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Dan Ritter wrote: The web browser technology called WebRTC does that quite well, but for security reasons -- nobody wants a self-perpetuating worm -- you need an intermediary device to introduce the two participants but not to actually transfer the file. And so there is snapdrop.net, which you can choose to trust or you can run your own copy -- it's GPL3. Works between any two devices that run modern web browsers, including iPhones, Androids, Linux, Windows, Macs... Cool, I played with this today. So it seems like the website is called 'pairdrop.net' that works by default with the android app. Bit of a shame that it requires an external introducer site. I read a bunch of sites, nothing seems to explicitly say that the file transfer is direct between one and the other and not through some sort of "bent pipe". I'll tcpdump it at some point to convince myself. I did not set up my own server (yet), though I read through the instructions. Seems to be nodejs based and looks like a manual setup. I guess nobody has built a debian package yet... There are bluetooth solutions between Linux and Android and Windows, but Apple does not allow bluetooth file transfer from or to IOS with any operating systems they don't control. Did some research how to do this over bluetooth, apparently most android phones, certainly newer ones, you can pair the two phones and then use the share feature of one phone and choose bluetooth and share it. Built into the OS. Apparently works between phones and Windows. No internet connection required, perfect. Doesn't work between ios as you say. Learn something new every day! Thanks for that! Michael Grant
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On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 2:24 AM gene heskett wrote: > Well, since I'm alone, my wife passed 3.5 years back, and was not > computer literate, its my show. And sshfs Just Works. I use this machine > as the src for my output for some 3d printers, although the 4 linuxcnc > machines are largely standalone in that the gcode I run on them was all > written by me on that machine.. I often have more than one login session > to a given machine because that machine may also be its own buildbot. > Every machine has access to the world, but its all hidden behind a > dd-wrt running router doing the NAT. I don't have to fight with > samba/cifs and its daily updates to keep it working, permissions are > 100% linux, nor do I fool with nfs and its weekly updates that always > break it. > > But age is playing a role too, I have short term memory problems. > Perhaps because of my age, I'll be 90 in October if I don't fall over first. > > The only dis to ssh and friends has been the local key files and keeping > them up to date. That's very minor, its probably been a year since a new > install on one of my pi clones had me hunting down an aging key file. > Nothing like this broken bookworm install, its far more annoyance than > any of the other problems. I'll miss morning roll call, and disappear > soon enough and then it will be a bit more peaceful here. > > In the meantime, everybody take care and stay well. You are my > connection to the rest of the world. Gene, you are an inspiration to me. I hope that I am half as lucid as you when I am 90. But when you miss morning roll call how will we know?
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On 6/1/24 06:07, Michael Grant wrote: I use sshfs, works great to let me drop files on my server from my desktop. But I wouldn't call that "file sharing". I probably would call that a "network disk" or "remote mount". There's probably some formal definition out there, but when I think of file sharing, I think of someone proffering up a single file (or folder) and sharing it point-to-point with one or some small group of people. I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a boat with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially easy way to send a file from one device to the other without say first uploading it to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp). sshfs isn't going to let you share files between say 2 phones, at least, not very easily if at all. By recommendation further up in this thread, I tried Google's Quick Share between my wife's phone and my phone. Followed all the instructions, did not work. Followed all the troubleshooting instructions. Nope, my device doesn't appear on her phone when I share, and neither the other way around. Searched the web, found a ton of people with same issue. It's DoA I'm afraid. Between family members, we have in the past shared files using a synology box and their Drive app. It works just like Dropbox except file is on your own infra. It's not open source though and I don't know how tied it actually is to Synology's infra. One certainly needs to be on the net to use it. To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between 2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know some well know good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the platforms that I could tell people to install to send them a file without using the internet. I can't really see any technical reason such an thing couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and maybe it does exist, I've just never run across such a thing. The key word here is EASY. I can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour just to transfer them a file. Michael Grant The keyword with a "phone" as you refer to that handheld computer, is locked in service. Just one of the reasons I only have an expired wallmart flip phone that hasn't been renewed in 4 or 5 years. If I'm going on a long trip where a vehicle problem might need a fone to yell for help, I'll go see what wally has today. Until then its a nuisance, with every scammer on the planet calling you up at dinner time or in the middle of taking care of your horizontal homework. Amazons BIG red button has blocked 255 such scammers so far. . Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
