Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-30 Thread Wackojacko


 
Thanks. It is clear from this that Rsync Mirrors is not at all what
I thought it was. I had thought it was an improvement on jigdo for 
downloading an updated version of an iso for which I already had an
older, out-of-date file. 


What I had thought was that I could take my netinst.iso from a few
months before Lenny release and rsync it into being a true copy of the
latest version of Lenny netinst without having to transfer ALL the
individual bits of the new copy. That would save some time and
bandwidth over downloading a whole new copy, but ... I sure was
mistaken. I certainly don't want to mirror the whole Lenny repository
locally. No wonder Thorny was puzzled by my question!


This is exactly how I use jigdo.  Mount the iso to /mnt/somedir and then 
scan the mount point for files that exist in the new image before asking 
to download.  I also scan  /var/cache/apt/archives for any packages I 
have updated since the original iso was downloaded.




My download of a new netinst is half done while I composed this reply.



Probably a bit late now!

Thanks.


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Thorny
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted:

 I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am
 running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to
 do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what to
 do to use these mirrors.


Where on that page do you see this list?
 
 I suppose I use a console or an xterm, and type something. What do I type?
 What preparations should I make prior to typing an rsync command? Should I
 find a copy of an iso of my netinstall from the time when Lenny was still
 in testing, and use it as starter files to speed the rsync?
 

What is it you are trying to achieve? Do you want to mirror one of those
sites, do you have that much storage space locally?

If you are a bit more specific, someone can probably help you.




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Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted:
 
  I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am
  running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to
  do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what to
  do to use these mirrors.
 
 
 Where on that page do you see this list?

I start at:
http://www.debian.org/

I click on CD ISO images in the left hand column.
This takes me to:
http://www.debian.org/CD/

I click on Rsync Mirrors in the left hand column.
This takes me to:
http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/rsync-mirrors

On this page there is a bullet list. In each line of this list there is some
text starting with rsync. This text is rendered in red by iceweasel.
At first glance the text looks to be a command that might be executed at a
command line, but closer examination leads me to believe that it is not a 
well formed command. I am asking what I should do to make use of the information
in this list. In particular, since I live in Colorado, I think I should focus
my attention on the line:

# United States: debian.mirrors.tds.net: rsync 
debian.mirrors.tds.net::debian-cd/

which refers to a server in my part of the country. (Red doesn't come thru in
my cut and paste. Nor do bullets.)

  
  I suppose I use a console or an xterm, and type something. What do I type?
  What preparations should I make prior to typing an rsync command? Should I
  find a copy of an iso of my netinstall from the time when Lenny was still
  in testing, and use it as starter files to speed the rsync?
  
 
 What is it you are trying to achieve? Do you want to mirror one of those
 sites, do you have that much storage space locally?
 
 If you are a bit more specific, someone can probably help you.

I want to burn an up-to-date Lenny netinstall CD for future use. For
this I need an up-to-date CD ISO image of Lenny netinstall. If Rsync
Mirrors are not intended for this purpose, I am indeed, misinformed,
and need more and different guidance than I was asking for.

Additional, new information: 
Since posting my first message, I made an guess as to what to do and
succeeded in provoking a responce from the site and some error
messages. One of the messages is significant to me. It reported a
failure to execute chroot properly. (I don't remember the exact
wording.) What is important about this error is that I have never
knowingly used chroot. I did mention it in what I tried, and have no
idea what or why chroot invocation was attempted.  This might give
potential responders some idea of the depth of my ignorance. Please 
don't assume too much about my knowledge. 


TIA, and I apologize for my inadequately worded question.
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Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 09:36:17AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote:
  On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted:
  
   I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am
   running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync to
   do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what to
   do to use these mirrors.
  
  
  Where on that page do you see this list?
 
 I start at:
 http://www.debian.org/
 
 I click on CD ISO images in the left hand column.
 This takes me to:
 http://www.debian.org/CD/
 
 I click on Rsync Mirrors in the left hand column.
 This takes me to:
 http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/rsync-mirrors
 
 On this page there is a bullet list. In each line of this list there is some
 text starting with rsync. This text is rendered in red by iceweasel.
 At first glance the text looks to be a command that might be executed at a
 command line, but closer examination leads me to believe that it is not a 
 well formed command. I am asking what I should do to make use of the 
 information
 in this list. In particular, since I live in Colorado, I think I should focus
 my attention on the line:
 
 # United States: debian.mirrors.tds.net: rsync 
 debian.mirrors.tds.net::debian-cd/
 
 which refers to a server in my part of the country. (Red doesn't come thru in
 my cut and paste. Nor do bullets.)
 
