Re: startup console

2013-12-20 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 09:33:01 +0700
Diogene Laerce  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 12/20/2013 03:44 AM, André Nunes Batista wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:11 +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Does anybody can tell me where I need to go to configure the console
> >> I get before X starts ?
> >>
> >> For now, I get xterm and a minimal env setup, I'd like to configure those ?
> >> I already tried and choose terminator :
> >>
> >> sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
> >>
> >> But it didn't change anything, I still fall on xterm and it doesn't seem to
> >> take my bashrc.
> >>
> >>  
> > You get xterm before X starts? Go on...
> >
> 
> Sorry but I don't understand your answer : I want to configure and use
> the console when X isn't started.
> 

I'm not sure what is your problem, but I guess you don't want to start
X automatically. Do you use a display manager (GDM, KDM...)? Take a
look at your startup sequence and disable relevant service.

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Re: startup console

2013-12-20 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 09:33:01AM +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/20/2013 03:44 AM, André Nunes Batista wrote:
> >On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:11 +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Does anybody can tell me where I need to go to configure the console
> >>I get before X starts ?
> >>
> >>For now, I get xterm and a minimal env setup, I'd like to configure those ?
> >>I already tried and choose terminator :
> >>
> >>sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
> >>
> >>But it didn't change anything, I still fall on xterm and it doesn't seem to
> >>take my bashrc.
> >>
> >You get xterm before X starts? Go on...
> 
> Sorry but I don't understand your answer : I want to configure and use
> the console when X isn't started.

If X isn't started, then you can't use Xterm (well, you might be able to
using a different graphical server such as wayland or the framebuffer,
but they'd still need some sort of X translation layer).

Before X starts you get the Linux Console. This is typically displayed
on the VGA/VESA console (text mode) or using a framebuffer for
higher-resolution text. The Linux Console is where the boot progress
messages appear and can be accessed by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 to
Ctrl+Alt+F6 when X is running.

Alternatively, if X is started without a desktop environment, there is
usually a minimal xinit (X initialisation file) which starts Xterm and
perhaps TWM as a window manager - though I don't believe debian does
that these days, just xterm.

So, in the first case (using Xterm without X), then configure it as
normal. In the second case, "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" will allow
you to choose fonts, but you may need to adjust your boot parameters to
change the resolution. In the third case, you need to edit your
~/.Xresources file - try
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_resources#Xterm_resources as a
start.



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Re: startup console

2013-12-20 Thread Linux-Fan
On 12/20/2013 03:33 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> On 12/20/2013 03:44 AM, André Nunes Batista wrote:
>> You get xterm before X starts? Go on...
> Sorry but I don't understand your answer : I want to configure and use
> the console when X isn't started.

The console you see before X is started is /not/ XTerm but a virtual
terminal provided by the Linux kernel. Try

 # dpkg-reconfigure console-setup

to configure it.

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Re: startup console

2013-12-19 Thread Diogene Laerce



On 12/20/2013 03:44 AM, André Nunes Batista wrote:

On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:11 +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote:
   

Hi,

Does anybody can tell me where I need to go to configure the console
I get before X starts ?

For now, I get xterm and a minimal env setup, I'd like to configure those ?
I already tried and choose terminator :

sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator

But it didn't change anything, I still fall on xterm and it doesn't seem to
take my bashrc.

 

You get xterm before X starts? Go on...
   


Sorry but I don't understand your answer : I want to configure and use
the console when X isn't started.

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Re: startup console

2013-12-19 Thread Diogene Laerce



I'm not sure what you want to change, but I use
dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
and editing of
/etc/default/console-setup
   


Thanks for your answer but this actually configure how the
console present itself. I'd like to choose wether xterm or not is used
as default console when X isn't started.

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Re: startup console

2013-12-19 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 15:11 +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Does anybody can tell me where I need to go to configure the console
> I get before X starts ?
> 
> For now, I get xterm and a minimal env setup, I'd like to configure those ?
> I already tried and choose terminator :
> 
> sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
> 
> But it didn't change anything, I still fall on xterm and it doesn't seem to
> take my bashrc.
> 

You get xterm before X starts? Go on...

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Re: startup console

2013-12-19 Thread BubuXP
I'm not sure what you want to change, but I use
dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
and editing of
/etc/default/console-setup


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startup console

2013-12-19 Thread Diogene Laerce

Hi,

Does anybody can tell me where I need to go to configure the console
I get before X starts ?

For now, I get xterm and a minimal env setup, I'd like to configure those ?
I already tried and choose terminator :

sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator

But it didn't change anything, I still fall on xterm and it doesn't seem to
take my bashrc.

Thanks

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“Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.”   

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