Difference between ssh1 ssh2 ssh3 3.0.2

2002-02-01 Thread Dean Roman
Hello all,

   Can anyone tell the major differences between ssh1 ssh2 ssh3 3.0.2 ,
etc.

  Why would I want one as apposed to the other?
  What are some of the gotchas associated with these?
   Is one more secure?
   Are they all interoperable?
   Has any one broke through ssh1 or ssh2 yet?  Or is it just the
possibility?


Thanks,
   ---Dean.




Re: Difference between ssh1 ssh2 ssh3 3.0.2

2002-02-01 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 03:46:29AM -0800, Dean Roman wrote:
 
Can anyone tell the major differences between ssh1 ssh2 ssh3 3.0.2 ,
 etc.

There are two different issues here: SSH the protocol, and SSH the
implementation.  Only two major versions of the protocol exist: 1 and 2.
Use 2 where possible.  It is much improved over version 1, and is an
IETF standards track protocol.

Regarding implementations, there are more issues.  The version of ssh in
potato is an older version of OpenSSH that supports only protocol
version 1.  There is also the 'ssh-nonfree' package.  It also only
implements protocol version 1.  Personally, I think these names are
misleading.  We have essentially renamed OpenSSH to ssh in Debian.

In woody we have OpenSSH 2.5.1.  It implements SSH protocols 1 and 2.
The same holds true for OpenSSH 3.whatever that's in sid right now.
Presumable OpenSSH 3.x is better, or else it wouldn't have been
released.  However, it's also newer and not as well tested (that's part
of why it doesn't exist in woody yet).  So there may be issues with it.

   Why would I want one as apposed to the other?

You want to use SSH *protocol* version 2.  I don't know that version 1
has actually been cracked, but the potential is there; there are proven
cryptographic weaknesses in the protocol.

OpenSSH 2.x and 3.x are capable of using version 1 of the protocol,
which may be necessary if you need to interoperate with an
implementation that only supports protocol version 1.

noah

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Re: Difference between ssh1 ssh2 ssh3 3.0.2

2002-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:01:26 -0500 Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 03:46:29AM -0800, Dean Roman wrote:
[snip]
 In woody we have OpenSSH 2.5.1.  It implements SSH protocols 1 and 2.
 The same holds true for OpenSSH 3.whatever that's in sid right now.
 Presumable OpenSSH 3.x is better, or else it wouldn't have been
 released.  However, it's also newer and not as well tested (that's part
 of why it doesn't exist in woody yet).  So there may be issues with it.

OpenSSH 3.0.2p1-4 is in woody.
http://packages.debian.org/testing/non-us/ssh.html

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SSH1 - SSH2 Connectivity

2001-04-18 Thread dansan
Hello all,

I have succesfully installed the debian package for ssh2 (and sshd2)
and it works marvellously.  The only problem I'm having is that I'm
supposed to connect to some machines that are running sshd1 and I get
an Illegal protocol version error... How can I work around this
problem?

Any help is more than welcomed!
Thanks.

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Re: SSH1 - SSH2 Connectivity

2001-04-18 Thread debuser
First install a ssh1 package (I think the ssh package is it), then do
the following (from /usr/share/doc/ssh2/SSH2.QUICKSTART.gz):


Then add the following 2 lines to ssh2_config placed at the same directory
of sshd2_config. With this configuration, ssh2 client will invoke ssh1
client when contacting SSH1 server.

Ssh1Compatibility   yes

Ssh1Path/usr/local/bin/ssh1

Replace /usr/local/bin with the directory where you installed ssh1
client. Consult the manual pages of sshd and ssh for other
configurations.


Gerry

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, dansan wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I have succesfully installed the debian package for ssh2 (and sshd2)
 and it works marvellously.  The only problem I'm having is that I'm
 supposed to connect to some machines that are running sshd1 and I get
 an Illegal protocol version error... How can I work around this
 problem?
 
 Any help is more than welcomed!
 Thanks.
 
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ssh1-ssh2

2000-06-26 Thread Geza GYORGYI
In potato I would like to have ssh2 with ssh1 compatibility.   I
installed ssh-nonfree for ssh1, also installed ssh2, and set in
/etc/ssh2_config the option Ssh1AgentCompatibility to
traditional.Both daemons were fired up by the installer, and
they are now running simultaneously.  Is this right?

The situation now is that two potato PC-s having both ssh1 and 2
refuse to link up by ssh2, the error msg being Incorrect protocol
version   However, they accept ssh1 connection from each
other.   If anyone has an idea how to revive ssh2, please let me
know.

Geza Gyorgyi
Eotvos University, Budapest, Pf. 32, 1518 HUNGARY
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RE: ssh1-ssh2

2000-06-26 Thread Jason Holland
Better yet, install openssh.  it has both sshv1 and sshv2 support.  

http://www.openssh.com

Jason

 
 In potato I would like to have ssh2 with ssh1 compatibility.   I
 installed ssh-nonfree for ssh1, also installed ssh2, and set in
 /etc/ssh2_config the option Ssh1AgentCompatibility to
 traditional.Both daemons were fired up by the installer, and
 they are now running simultaneously.  Is this right?
 
 The situation now is that two potato PC-s having both ssh1 and 2
 refuse to link up by ssh2, the error msg being Incorrect protocol
 version   However, they accept ssh1 connection from each
 other.   If anyone has an idea how to revive ssh2, please let me
 know.
 
 Geza Gyorgyi
 Eotvos University, Budapest, Pf. 32, 1518 HUNGARY
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Re: ssh1-ssh2

2000-06-26 Thread dyer
Geza GYORGYI wrote:

 In potato I would like to have ssh2 with ssh1 compatibility.   I
 installed ssh-nonfree for ssh1, also installed ssh2, and set in
 /etc/ssh2_config the option Ssh1AgentCompatibility to
 traditional.Both daemons were fired up by the installer, and
 they are now running simultaneously.  Is this right?

 The situation now is that two potato PC-s having both ssh1 and 2
 refuse to link up by ssh2, the error msg being Incorrect protocol
 version   However, they accept ssh1 connection from each
 other.   If anyone has an idea how to revive ssh2, please let me
 know.


I believe that ssh2 is running on port  instead of the normal port 22. 
(Cant have
both using same port!) If you try to connect with the ssh2 client using the 
default
port (22) then the sshd1 is going to answer and you get a protocol error.

Try specifying the port.
#ssh -p  host

dyer



RE: ssh1-ssh2

2000-06-26 Thread Dr. Orange

You shouldn't have sshd1 and 2 start up. Rather, you want sshd2 to start
up, and call on sshd1 if someone tries to conect through this
method. to do it:

- clear the init.d (and or cron) scripts that start up sshd1
- open /etc/ssh2/sshd2_config
- set Port to 22
- set ssh1Compatibility and sshd1 path on, as
follow:
Ssh1Compatibility yes
Sshd1Path   /usr/sbin/sshd  
#or wherever your sshd1 daemon is. 

After that you should be able to connect with both ssh1 and ssh2. 

-S-