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On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 10:06:43 + "Michael Grant" wrote: > > To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file > between 2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say > getting one to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the > file between local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know > some well know good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the > platforms that I could tell people to install to send them a file > without using the internet. I can't really see any technical reason > such an thing couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and > maybe it does exist, I've just never run across such a thing. The > key word here is EASY. I can't be hacking someone's phone for an > hour just to transfer them a file. > > Michael Grant > a. I know nothing about iOS b. I don't know if this will help I have an Android phone. If I plug its micro USB charge/data connection into my desktop's USB port, two entries appear on 'Device' in Thunar. Pictures (only) can be transferred. If I pull down the Android status menu and select the USB entry, then tap for more options, then select file transfer. one of the Device entries disappears and the other shows various directories. Files of other kinds can be transferred to and from my workstation's directories by copy and paste, and presumably by drag and drop. No additional software is required on the phone. Two Android devices plugged into something portable, such as a netbook or Raspberry Pi could presumably transfer files fairly easily. I've never needed to do it, so I haven't actually tried it between mobiles, but I use one phone this way to transfer files to and from my network, which is quicker than emailing them. I don't know what the earliest version of Android with this ability is. Update: Google says Android 9. There is a Mac app to do it, Windows and Linux machines including Chromebook do it natively. Maybe more ideas here: https://www.grover.com/blog/en/7-ways-android-data-transfer https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iph3ea029318/17.0/ios/17.0 -- Joe
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Michael Grant wrote: ... > I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a > boat with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially > easy way to send a file from one device to the other without say first > uploading it to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp). USB stick or in the elder days i could wire up a RS232 cable and use that via serial ports. ... > To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between > 2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one > to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between > local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know some well know > good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the platforms that I > could tell people to install to send them a file without using the > internet. I can't really see any technical reason such an thing > couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and maybe it does exist, > I've just never run across such a thing. The key word here is EASY. I > can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour just to transfer them a > file. if i'm taking that long to do something, i'll just find an easier method. for me sending an e-mail with the file attached might also do it. songbird
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Michael Grant wrote: > I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a boat > with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially easy way > to send a file from one device to the other without say first uploading it > to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp). ... > To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between 2 > devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one to run > an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between local ip addrs > (e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know some well know good, not-evil, open > source app that runs on all the platforms that I could tell people to > install to send them a file without using the internet. I can't really see > any technical reason such an thing couldn't work, say over bluetooth or > local IPs and maybe it does exist, I've just never run across such a thing. > The key word here is EASY. I can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour > just to transfer them a file. The web browser technology called WebRTC does that quite well, but for security reasons -- nobody wants a self-perpetuating worm -- you need an intermediary device to introduce the two participants but not to actually transfer the file. And so there is snapdrop.net, which you can choose to trust or you can run your own copy -- it's GPL3. Works between any two devices that run modern web browsers, including iPhones, Androids, Linux, Windows, Macs... There are bluetooth solutions between Linux and Android and Windows, but Apple does not allow bluetooth file transfer from or to IOS with any operating systems they don't control. -dsr-
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I use sshfs, works great to let me drop files on my server from my desktop. But I wouldn't call that "file sharing". I probably would call that a "network disk" or "remote mount". There's probably some formal definition out there, but when I think of file sharing, I think of someone proffering up a single file (or folder) and sharing it point-to-point with one or some small group of people. I have long been plagued by the problem if sitting in a room or on a boat with someone, 2 devices right next to one another, and no trivially easy way to send a file from one device to the other without say first uploading it to some mutual third party (e.g. whatsapp). sshfs isn't going to let you share files between say 2 phones, at least, not very easily if at all. By recommendation further up in this thread, I tried Google's Quick Share between my wife's phone and my phone. Followed all the instructions, did not work. Followed all the troubleshooting instructions. Nope, my device doesn't appear on her phone when I share, and neither the other way around. Searched the web, found a ton of people with same issue. It's DoA I'm afraid. Between family members, we have in the past shared files using a synology box and their Drive app. It works just like Dropbox except file is on your own infra. It's not open source though and I don't know how tied it actually is to Synology's infra. One certainly needs to be on the net to use it. To this day, I have yet ever to see an easy way to share a file between 2 devices without full internet connectivity, except by say getting one to run an ftp or ssh server and ftp or ssh'ing over the file between local ip addrs (e.g. 192.168.x.y). I'd love to know some well know good, not-evil, open source app that runs on all the platforms that I could tell people to install to send them a file without using the internet. I can't really see any technical reason such an thing couldn't work, say over bluetooth or local IPs and maybe it does exist, I've just never run across such a thing. The key word here is EASY. I can't be hacking someone's phone for an hour just to transfer them a file. Michael Grant
