Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, David Wright wrote: d.wrig >Err, wrong. Root can ignore ownership and permissions, but that's d.wrig >about it. Any program that allowed root to do whatever it liked d.wrig >would be insane. there are kernel patches out there to restrict usage too..the patches i use restrict access to important files like /bin/login can't be touched without changing the kernel first .. nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 12:55pm up 151 days, 58 min, 1 user, load average: 0.38, 0.33, 0.34
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
On Mon, 17 Jan, 2000 à 12:57:43PM +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote: > Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory > but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had > weird permissions: > > c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts > > Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes > ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. > I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the > only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. > > Any suggestions??? > Have a look to man lsattr and man chattr -- ( >- Laurent PICOULEAU -< ) /~\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /~\ | \)Linux : mettez un pingouin dans votre ordinateur !(/ | \_|_Seuls ceux qui ne l'utilisent pas en disent du mal. _|_/
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
On 17/1/2000 Ron Rademaker wrote: Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had weird permissions: c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. Any suggestions??? the only thing that would stop root from doing those things is the immutability bit (or a read only filesystem but that gives a different error), see what lsattr says about it if it shows something like i--- then it is immutable, you can try to run chattr -i fonts but that might not work if something is really screwed up. (as that file looks to be) if the kernel thinks its immutable but chattr does not or won't remove the immutable bit, i have no idea how you will get rid of that thing! Ethan
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
Quoting Ron Rademaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Subject: root should be able to do anything... right??? Err, wrong. Root can ignore ownership and permissions, but that's about it. Any program that allowed root to do whatever it liked would be insane. > Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory > but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had > weird permissions: > > c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts > > Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes > ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. > I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the > only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. > > Any suggestions??? I agree with Eric. I think you've got a problem on that disk, even if it's not actually dying. It might be worth checking with fsck or examining with debugfs. I don't know much about this sort of thing, but fsck might put the directory's files into lost+found. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
Try lsattr and chattr... Regards, Onno At 12:57 PM 1/17/00 +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote: > >Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory >but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had >weird permissions: > > c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts > >Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes >ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. >I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the >only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. > >Any suggestions??? > >Ron > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > >
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
i suggest running an e2fsck on the drive there may be errors in the filesystem nate On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote: ron > ron >Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory ron >but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had ron >weird permissions: ron > ron > c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts ron > ron >Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes ron >ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. ron >I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the ron >only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. ron > ron >Any suggestions??? ron > ron >Ron ron > ron > ron >-- ron >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null ron > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 7:21am up 150 days, 19:24, 2 users, load average: 0.27, 0.29, 0.33
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Ron Rademaker wrote: > > > > > Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory > > but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had > > weird permissions: > > > > c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts > > > > Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes > > ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. > > I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the > > only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. > > > > Any suggestions??? > > >From my mailing list archive: > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clint Adams) > cc: Debian User Mailing List > Subject: Re: File impossible to delete > Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 15:20:49 -0400 > From: Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This is one for the books! > > Clint Adams wrote: > > > > On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > > > > Somehow, I got a corrupted file on my system: > > > > > > > > bash-2.00# ls -l /root/Mail/ > > > > total 269488144 > > > > c---r- 8240 8224 8224 32, 48 Aug 2 1995 drafts > > > > > > > > I can't delete it! > > > > You're going to need to use debugfs to get rid of it. > > This worked (with /dev/sda3 mounted as the root filesystem): > > debugfs -w -R "rm /root/Mail/drafts" /dev/sda3 > > Thanks everybody! > -- > Peter Galbraith, research scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada > P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 > It worked!@
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
I tried to do a lsattr, when it reached fonts I got: lsattr: No such device While reading flags on ./fonts Ron On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Todd Suess wrote: > Use lsattr and check the attributes on the file, if is is listed as type > i (imutable) for example, you will not be able to remove the file unless > you use chattr and remove the attribute first. > > Regards, > > Todd > > > > At 12:57 PM 1/17/00 +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote: > > >Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory > >but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had > >weird permissions: > > > > c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts > > > >Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes > >ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. > >I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the > >only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. > > > >Any suggestions??? > > > >Ron > > > > > >-- > >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > >/dev/null > >
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
Ron Rademaker wrote: > > Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory > but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had > weird permissions: > > c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts > > Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes > ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. > I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the > only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. > > Any suggestions??? >From my mailing list archive: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clint Adams) cc: Debian User Mailing List Subject: Re: File impossible to delete Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 15:20:49 -0400 From: Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is one for the books! Clint Adams wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > > Somehow, I got a corrupted file on my system: > > > > > > bash-2.00# ls -l /root/Mail/ > > > total 269488144 > > > c---r- 8240 8224 8224 32, 48 Aug 2 1995 drafts > > > > > > I can't delete it! > > You're going to need to use debugfs to get rid of it. This worked (with /dev/sda3 mounted as the root filesystem): debugfs -w -R "rm /root/Mail/drafts" /dev/sda3 Thanks everybody! -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
On Hai, 17 Giªng 2000, Ron Rademaker wrote: > Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory > but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had > weird permissions: > > c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts > > Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes > ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. > I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the > only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. > > Any suggestions??? Have you checked the immutability bit with chattr, try a chattr -i fonts. But it looks like your hard drive is corrupted, I'd fsck it before trying to remove the directory/file. -- Ashley Clark
Re: root should be able to do anything... right???
Use lsattr and check the attributes on the file, if is is listed as type i (imutable) for example, you will not be able to remove the file unless you use chattr and remove the attribute first. Regards, Todd At 12:57 PM 1/17/00 +0100, Ron Rademaker wrote: Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had weird permissions: c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. Any suggestions??? Ron -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
root should be able to do anything... right???
Last week I've send a mail about a weird file, that should be a directory but it was a character device. (/usr/X11R6/include/X11/fonts). It also had weird permissions: c---r- 1 8224 10280 49, 117 Dec 1 2031 fonts Now I'm trying to remove this file, the system won't allow me (yes ofcourse I'm root). I've also tried rm -f. I've tried to chown the 'file'/'character device' to root and a chmod, the only thing I get to see is Operation not permitted. Any suggestions??? Ron
