Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 03 May 2024 12:11:22 +0100
"mick.crane"  wrote:

Hello mick.crane,

>Eeeek "725 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see 
>them"

Quite a few here, too.  Although not as many as you had;
46 packages removed
46 packages installed (t64 versions of the packages removed)
309 packages upgraded

However..

I have noticed that GTK apps, after 'waking up' computer when screen is
powered off, don't behave nicely(1).  I use KDE Plasma for DE, in X.

I'm playing with power saving settings (i.e. turning them off) to work
around the issue (restarting each app does the necessary if that fails),
and will see if things improve over the next few days.  Lots of kde & qt
stuff has been upgraded and things may be a little 'off' on my system.

Oh, I did reboot because of the kernel and kde/qt updates.

(1)  Buttons don't respond to mouseover events, and the window displays
contents from other apps on different desktops.

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Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread songbird
mick.crane wrote:
...
> Eeeek "725 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see 
> them"

  that was about where i was at as i'd been holding firefox
from unstable due to it wanting to remove a lot of Mate
packages without replacing them.

  however last night, like you, i first updated to the newest
kernel and headers and then picked groups of packages that
worked to do it in smaller chunks.  so i finally ended up with
Mate packages that were being replaced but not leaving me 
without a working desktop.

  the other reason for holding off so long was that i didn't
have enough of a block of time just in case something went 
wrong, but last night i did.  i needed to download nearly 1G
of packages and my line isnt super fast so that took some
time just waiting for chunks to come down the pipe.


> It seemed to be that "apt upgrade" installed a few of them, there was a 
> message something wouldn't be installed because there were no headers so 
> after getting the linux-headers for the kernel and rebooting apt 
> installed the rest.
> mick

  this morning so far all has been well and basically it
all is looking as it should.

  my normal morning routing is to update and upgrade if
there is anything waiting, and today is the first time i'm
back to "normal" routine in some weeks so it is nice to
have a clear update list again.  :)


  songbird



Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread mick.crane

On 2024-05-03 06:11, songbird wrote:

songbird wrote:
...

  the on-going time_t transitions may be causing some packages
to be removed for a while as dependencies get adjusted.

  i've currently not been doing full upgrades because there are
many Mate packages that would be removed.


  i decided to see what i could get upgraded tonight and
have done it in layers.

  mainly i wanted to make sure that anything removed was
being replaced and that my desktop would still be usable
and that seems to have happened.

  so far it seems to have gone well but i'm on the last 400
packages (it takes me a bit to download since i'm not on a
super-fast connection).  with how things have gone so far i
don't expect any hiccups.

  i  Debian and testing aka trixie.  :)

  thanks to all in the Debian community who have gotten this
done.



Eeeek "725 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see 
them"
It seemed to be that "apt upgrade" installed a few of them, there was a 
message something wouldn't be installed because there were no headers so 
after getting the linux-headers for the kernel and rebooting apt 
installed the rest.

mick



Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread Erwan David

Le 03/05/2024 à 07:11, songbird a écrit :

songbird wrote:
...

   the on-going time_t transitions may be causing some packages
to be removed for a while as dependencies get adjusted.

   i've currently not been doing full upgrades because there are
many Mate packages that would be removed.

   i decided to see what i could get upgraded tonight and
have done it in layers.

   mainly i wanted to make sure that anything removed was
being replaced and that my desktop would still be usable
and that seems to have happened.

   so far it seems to have gone well but i'm on the last 400
packages (it takes me a bit to download since i'm not on a
super-fast connection).  with how things have gone so far i
don't expect any hiccups.

   i  Debian and testing aka trixie.  :)

   thanks to all in the Debian community who have gotten this
done.


   songbird




Doing regular upgrades, checking what is removed, what is installed, 
waiting when situation is complex leads me to a perfectly working 
trixie. That's a good work from the team doing the transition.


As always in testing, one must be careful (and I woul stringly advise 
against auto-upgrades...), but when a little attention and sometimes 
patience, it works.



--
Erwan David



Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 3 May 2024 01:11:31 -0400
songbird  wrote:

Hello songbird,

>  mainly i wanted to make sure that anything removed was
>being replaced and that my desktop would still be usable
>and that seems to have happened.

This has been my experience, too.

I will also add my thanks to the many, many, people that make this
possible;

Thank you, one and all.

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Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread songbird
songbird wrote:
...
>   thanks to all in the Debian community who have gotten this
> done.

  all looks ok.  :)


  songbird



time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-02 Thread songbird
songbird wrote:
...
>   the on-going time_t transitions may be causing some packages
> to be removed for a while as dependencies get adjusted.
>
>   i've currently not been doing full upgrades because there are
> many Mate packages that would be removed.

  i decided to see what i could get upgraded tonight and
have done it in layers.

  mainly i wanted to make sure that anything removed was
being replaced and that my desktop would still be usable
and that seems to have happened.

  so far it seems to have gone well but i'm on the last 400
packages (it takes me a bit to download since i'm not on a
super-fast connection).  with how things have gone so far i
don't expect any hiccups.

  i  Debian and testing aka trixie.  :)

  thanks to all in the Debian community who have gotten this
done.


  songbird