector size. In order for a WAV
file to be able to be burned to a CD with most burners it should be in
the 44100 Hz, 16-bit stereo format. -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV#Audio_CDs

WAV might be a Trademark of Microsoft, anyway, you both are right in one
way or another. A CD has got cue points and perhaps some additional
information and different headers, for me it's the same.

Don't use CDs and MP3s as long as you can hear very good.


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[scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com: Re: putting audio files onto a DVD]

2012-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
- Forwarded message from Scott Ferguson 
scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com -

Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:49:22 +1000
From: Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

On 11/05/12 18:40, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:29:29PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 Oh right - 2-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz, as
 per the Red Book standard.

 My mistake, I was confusing it with WAV, LPCM-encoded, containing two
 channels of 44,100 samples per second, 16 bits per sample
 
 Not all WAVs have the same sampling rate, nor are they all stereo. 

apropos of what?

Red Book audio format *is* a WAV format - as described above.


Go back, re-read the articles you quote in full, find something else to
argue the toss on. And enjoy your Friday night.


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Re: [scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com: Re: putting audio files onto a DVD]

2012-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 01:17:57AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 - Forwarded message from Scott Ferguson 
 scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com -

[snip]

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alternatives to CDs and MP3s (was Re: putting audio files onto a DVD)

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:46:09AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Don't use CDs and MP3s as long as you can hear very good.

What do you recommend instead: 24bit and upwards digital files, or are you an
analog loyalist?


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 10 May 2012 19:36:46 -0400, Whit Hansell wrote:

 Scott, Indulekha, Sharon and Camaleon,
 
 Thanks so much for your replies.  I had previously looked and looked
 again at some of the recommendations you have given me and looked at the
 new ones too.  Am just going to give it up for right now as it was
 really just something I was going to try to do but not realizing that
 DVD's are that much different from CD's. in their uses etc.  It really
 just isn't that big a deal.  I was trying to do something to give to a
 friend but since it's so much a struggle to do and may not work anyway,
 I will probably just use Audacity to split the file and use two CD's if
 I do it at all.

I wish the optical media and their associate formats starts disappearing 
in a near future, they're nothing but headaches for users.

 I really do appreciate all of your replies.  You all have been so
 helpful in the past and if there is anything I can help with I try and
 will  try to do so more when I run into a situation that I might
 actually have some knowledge about.  You are all great and again, thanks
 so much for your help.

You're welcome.

I was not aware about the availability/status of DVD-A authoring tools in 
linux so I've also learnt something from your question :-)

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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/05/12 18:50, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:49:22PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 Red Book audio format *is* a WAV format - as described above.
 
 It is not. For a start the WAV header is omitted entirely.


Wrong again (you're trying too hard).

header from track on CDDA = RIFF���WAVEfmt

snipped



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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 11:04 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 PS. It's also possible to add music tracks to a video DVD but I don't
 know how to do it.

*chuckle*

It's said DVDs are for silent films only ;). So they are for sound films
too?

To be serious: Some (perhaps all) consumer DVD players can update their
software. Get an ISO from the homepage of it's vendor, burn it, put it
into the DVD player, that's it, perhaps you need to push a combination
of some buttons. It's possible for my old second hand thingy, but even
the upgrades are that old, that this thingy can't do what every elCheapo
DVD player today is able to do.


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-10 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 09 May 2012 20:11:50 -0400, Whit Hansell wrote:

 Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which
 will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file
 which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD
 but haven't been able to find a way to do it.  The files is an .mp3 and
 I need it to play on a dvd player as an audio file.  i can copy it as a
 data file but that will only play on a computer.

So you want to make a DVD-Audio?

 Anyone know of a program which will do audio files onto DVD's?

Google suggests dvd-author but I know nothing about this application :-?

http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml

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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-10 Thread Whit Hansell

Scott, Indulekha, Sharon and Camaleon,

Thanks so much for your replies.  I had previously looked and looked 
again at some of the recommendations you have given me and looked at the 
new ones too.  Am just going to give it up for right now as it was 
really just something I was going to try to do but not realizing that 
DVD's are that much different from CD's. in their uses etc.  It really 
just isn't that big a deal.  I was trying to do something to give to a 
friend but since it's so much a struggle to do and may not work anyway, 
I will probably just use Audacity to split the file and use two CD's if 
I do it at all.


I really do appreciate all of your replies.  You all have been so 
helpful in the past and if there is anything I can help with I try and 
will  try to do so more when I run into a situation that I might 
actually have some knowledge about.  You are all great and again, thanks 
so much for your help.


Best regards and Cheers.
Whit

On 05/10/2012 11:37 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 09 May 2012 20:11:50 -0400, Whit Hansell wrote:


Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which
will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file
which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD
but haven't been able to find a way to do it.  The files is an .mp3 and
I need it to play on a dvd player as an audio file.  i can copy it as a
data file but that will only play on a computer.

So you want to make a DVD-Audio?


Anyone know of a program which will do audio files onto DVD's?