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On 5/31/24 22:37, David Wright wrote: On Fri 31 May 2024 at 17:30:19 (+0100), mick.crane wrote: On 2024-05-31 13:58, gene heskett wrote: On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection. It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here, possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on. AFAICT from your posts Gene, you are the sole user on your LAN, so "sharing files" takes on a particular meaning. I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a file while you were half way through fetching it. AIUI you get a race. So unless you elaborate on who the potential agents are on your LAN (spouse, kids, kids mates), I don't think sshfs would be an appropriate choice, and neither does an author of the wikipedia page: "SSHFS is an alternative to those protocols [A(pple)FP, NFS, SMB] only in situations where users are confident that files and directories will not be targeted for writing by another user, at the same time." Well, since I'm alone, my wife passed 3.5 years back, and was not computer literate, its my show. And sshfs Just Works. I use this machine as the src for my output for some 3d printers, although the 4 linuxcnc machines are largely standalone in that the gcode I run on them was all written by me on that machine.. I often have more than one login session to a given machine because that machine may also be its own buildbot. Every machine has access to the world, but its all hidden behind a dd-wrt running router doing the NAT. I don't have to fight with samba/cifs and its daily updates to keep it working, permissions are 100% linux, nor do I fool with nfs and its weekly updates that always break it. But age is playing a role too, I have short term memory problems. Perhaps because of my age, I'll be 90 in October if I don't fall over first. The only dis to ssh and friends has been the local key files and keeping them up to date. That's very minor, its probably been a year since a new install on one of my pi clones had me hunting down an aging key file. Nothing like this broken bookworm install, its far more annoyance than any of the other problems. I'll miss morning roll call, and disappear soon enough and then it will be a bit more peaceful here. In the meantime, everybody take care and stay well. You are my connection to the rest of the world. Cheers, David. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
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On Fri 31 May 2024 at 17:30:19 (+0100), mick.crane wrote: > On 2024-05-31 13:58, gene heskett wrote: > > On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote: > > > On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: > > > > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over > > > > LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, > > > > NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective > > > > problems. > > > > > > I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one > > > connection. > > > > > It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here, > > possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on. AFAICT from your posts Gene, you are the sole user on your LAN, so "sharing files" takes on a particular meaning. > I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from > the directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody > deleted a file while you were half way through fetching it. AIUI you get a race. So unless you elaborate on who the potential agents are on your LAN (spouse, kids, kids mates), I don't think sshfs would be an appropriate choice, and neither does an author of the wikipedia page: "SSHFS is an alternative to those protocols [A(pple)FP, NFS, SMB] only in situations where users are confident that files and directories will not be targeted for writing by another user, at the same time." Cheers, David.
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On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 01:16:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > > I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the > > directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a > > file while you were half way through fetching it. > > If you're copying a file, that means some process has the file opened. (that's what I meant with "the meaning of fetch". Is it the drag process by the user? Then the file is not yet open -- and nothing will be copied. Is it the actual copy? Then your description is the most accurate one) > Removing (unlinking) a file that's opened causes it to vanish from the > raw directory, but the inode and the blocks of data are left alone until > all processes have closed it. Only then will it be marked for recyling. > > You'll just have to hope that the (remote) copy succeeds on the first > try, because once the remote reader loses connection, if the file is > closed on the server, it's gone. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the > directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a > file while you were half way through fetching it. If you're copying a file, that means some process has the file opened. Removing (unlinking) a file that's opened causes it to vanish from the raw directory, but the inode and the blocks of data are left alone until all processes have closed it. Only then will it be marked for recyling. You'll just have to hope that the (remote) copy succeeds on the first try, because once the remote reader loses connection, if the file is closed on the server, it's gone.
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On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 05:30:19PM +0100, mick.crane wrote: [...] > I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the > directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a > file while you were half way through fetching it. This will depend on the precise values you assign to "you" and "fetch". And, of course to "delete". Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On 2024-05-31 13:58, gene heskett wrote: On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection. mick It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here, possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on. I only drag stuff in and out of the directory in Thunar. Dragging from the directory takes a copy. I wondered what would happen if somebody deleted a file while you were half way through fetching it. mick
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On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 08:58:34AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote: > > On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: > > > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over > > > LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, > > > NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective > > > problems. > > > > I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection. > > mick > > > It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here, possability's of > up to 10 if all are turned on. > > . I interpreted mick's sentence to mean multiple connections between the same two computers, or perhaps multiple clients all connecting to a single server. A single client connecting to multiple servers was never in question, at least in my mind.