Aptitude install rsync / apt-get install rsync

Then (probably as root)

rsync debian.mirrors.tds.net::debian-cd/

Which would get you the whole of the debian-cd/ tree.

This is probably _NOT_ what you want.

Try downloading a netinst via http (go to http://cdimage.debian.org and 
browse down till you get to your architecture)

OR

aptitude install jigdo-file / apt-get install jigdo-file

Then download the template and .jigdo file from cdimage.org and, as 
root, run

jigdo-lite

in the same directory as the directory you downloaded them to.

This will then prompt you for your nearest mirror and will build the 
image by getting ten or so files at a time until the image is complete.

All best,

AndyC

   
   I suppose I use a console or an xterm, and type something. What do I type?
   What preparations should I make prior to typing an rsync command? Should I
   find a copy of an iso of my netinstall from the time when Lenny was still
   in testing, and use it as starter files to speed the rsync?
   
  
  What is it you are trying to achieve? Do you want to mirror one of those
  sites, do you have that much storage space locally?
  
  If you are a bit more specific, someone can probably help you.
 
 I want to burn an up-to-date Lenny netinstall CD for future use. For
 this I need an up-to-date CD ISO image of Lenny netinstall. If Rsync
 Mirrors are not intended for this purpose, I am indeed, misinformed,
 and need more and different guidance than I was asking for.
 
 Additional, new information: 
 Since posting my first message, I made an guess as to what to do and
 succeeded in provoking a responce from the site and some error
 messages. One of the messages is significant to me. It reported a
 failure to execute chroot properly. (I don't remember the exact
 wording.) What is important about this error is that I have never
 knowingly used chroot. I did mention it in what I tried, and have no
 idea what or why chroot invocation was attempted.  This might give
 potential responders some idea of the depth of my ignorance. Please 
 don't assume too much about my knowledge. 
 
 
 TIA, and I apologize for my inadequately worded question.
 -- 
 Paul E Condon   
 pecon...@mesanetworks.net
 
 
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Re: rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-29_16:45:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 09:36:17AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
  On 2009-03-29_06:07:29, Thorny wrote:
   On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:01:17 -0600, Paul E Condon posted:
   
I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org. I am
running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully used rsync 
to
do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN. But I don't know what 
to
...
  which refers to a server in my part of the country. (Red doesn't come thru 
  in
  my cut and paste. Nor do bullets.)
  
 Aptitude install rsync / apt-get install rsync
 
 Then (probably as root)
 
 rsync debian.mirrors.tds.net::debian-cd/
 
 Which would get you the whole of the debian-cd/ tree.
 
 This is probably _NOT_ what you want.
 
 Try downloading a netinst via http (go to http://cdimage.debian.org and 
 browse down till you get to your architecture)
 
 OR
 
 aptitude install jigdo-file / apt-get install jigdo-file
 
 Then download the template and .jigdo file from cdimage.org and, as 
 root, run
 
 jigdo-lite
 
 in the same directory as the directory you downloaded them to.
 
 This will then prompt you for your nearest mirror and will build the 
 image by getting ten or so files at a time until the image is complete.
 
 All best,
 
 AndyC
 
Thanks. It is clear from this that Rsync Mirrors is not at all what
I thought it was. I had thought it was an improvement on jigdo for 
downloading an updated version of an iso for which I already had an
older, out-of-date file. 

What I had thought was that I could take my netinst.iso from a few
months before Lenny release and rsync it into being a true copy of the
latest version of Lenny netinst without having to transfer ALL the
individual bits of the new copy. That would save some time and
bandwidth over downloading a whole new copy, but ... I sure was
mistaken. I certainly don't want to mirror the whole Lenny repository
locally. No wonder Thorny was puzzled by my question!

My download of a new netinst is half done while I composed this reply.

Thanks.
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rsync mirrors of debian CD How?

2009-03-28 Thread Paul E Condon
I see a list of rsync mirrors for an install CD at www.debian.org.
I am running Lenny and have rsync installed. I have successfully
used rsync to do backups locally between hosts on the same LAN.
But I don't know what to do to use these mirrors.

I suppose I use a console or an xterm, and type something. What do
I type? What preparations should I make prior to typing an rsync 
command? Should I find a copy of an iso of my netinstall from 
the time when Lenny was still in testing, and use it as starter
files to speed the rsync? 

Are the answers to all these questions somewhere on www.debian.org?
Where?

TIA

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