Google suggests dvd-author but I know nothing about this application :-?

http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml

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putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Whit Hansell
Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which 
will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file 
which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD 
but haven't been able to find a way to do it.  The files is an .mp3 and 
I need it to play on a dvd player as an audio file.  i can copy it as a 
data file but that will only play on a computer.


Anyone know of a program which will do audio files onto DVD's?

TIA
Whit


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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/05/12 10:11, Whit Hansell wrote:
 Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which
 will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file
 which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD
 but haven't been able to find a way to do it.  The files is an .mp3 and
 I need it to play on a dvd player as an audio file.  i can copy it as a
 data file but that will only play on a computer.
 
 Anyone know of a program which will do audio files onto DVD's?
 
 TIA
 Whit
 
 

I'm not sure I understand what you want

To me an audio CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by CD players
(music only). WAV files. An iso of an audio CD is not possible.

A video CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by DVD players. VOB
files. An iso of a video CD/DVD is possible.

A data CD/DVD is a format readable by data CD/DVD players. Any file
type. An  iso is possible.


You can use K3B (or the GNOME equivalent) to burn an audio DVD - it
will convert the mp3 to a wav and burn it to DVD in a single session.
But you can't put anything else on that DVD - and there's no guarantee
it'll play in a DVD player (some don't like burnt music CD/DVDs). Many
modern DVD players will play mp3 files on a data DVD/CD though (don't
need the audio CD format).

PS. It's also possible to add music tracks to a video DVD but I don't
know how to do it.



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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 10/05/12 10:11, Whit Hansell wrote:
  Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which
  will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file
  which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD
  but haven't been able to find a way to do it.  The files is an .mp3 and
  I need it to play on a dvd player as an audio file.  i can copy it as a
  data file but that will only play on a computer.
  
  Anyone know of a program which will do audio files onto DVD's?
  
  TIA
  Whit
  
  
 
 I'm not sure I understand what you want
 
 To me an audio CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by CD players
 (music only). WAV files. An iso of an audio CD is not possible.
 
 A video CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by DVD players. VOB
 files. An iso of a video CD/DVD is possible.
 
 A data CD/DVD is a format readable by data CD/DVD players. Any file
 type. An  iso is possible.
 
 
 You can use K3B (or the GNOME equivalent) to burn an audio DVD - it
 will convert the mp3 to a wav and burn it to DVD in a single session.
 But you can't put anything else on that DVD - and there's no guarantee
 it'll play in a DVD player (some don't like burnt music CD/DVDs). Many
 modern DVD players will play mp3 files on a data DVD/CD though (don't
 need the audio CD format).
 
 PS. It's also possible to add music tracks to a video DVD but I don't
 know how to do it.
 

Not quite -- what the OP seeks is a way to write dvda (dvd audio) 
formatted dvds. I'm really not sure how to do that, as someone who 
rarely bothers with optical discs, but if no better aswer turns up 
here the term is dvd-aduio or dvda.
I suspect the dvdauthor package might offer this, but am not sure...
Wodim's man page says nothig about it here, using apt-cache search and 
aptitude search for dvda, dvd-audio, etc reveals nothing.

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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:26:34PM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
  On 10/05/12 10:11, Whit Hansell wrote:
   Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which
   will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file
   which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD
   but haven't been able to find a way to do it.  The files is an .mp3 and
   I need it to play on a dvd player as an audio file.  i can copy it as a
   data file but that will only play on a computer.
   
   Anyone know of a program which will do audio files onto DVD's?
   
   TIA
   Whit
   
   
  
  I'm not sure I understand what you want
  
  To me an audio CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by CD players
  (music only). WAV files. An iso of an audio CD is not possible.
  
  A video CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by DVD players. VOB
  files. An iso of a video CD/DVD is possible.
  
  A data CD/DVD is a format readable by data CD/DVD players. Any file
  type. An  iso is possible.
  
  
  You can use K3B (or the GNOME equivalent) to burn an audio DVD - it
  will convert the mp3 to a wav and burn it to DVD in a single session.
  But you can't put anything else on that DVD - and there's no guarantee
  it'll play in a DVD player (some don't like burnt music CD/DVDs). Many
  modern DVD players will play mp3 files on a data DVD/CD though (don't
  need the audio CD format).
  
  PS. It's also possible to add music tracks to a video DVD but I don't
  know how to do it.
  
 
 Not quite -- what the OP seeks is a way to write dvda (dvd audio) 
 formatted dvds. I'm really not sure how to do that, as someone who 
 rarely bothers with optical discs, but if no better aswer turns up 
 here the term is dvd-aduio or dvda.
 I suspect the dvdauthor package might offer this, but am not sure...
 Wodim's man page says nothig about it here, using apt-cache search and 
 aptitude search for dvda, dvd-audio, etc reveals nothing.
 
 
Sorry, forgot to mention that I've seen it said Brassero can do this 
in Ubuntu, so maybe it can for us as well.

