Re: scsi controllers, bsd file system

1997-06-28 Thread Paul Wade
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> a-hah!  I've gotten somewhere--but it's not good.
> 
> Once I connected the three scsi devices, I found that it finds all 3.
> But . . . The last device in the list does not get a /dev/srX entry.
> Thus with jus a cd and a zip in the chain, the cd gets one, but not the
> zip.  With both cd's & the zip, both cd's but not the zip.  with just a
> cd, nothing gets one.  e.g.:
 
> scsi0 : BIOS version 3.4 at 0xc8000 using scsi id 7
> scsi0 : TMC-18C30 chip at 0x140 irq 11
> scsi0 : Future Domain TMC-16x0 SCSI driver, version 5.44
> scsi : 1 host.
>   Vendor: SONY  Model: CD-ROM CDU-8001   Rev: 3.2i
>   Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0
>   Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100   Rev: D.09
>   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> 
> and there should be, but isn't, a recognition that the zip is id5 and
> sr1.  

Is SCSI termination correct for all tested combinations?

The fdomain card should have a jumper (w4 usually) for termination. Is it
in or out? If the board is not labeled, I can look up the setting.

Are all devices on one cable or do you have both internal and external
cables in use?
 
> Also, i think the nec drive has a problem.  I can mount my kids cds as
> iso devices in the apple drive (don't know how far i could read, but at
> least the beginnings), but not on the nec (which hangs).

Maybe testing the nec as the only device with proper termination at each
end would help.
 
> I can't mount these cd's that you've so generously sent, though.  I've
> tried iso9660 and ext2.  Are they possibly msdos?  (i'm compiling more
> modules for this at the moment).

They are iso9660 and if you mount them on a dos or windows system they
should even be readable, but with 8.3 filenames. I have tested a lot of
them on my funky 2x soundblaster, which often gets errors on silver
CD-ROMs and they play well. If you can pop them into somebody's w95 or dos
pc, it will assure that they are readable. It's possible that the kid's
CDs appear OK because the directory is small, hence less transfer needed
to mount it.

What message do you get when you try to mount these CD's?

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Re: scsi controllers, bsd file system

1997-06-28 Thread Stephen Zander
Rick Hawkins wrote:
> 
> a-hah!  I've gotten somewhere--but it's not good.
> 
> Once I connected the three scsi devices, I found that it finds all 3.
> But . . . The last device in the list does not get a /dev/srX entry.
> Thus with jus a cd and a zip in the chain, the cd gets one, but not the
> zip.  With both cd's & the zip, both cd's but not the zip.  with just a
> cd, nothing gets one.  e.g.:

I've not been following your troubles closely but this triggere a quick
thought...

Are you sure you don't have a SCSI bus termination problem??  Does altering
the order of the devices change the behaviour?


Stephen
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Re: scsi controllers, bsd file system

1997-06-25 Thread Rick Hawkins

a-hah!  I've gotten somewhere--but it's not good.

Once I connected the three scsi devices, I found that it finds all 3.
But . . . The last device in the list does not get a /dev/srX entry.
Thus with jus a cd and a zip in the chain, the cd gets one, but not the
zip.  With both cd's & the zip, both cd's but not the zip.  with just a
cd, nothing gets one.  e.g.:

scsi0 : BIOS version 3.4 at 0xc8000 using scsi id 7
scsi0 : TMC-18C30 chip at 0x140 irq 11
scsi0 : Future Domain TMC-16x0 SCSI driver, version 5.44
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: SONY  Model: CD-ROM CDU-8001   Rev: 3.2i
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0
  Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100   Rev: D.09
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

and there should be, but isn't, a recognition that the zip is id5 and
sr1.  

Also, i think the nec drive has a problem.  I can mount my kids cds as
iso devices in the apple drive (don't know how far i could read, but at
least the beginnings), but not on the nec (which hangs).

I can't mount these cd's that you've so generously sent, though.  I've
tried iso9660 and ext2.  Are they possibly msdos?  (i'm compiling more
modules for this at the moment).

rick


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Re: scsi controllers, bsd file system

1997-06-25 Thread Paul Wade
On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote:

> grr.  Still going :(  I am about to connect more pieces here in the
> chain.
> 
> Device 0 (i can't figure out how to change the id; the switches seem to
> do nothing) will be this troublesome NEC intersect drive.  Device 3 is
> an ancient apple cdrom drive--it should be able to read the directory &
> first few megs (if anyone understands how to recalibrate these ancient
> sony monstrosities with their timing slug, i'd be eternally grateful!).
> Device 5 is a zip, with my macbsd partitions.
> 
> Which leads to the magic question:  what type is a netbsd (but not their
> newfs) disk?  is it still type 83?  a5 (bsd386)?  b7 (BSDI fs)?
> 
> and is anyone out there using a trantor t160?
> 
> The next step is to use the distribution kernel, but:  how do i extract
> it from resc1440.bin?  

The file named 'linux' in /bo/disks-i386/current is a kernel. I think it's
the same as the one in the rescue disk. It's the same size.

You can mount the rescue image on loopback and copy files from it.

mount resc1440.bin -r -t msdos -o loop /mnt/floppy1

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scsi controllers, bsd file system

1997-06-25 Thread Rick Hawkins

grr.  Still going :(  I am about to connect more pieces here in the
chain.

Device 0 (i can't figure out how to change the id; the switches seem to
do nothing) will be this troublesome NEC intersect drive.  Device 3 is
an ancient apple cdrom drive--it should be able to read the directory &
first few megs (if anyone understands how to recalibrate these ancient
sony monstrosities with their timing slug, i'd be eternally grateful!).
Device 5 is a zip, with my macbsd partitions.

Which leads to the magic question:  what type is a netbsd (but not their
newfs) disk?  is it still type 83?  a5 (bsd386)?  b7 (BSDI fs)?

and is anyone out there using a trantor t160?

The next step is to use the distribution kernel, but:  how do i extract
it from resc1440.bin?  

rick


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