removing debian-multimedia from sources.list

2011-03-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

Hi everybody,
I had a problem reading 1 iso file with vlc(it works with all others)
   libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00f5. Regions: 2 4
   libdvdnav: ifoOpenVTSI failed
I then  went to the videolan forum, and found there an instruction to
remove the debian-multimedia from the sources.list. Here is an extract
of the thread:

   =
   A significant number of VLC users on Debian and Ubuntu appear to be
   hit by bugs in the unofficial so-called Debian Multimedia repository
   (debian-multimedia.org).

   This unofficial package repository is well known to introduce
   incompatibilities in the FFMPEG libraries. This causes VLC media
   player and possibly some other multimedia software to stop working,
   as the FFMPEG binary interface is silently broken. The VideoLAN
   project strongly advises that you do not use the Debian Multimedia
   repository under any circumstances. Before you report problems with
   VLC on Debian or Ubuntu, make sure you have not installed any package
   from that repository.
   =

Before reporting this problem, I followed exactly the instructions. 
The net result was that:

1/ the problem with vlc remains
2/ I loose k9copy, which seems to be available only from debian-multimedia,
   and also a lot of useful packages, like transcode, dvd-slideshow,...

Has anybody followed these curious recommandations?

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Re: removing debian-multimedia from sources.list

2011-03-24 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
24/03/2011 18:06, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 I had a problem reading 1 iso file with vlc(it works with all others)
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00f5.
 Regions: 2 4
libdvdnav: ifoOpenVTSI failed
 I then  went to the videolan forum, and found there an instruction to
 remove the debian-multimedia from the sources.list. Here is an extract
 of the thread:
 
=
A significant number of VLC users on Debian and Ubuntu appear to be
hit by bugs in the unofficial so-called Debian Multimedia repository
(debian-multimedia.org).
 
This unofficial package repository is well known to introduce
incompatibilities in the FFMPEG libraries. This causes VLC media
player and possibly some other multimedia software to stop working,
as the FFMPEG binary interface is silently broken. The VideoLAN
project strongly advises that you do not use the Debian Multimedia
repository under any circumstances. Before you report problems with
VLC on Debian or Ubuntu, make sure you have not installed any package
from that repository.
=
 
 Before reporting this problem, I followed exactly the instructions. The
 net result was that:
 1/ the problem with vlc remains
 2/ I loose k9copy, which seems to be available only from debian-multimedia,
and also a lot of useful packages, like transcode, dvd-slideshow,...
 
 Has anybody followed these curious recommandations?
 

Hi, the problem that probably triggered this recommendation is long
gone, at the time there was an incompatibility between d-m libav* and
Debian vlc if I recall correctly.
I use d-m currently and have no problem with vlc which I use daily, as
you noticed your problem seems to be somewhere else. I am not even sure
there is a libdvdnav(4) or vlc package in d-m right now...

Regarding d-m and Debian, of course you use external repositories at
your own risks, but it's generally pretty safe with d-m, and its main
maintainer is also a Debian developer. You could add d-m to sources.list
but use a low pinning priority, and just pull what you want explicitly.
However, this could trigger dependencies problems.
When you have or suspect a problem with a d-m package the best way to
ask for help is the d-m users list [1], which any d-m user should follow
IMHO.


[1] dmo-discuss...@debian-multimedia.org


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Re: removing debian-multimedia from sources.list

2011-03-24 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:


Hi, the problem that probably triggered this recommendation is long
gone, at the time there was an incompatibility between d-m libav* and
Debian vlc if I recall correctly.


  they should say, in the videolan forum, that this recommandation is obsolete!


I use d-m currently and have no problem with vlc which I use daily, as
you noticed your problem seems to be somewhere else. I am not even sure
there is a libdvdnav(4) or vlc package in d-m right now...


  I also used it up to now with no problem, but the one with vlc,
  which doesn't come from d-m.


Regarding d-m and Debian, of course you use external repositories at
your own risks, but it's generally pretty safe with d-m, and its main
maintainer is also a Debian developer. You could add d-m to sources.list
but use a low pinning priority, and just pull what you want explicitly.
However, this could trigger dependencies problems.


  Actually, I think it's better to revert to my old sources.list, to
  avoid the dependancies problems I had when I used Pin-Priority


When you have or suspect a problem with a d-m package the best way to
ask for help is the d-m users list [1], which any d-m user should follow
IMHO.


[1] dmo-discuss...@debian-multimedia.org


   I was not aware of this list. Thank you for the information.

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