HTH!
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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/05/12 11:26, Indulekha wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 10/05/12 10:11, Whit Hansell wrote:
 Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which
 will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file

snipped


 
 Not quite


You are mistaken.

  -- what the OP seeks is a way to write dvda (dvd audio) 
 formatted dvds. I'm really not sure how to do that, as someone who 
 rarely bothers with optical discs, but if no better aswer turns up 
 here the term is dvd-aduio or dvda.

DVDA is an old(-ish) and (very) poorly supported audio format. Very few
players support it.

Not the same format as a standard, and well supported, CD audio (CDDA)
format.

 I suspect the dvdauthor package might offer this, but am not sure...

It doesn't.
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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:35:00AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 10/05/12 11:26, Indulekha wrote:
  On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 
 snipped
 
 
  
  Not quite
 
 
 You are mistaken.


H...

   -- what the OP seeks is a way to write dvda (dvd audio) 
  formatted dvds. I'm really not sure how to do that, as someone who 
  rarely bothers with optical discs, but if no better aswer turns up 
  here the term is dvd-aduio or dvda.
 
 DVDA is an old(-ish) and (very) poorly supported audio format. Very few
 players support it.

I only know all three of my cheap dvd players do support it

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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/05/12 11:40, Indulekha wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:35:00AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 10/05/12 11:26, Indulekha wrote:
 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:


snipped


 DVDA is an old(-ish) and (very) poorly supported audio format. Very few
 players support it.
 
 I only know all three of my cheap dvd players do support it
 
Just because they're cheap doesn't mean they're rubbish ;-)

DVDA is part of the DVD Book formats and as such 'should' be supported
by all 'good' DVD players.
Often players will support the competing SACD instead - or not support
DVDA at all. I've no idea whether this is a zonal Seacam/PAL market thing.
DVDA is much better than CDDA - SACD (Sony/Phillips), has few advantages.

Many (standalone) DVD players will also play several audio file formats
(eg. mp3, and ogg) and video formats (eg. avi, mpeg). Sadly many don't.
Others won't support burnt DVDs (only pressed).


Having said that... I'm no longer sure what the answer to the OP's
question is - I'm guessing it depends on the player in question.

If the OP's player supports DVDA then AFAIK the only Linux tool is:-
http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml

From fuzzy memory it's fussy about the version of cdrecord used (from
debian-multimedia?).



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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/05/12 11:04, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 10/05/12 10:11, Whit Hansell wrote:
 Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which
 will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file
 which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD
 but haven't been able to find a way to do it.  The files is an .mp3 and
 I need it to play on a dvd player as an audio file.  i can copy it as a
 data file but that will only play on a computer.

 Anyone know of a program which will do audio files onto DVD's?

 TIA
 Whit


 
 I'm not sure I understand what you want
 
 To me an audio CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by CD players
 (music only). WAV files. An iso of an audio CD is not possible.

snipped

 
 
 You can use K3B snipped

Apologies for the bum steer - ignore that Whit. If it's possible to put
a CDDA format onto a DVD I've forgotten how to do it (I'm unable to
reproduce it now).


I'd suggest you see whether your player supports mp3 files - some do.
If not then try DVD-A as Indulekha suggested - if supported by your player:-
http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml


If DVD-A is not supported your player might support SACD. If so, perhaps
someone on the list can advise you on creating SACD DVDs using Debian as
I don't know of any programs for doing that (I've only ripped SACD DVDs,
not written).

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Re: putting audio files onto a DVD

2012-05-09 Thread Sharon Kimble
On 10/05/2012, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10/05/12 11:04, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 10/05/12 10:11, Whit Hansell wrote:
 Sorry for the interruption but have tried to find a linux program which
 will allow me to put andio files onto DVD's.  I have one particular file
 which is just too large to fit on a CD and so wanted to put it on a DVD
 but haven't been able to find a way to do it.  The files is an .mp3 and
 I need it to play on a dvd player as an audio file.  i can copy it as a
 data file but that will only play on a computer.

 Anyone know of a program which will do audio files onto DVD's?

 TIA
 Whit



 I'm not sure I understand what you want

 To me an audio CD/DVD is a format of CD/DVD readable by CD players
 (music only). WAV files. An iso of an audio CD is not possible.

 snipped



 You can use K3B snipped

 Apologies for the bum steer - ignore that Whit. If it's possible to put
 a CDDA format onto a DVD I've forgotten how to do it (I'm unable to
 reproduce it now).


 I'd suggest you see whether your player supports mp3 files - some do.
 If not then try DVD-A as Indulekha suggested - if supported by your
 player:-
 http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml


 If DVD-A is not supported your player might support SACD. If so, perhaps
 someone on the list can advise you on creating SACD DVDs using Debian as
 I don't know of any programs for doing that (I've only ripped SACD DVDs,
 not written).

 Kind regards

Have you looked at 'datapacker' which is in squeeze's repos, and its
homepage is at https://github.com/jgoerzen/datapacker/wiki . I'm
currently evaluating it for my backups of my mp3s.

Hope this helps
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