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On 5/30/24 20:09, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection. mick It does not, I have open sessions to 6 other machines here, possability's of up to 10 if all are turned on. . Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
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Dear Richard, But I never use pre-complied packages since by doing this I won't know whether I will install proprietary binaries. Yours, Carter On May 31, 2024 2:38:26 PM GMT+08:00, Richard wrote: >LocalSend and LanXchange are available as precompiled archives. Also, >LocalSend is available as Flatpak. > >Am Fr., 31. Mai 2024 um 04:52 Uhr schrieb Carter Zhang < >mcut17...@autistici.org>: > >> Dear Richard, >> >> Thank you for your reply. LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, >> Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot have their respective problems. >> >> LocalSend is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official >> repositories, and it is not so convenient to complie it from source using a >> machine with a memory of 8GB. >> >> LanXchange is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official >> repositories, source as well, and its source complication on my machine >> fails. >> >> The Android client for LANDrop is not libre. >> >> NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator and TrebleShot are all no longer updated >> and the latest version of them cannot be complied on modern GNU/Linux >> environment. >> >> In addition, KDE Connect sometimes disconnects and cannot reconnect. >> >> Yours, >> Carter >> >> >> On May 29, 2024 10:56:02 PM GMT+08:00, Richard wrote: >> >>> KDE connect? That has clients for many systems. >>> >>> But the question is, what's the issue with the existing solutions? It's >>> quite a useless task to recommend file transfer apps when they all have the >>> same issue you try to avoid. >>> >>> Richard >>> >> signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On 5/30/24 22:46, Carter Zhang wrote: Dear Dan, Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or NFS on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be appreciated. (lines wrapped) SFTP / SCP: https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/pushpitha/50334853/1538653/1538653_800.jpg NFS: it's not simple. -- Answer: two spoonfuls in my cup, please. Question: how much should I use? (why top-posting is bad) http://www.fscked.co.uk/writing/top-posting-cuss.html
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Dear Richard, Thank you for your reply. LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot have their respective problems. LocalSend is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official repositories, and it is not so convenient to complie it from source using a machine with a memory of 8GB. LanXchange is not available in Debian's and Trisquel's official repositories, source as well, and its source complication on my machine fails. The Android client for LANDrop is not libre. NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator and TrebleShot are all no longer updated and the latest version of them cannot be complied on modern GNU/Linux environment. In addition, KDE Connect sometimes disconnects and cannot reconnect. Yours, Carter On May 29, 2024 10:56:02 PM GMT+08:00, Richard wrote: >KDE connect? That has clients for many systems. > >But the question is, what's the issue with the existing solutions? It's >quite a useless task to recommend file transfer apps when they all have the >same issue you try to avoid. > >Richard signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Dear Dan, Sorry I forgot an CC. Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or NFS on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be appreciated. On May 29, 2024 11:37:55 PM GMT+08:00, Dan Ritter wrote: >Carter Zhang wrote: >> Dear Dan, >> >> Thanks a lot for your reply but I am not clear how to use SFTP, SCP or NFS >> on Android. Could you please show me how? Any help will be appreciated. >> > >Hi, Carter. > >The etiquette of the list is that everything goes in public, so >that solutions can be shared and are searchable. > >The other side of it is that everyone is volunteering their own >time, so discussions in public benefit everyone, whereas private >discussions are just unpaid consulting. > > >-dsr- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On 5/30/24 20:08, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection. You mean two different machines using sshfs to the same server? I don't see why it would. It's vanilla SSH to the outside world and ssh works just fine when multiple users log in. -- Perhaps this final act was meant / to clinch a lifetime's argument That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could Fr all thse born bneath an angry star / Lest we frget hw fragile we are -- Sting, "Fragile" from _... Nothing Like the Sun_
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On 2024-05-29 15:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. I don't know if sshfs would have issues with more than one connection. mick
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A client that by your own words barely works, while fully functional alternatives have been available for many years already. So what's your point? Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 14:23 Uhr schrieb Anssi Saari < anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>: > > Wow. I already mentioned an open source client? What's your point? > >
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Richard writes: > There have already been many answers. And since it's highly unlikely any > third party will include support for such a > closed down system, you might want to look at them. At least I don't think > Google will suddenly open source Nearby Share > for everyone to write clients for it. Wow. I already mentioned an open source client? What's your point?
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There have already been many answers. And since it's highly unlikely any third party will include support for such a closed down system, you might want to look at them. At least I don't think Google will suddenly open source Nearby Share for everyone to write clients for it. Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 11:00 Uhr schrieb Anssi Saari < anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>: > I'd like to know too, assuming you're asking for transferring files > between Android and Linux. > > I'd like Quick Share support in Linux as it's built into Android and > available for Windows. Someone has an early version at > https://github.com/Martichou/rquickshare but I only got it working one > way, Linux PC to phone and even that needed disabling the firewall on > the PC. But maybe that'll improve. > >
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Carter Zhang writes: > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? > There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, > LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective > problems. I'd like to know too, assuming you're asking for transferring files between Android and Linux. I'd like Quick Share support in Linux as it's built into Android and available for Windows. Someone has an early version at https://github.com/Martichou/rquickshare but I only got it working one way, Linux PC to phone and even that needed disabling the firewall on the PC. But maybe that'll improve.
