Re: tp_smapi config

2008-12-13 Thread tyler
Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il writes:

 On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:23:35 -0400
 tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:

 Winfried Tilanus winfr...@tilanus.com writes:
 
  Install the tp_smapi modules. See http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
  for more information.
 
 oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for
 my kernel, and according to the documentation on thinkwiki, I can set
 the start and stop thresholds with this:
 
 echo 40  /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/start_charge_thresh 
 echo 70  /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/stop_charge_thresh 
 
 Except that there is no /sys/devices/platform/smapi directory on my
 system, and I cannot create the directory with mkdir. I searched my
 entire system for smapi directories, BAT0 directories, or files names
 {start,stop}_charge_thresh, but none exist. I tried rebooting, in case
 there was some mystic kernel thing going on, but that didn't help. I
 tried modprobe -l, which confirmed that the smapi modules were loaded:
 

 do lsmod to make sure that they are loaded


lsmod | grep smapi 

produces nothing, so they aren't loaded. How do I load them? I'm not
using a custom kernel, so the instructions on ThinkWiki lead me to
believe that all I needed to do was

aptitude install tp-smapi-modules-`uname -r`

I guess there's more to it?

Thanks,

Tyler


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Re: tp_smapi config

2008-12-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:02:47 -0400
tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:

 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il writes:
 
  On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:23:35 -0400
  tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
 
  Winfried Tilanus winfr...@tilanus.com writes:
  
   Install the tp_smapi modules. See http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
   for more information.
  
  oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for
  my kernel, and according to the documentation on thinkwiki, I can set
  the start and stop thresholds with this:
  
  echo 40  /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/start_charge_thresh 
  echo 70  /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/stop_charge_thresh 
  
  Except that there is no /sys/devices/platform/smapi directory on my
  system, and I cannot create the directory with mkdir. I searched my
  entire system for smapi directories, BAT0 directories, or files names
  {start,stop}_charge_thresh, but none exist. I tried rebooting, in case
  there was some mystic kernel thing going on, but that didn't help. I
  tried modprobe -l, which confirmed that the smapi modules were loaded:
  
 
  do lsmod to make sure that they are loaded
 
 
 lsmod | grep smapi 
 

modprobe tp_smapi
and if you want it to load automatically at startup you will want to do as root
echo tp_smapi  /etc/modules

 produces nothing, so they aren't loaded. How do I load them? I'm not
 using a custom kernel, so the instructions on ThinkWiki lead me to
 believe that all I needed to do was
 
 aptitude install tp-smapi-modules-`uname -r`
 
 I guess there's more to it?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tyler
 
 


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Re: tp_smapi config

2008-12-13 Thread tyler
Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il writes:

 On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:02:47 -0400
 tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
  
  oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for
  my kernel, 

 modprobe tp_smapi

 and if you want it to load automatically at startup you will want to
 do as root 
 echo tp_smapi  /etc/modules


Thanks!

Is this a documentation bug, or is it something that we should
reasonably assume a new user of tp-smapi should know? Or maybe there's
no bug, just something I misunderstood in the tp-smapi docs at
think-wiki? Usually debian packages install themselves in such a way
that they start working without further tweaking.

Cheers,

Tyler 

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Re: tp_smapi config

2008-12-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:27:55 -0400
tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:

 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il writes:
 
  On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:02:47 -0400
  tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
   
   oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for
   my kernel, 
 
  modprobe tp_smapi
 
  and if you want it to load automatically at startup you will want to
  do as root 
  echo tp_smapi  /etc/modules
 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Is this a documentation bug, or is it something that we should
 reasonably assume a new user of tp-smapi should know? Or maybe there's
 no bug, just something I misunderstood in the tp-smapi docs at
 think-wiki? Usually debian packages install themselves in such a way
 that they start working without further tweaking.
 

It's an issue with kernel modules. They need to be loaded to work and I guess
that it is assumed that you know that if you use package that install kernel
modules.

I'm guessing that it's the debian policy to force module loading on you, plus
there is not standard way AFAIK at the moment to handle package customized
module loading in /etc/modules

Most hardware related modules load automatically when the hardware is detected,
this doesn't happen with tp_smapi, I don't know if it can be made to work with
some alias entry in /etc/modprobe.d/ as I don't know if and how this hardware
is actually detected.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Tyler 
 


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tp_smapi config [Was OT: laptop recomendations]

2008-12-12 Thread tyler
Winfried Tilanus winfr...@tilanus.com writes:

 Install the tp_smapi modules. See http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
 for more information.

oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for
my kernel, and according to the documentation on thinkwiki, I can set
the start and stop thresholds with this:

echo 40  /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/start_charge_thresh 
echo 70  /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/stop_charge_thresh 

Except that there is no /sys/devices/platform/smapi directory on my
system, and I cannot create the directory with mkdir. I searched my
entire system for smapi directories, BAT0 directories, or files names
{start,stop}_charge_thresh, but none exist. I tried rebooting, in case
there was some mystic kernel thing going on, but that didn't help. I
tried modprobe -l, which confirmed that the smapi modules were loaded:

  /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/extra/tp-smapi/thinkpad_ec.ko
  /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/extra/tp-smapi/tp_smapi.ko

I'm a little over my head - What do I need to do to get this set up?

Thanks,

Tyler



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Re: tp_smapi config [Was OT: laptop recomendations]

2008-12-12 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:23:35 -0400
tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:

 Winfried Tilanus winfr...@tilanus.com writes:
 
  Install the tp_smapi modules. See http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi
  for more information.
 
 oops. I'm missing something. I just installed the tp-smapi packages for
 my kernel, and according to the documentation on thinkwiki, I can set
 the start and stop thresholds with this:
 
 echo 40  /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/start_charge_thresh 
 echo 70  /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/stop_charge_thresh 
 
 Except that there is no /sys/devices/platform/smapi directory on my
 system, and I cannot create the directory with mkdir. I searched my
 entire system for smapi directories, BAT0 directories, or files names
 {start,stop}_charge_thresh, but none exist. I tried rebooting, in case
 there was some mystic kernel thing going on, but that didn't help. I
 tried modprobe -l, which confirmed that the smapi modules were loaded:
 

do lsmod to make sure that they are loaded

   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/extra/tp-smapi/thinkpad_ec.ko
   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/extra/tp-smapi/tp_smapi.ko
 
 I'm a little over my head - What do I need to do to get this set up?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tyler
 
 
 


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