RE: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob)

2000-05-22 Thread Richard Lyon
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Albert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 21 May 2000 5:52 PM
 To: Karl M. Hegbloom
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad
 install prob)
 
 CrossBrand - BIOS upgrade/reference disks corrupted by Windows 95/98 
 Applicable Countries: Worldwide

Thanks for this information. This explains some of the floppy disk
corruptions we have at work. Does this still happen when
the disk write protect tab is open?

The cure is to clearly label every disk with a large warning.

Regards
Richard



RE: Realtime sched and floppy (Was: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob))

2000-05-22 Thread Richard Lyon
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Karl M. Hegbloom
 Sent: Sunday, 21 May 2000 12:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Robert Waldner; debian-user@lists.debian.org; Michael Skipper
 Subject: Realtime sched and floppy (Was: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box
 under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob))

 Richard It works correctly from the dos box in WIN98 second
 Richard  edition. I wouldn't
 Richard recommend trying it while you have other application running.

  Linux has similar trouble under certain conditions.

The motivation for my comment is that you don't want any application trying
to access the drive apart from rawrite. You'll be suprised how often this
can
happen and it totally stuffs things up.

Regards
Richard





RE: Realtime sched and floppy (Was: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob))

2000-05-22 Thread Michael Skipper
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Karl M. Hegbloom
 Sent: Sunday, 21 May 2000 12:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Robert Waldner; debian-user@lists.debian.org; Michael Skipper
 Subject: Realtime sched and floppy (Was: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box
 under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob))

 Richard It works correctly from the dos box in WIN98 second
 Richard  edition. I wouldn't
 Richard recommend trying it while you have other application running.

  Linux has similar trouble under certain conditions.

The motivation for my comment is that you don't want any application trying
to access the drive apart from rawrite. You'll be suprised how often this
can
happen and it totally stuffs things up.

Regards
Richard

I had the original thinkpad problem. Turns out I was making the floppies
correctly (rawrite2 in plain DOS)--for some reason my TP didn't like
slink (or at least the source of those files). I have sucessfully installed
potato (16 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and am now thoroughly and happily confused
(thanks to Gary in Wien for suggesting it!). I am resisting the urge to
query the list daily (actually I'm too busy this week to do so) and plan
to R all TFMs.

Related to another thread, has there been any discussion of a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] perhaps some of the more experienced folk could
rotate monitoring it. Just a thought. Thanks to all for allowing me to
learn a little through osmosis.

Mike Skipper




Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob)

2000-05-21 Thread Martin Albert
On Sat, 20 May 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
 Robert Every floppy I've written in a DOS-box so far wrote fine but
 Robert didn't work, so I strongly recommend booting into real DOS (via
 Robert F8 when Starting Windows 9x...).
 
  Have other people exerienced this?  (I've never used Windows = 3.1,
  so I don't know.)

CrossBrand - BIOS upgrade/reference disks corrupted by Windows 95/98 
Applicable Countries: Worldwide
Service Hints  Tips
Symptom:
Performing a DIR command in the Windows 95/98 environment on a Flash
BIOS update diskette or a PS/2 Reference Diskette may cause the
diskette to become inoperative. This affects ALL IntelliStations,
PS/ValuePoint, IBM PCs and PS/2 systems.

Problem Isolation Aid: None ;-)

Fix:
Microsoft uses an 8 byte block on the diskette for labelling purposes in
Windows 95/98. When a DIR command is executed, this 8 byte block is
written to by Windows 95.

The Diskette Drive A: Icon under the My Computer folder in
Windows 95/98 has the same affect as the DIR command.

IBM uses this same 8 byte block for Flash BIOS updates and PS/2 Reference
Diskettes to ensure that the Flash is occurring in a stable environment.

Once the 8 byte block has been written to by the Windows 95/98 DIR
command, the Flash diskette or Reference Diskette will display an
error indicating that This is not a valid Flash Disketteor This is
not the correct Reference Diskette for this system.

-
roger? greetings, martin



rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob)

2000-05-20 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 Robert == Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Michael Skipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 When I try to boot from the rescue floppy (downloaded from the
 http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/
 ch-install-methods.en.html#s-file-descs area and written to
 floppy with rawrite2 in DOS), the install hangs after the following:

Robert Did you write the floppy in _real_ DOS or in a DOS-box in Win9x?

Robert Every floppy I've written in a DOS-box so far wrote fine but
Robert didn't work, so I strongly recommend booting into real DOS (via
Robert F8 when Starting Windows 9x...).

 Have other people exerienced this?  (I've never used Windows = 3.1,
 so I don't know.)

-- 
Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly.
A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library.

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RE: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob)

2000-05-20 Thread Richard Lyon
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Karl M. Hegbloom
 Sent: Saturday, 20 May 2000 4:00 PM
 To: Robert Waldner
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org; Michael Skipper
 Subject: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad
 install prob)

  Have other people exerienced this?  (I've never used Windows = 3.1,
  so I don't know.)
 

It works correctly from the dos box in WIN98 second edition. I wouldn't
recommend trying it while you have other application running.

Regards ...



Realtime sched and floppy (Was: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob))

2000-05-20 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 Richard == Richard Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Karl M. Hegbloom
 Sent: Saturday, 20 May 2000 4:00 PM
 To: Robert Waldner
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org; Michael Skipper
 Subject: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad
 install prob)
 
 Have other people exerienced this?  (I've never used Windows = 3.1,
 so I don't know.)
 

Richard It works correctly from the dos box in WIN98 second edition. I 
wouldn't
Richard recommend trying it while you have other application running.

 Linux has similar trouble under certain conditions.  I wrote a little
 program that will set the scheduling policy and priority of a PID,
 and used it to set the `esd' (enlightened sound daemon) to Round
 Robin Scheduling with a high priority, so that the music doesn't skip
 when I switch virtual desktop screens in `sawmill'.  With that
 setting, burning a floppy image with `dd' produces `boot-floppies'
 root.bin diskettes that fail the CRC check.  Resetting the `esd'
 scheduling policy to the standard setting, I find that diskette
 images I burn work fine, given the identical image file and diskette.

 So if you're using POSIX real-time scheduling, don't use the floppy
 disk.  The floppy won't get all of the timeslices it needs, and will
 be unreliable.

-- 
Those who do not study Lisp are doomed to reimplement it - Poorly.
A few months in the laboratory often saves several hours at the library.

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)