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On 5/29/24 13:34, Monte Milanuk wrote: SyncThing On 5/29/24 07:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. So does sshfs, but its free, and it just works. I regularly move <1 to 60 gigabyte gcode files to my printers with it. The occasional 30 to 60 gigger gets moved to a pi clone over cat5-6 in 2 to 4 seconds. I don't know why folks think they have to have an ap for something so simple as moving a file. sshfs mounts the target device as if its a storage disk. But since its ssh based, its also encrypted, making it relatively safe from wifi snoopers. rsync operates much the same but uses checksums to verify the copy is verbatum. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
Hi, On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:07:17PM +0800, Carter Zhang wrote: > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files > over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, > NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have > respective problems. Your post is woefully short of details. Which of the above did you like best, despite it not being sufficient? What was deficient about it? No one can easily answer your question without knowing what your requirements are and what problems you faced with the above solutions. Depending on what your needs are, the answer is possibly, "not that we know of." Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
On 5/29/24 07:58, Curt wrote: I travel to https://pairdrop.net/ on both devices on the LAN for the occasional file transfer. There is an Android app, although you don't need one (merely a browser). Thanks for that... I may have to set that up with my wife's iPhone. Getting her to use SyncThing - or any app outside the Apple ecosystem - has been a struggle. This should make it easier for us to share the occasional photo or video!
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
SyncThing On 5/29/24 07:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems.
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
On Wed, 29 May 2024 22:07:17 +0800 Carter Zhang wrote: > but they have respective problems. We can't advise you very well if we don't know what you think their respective problems are. A more important question: What problem would you like to solve? -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
On 2024-05-29, Carter Zhang wrote: > > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? > There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik > Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems=2E I just go to https://pairdrop.net/ on the both devices on the land for the occasional file transfer. Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user From: Curt Subject: Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps References: <8d2a6e13-9f36-47ed-a2e4-7543b1701...@autistici.org> Organization: Unorganized Followup-To: On 2024-05-29, Carter Zhang wrote: > > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over > LAN? > There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, > Sharik > Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems=2E I travel to https://pairdrop.net/ on both devices on the LAN for the occasional file transfer. There is an Android app, although you don't need one (merely a browser). https://github.com/schlagmichdoch/pairdrop/blob/master/docs/faq.md
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
KDE connect? That has clients for many systems. But the question is, what's the issue with the existing solutions? It's quite a useless task to recommend file transfer apps when they all have the same issue you try to avoid. Richard
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
rsync - which is biderectional and uses checksums for correct transfer. Best Hans
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
On 5/29/24 10:07, Carter Zhang wrote: Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. scp / sshd nc, but you don't get authentication _or_ encryption -- You can't get a leopard to change his spots... You can explain it care- fully to the leopard, but it will just sit there lookng at you, knowing that you are made of meat. After a while it will perhaps kill you. Geoffrey Pullum, Language Log (2007-01-04)
Re: Question About Free File Transfering Apps
Carter Zhang wrote: > Are there any free apps for GNU/Linux and Android to share files over LAN? > There have already been LocalSend, LanXchange, LANDrop, NitroShare, Sharik, > Warpinator, TrebleShot, but they have respective problems. On the Debian side, options include: - SFTP and SCP via SSH - SMB via samba - NFS v3 and v4 - various DAV implementations - SyncThing - and, although the server is not currently packaged, NextCloud is reasonably easy to get up and running on Debian stable. All of these have clients of various kinds on Android and other systems. -dsr-
Question About Free File Transfering Apps
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question on free
Hi, Whenever the memory usage on my machine goes up and I use free I get the following total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 63252 57316 5936 31364 9492 -/+ buffers:478244190748 ^^^ Swap: 130748 0 130748 31016 Obviously this is wrong. Is this a bug or what ? Thanks George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: question on free
G. Kapetanios wrote: Whenever the memory usage on my machine goes up and I use free I get the following total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 63252 57316 5936 31364 9492 -/+ buffers:478244190748 ^^^ Swap: 130748 0 130748 31016 Obviously this is wrong. Is this a bug or what ? This is a bug. It's been reported several times, and the maintainer of procps is aware of it and has promised a fix. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
