Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-11-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Rogério Brito wrote:
 On Oct 26 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
  I see it on mounts caused by automount.  I don't see it on mounts
  caused by mount.  So, we have one possible culprit.
 
 I see it with manual mounting of removable media (e.g., CDs).

Hmm... come to think of it, that's what I use automout for. It could be
removable media, then.

Anyway, I can't reproduce it anymore, since 8 days ago:
daemon.log.0:Oct 18 00:47:44 khazad-dum udevd[14729]: get_netlink_msg: no
ACTION in payload found, skip event 'umount'

It was not the kernel upgrade, that happened on Oct 11 (previously I was
running stock 2.6.13.3 and warnings did show).  It was not an udev upgrade
on that day either, according to aptitude logs. 

Log shows that I did an init 1 approximately at that time, so it could have
been a clean restart of automount or udev (I often kill udevd when I go to
single-user mode).  If it was a restart of udevd that fixed it, then the
upgrade from 0.070-4 to 0.070-5 could be of significance.  There are no
automount upgrades in the logs.

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-26 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 26 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in
payload found, skip event 'mount' 
 
 Kernel brokeness? Is some other user space application sending
 bogus events to the netlink socket (is this even possible?)?

I'm not the original poster, but I also see these messages a lot. It may
be kernel brokenness, but then, this has existed for quite some time in
the latest 2.6.14-rc releases (at least).

 Which kernel version are you using?

Right now, I'm using 2.6.14-rc5, but I saw the problem with, at least,
2.6.14-rc4. That is what I remember.

 I have never seen anything like this, nor I have ever heard of mount
 hotplug events. But if udev gets broken messages there is nothing it can
 do about it.

I have udev installed here (I'm running testing) and I don't know if it
matters, but I also have dbus running (which was pulled in because I
need to have gnumeric installed here).

I see the messages like those above whenever I mount manually, say, a
CD.  I use only a window manager (no Desktop Environment and lots of its
daemons running on my back).


Thanks for any comments, Rogério.

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-26 Thread Rogério Brito
On Oct 26 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 I see it on mounts caused by automount.  I don't see it on mounts
 caused by mount.  So, we have one possible culprit.

I see it with manual mounting of removable media (e.g., CDs).

No automount or autofs here.


Hope this helps as a data point, Rogério Brito.

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh yeah, would you say the same about the following warnings?
 
   Oct 25 15:42:10 olgas udev[9919]: main: action, subsystem or devpath missing
Another kernel bug, but this one is known. The sid udev package has a
patch to suppress the message in this case.

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 26, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmm... come to think of it, that's what I use automout for. It could be
 removable media, then.
 
 Anyway, I can't reproduce it anymore, since 8 days ago:
 daemon.log.0:Oct 18 00:47:44 khazad-dum udevd[14729]: get_netlink_msg: no
 ACTION in payload found, skip event 'umount'
I have since learnt that these events are generated by the kernel.
Why they are broken should be investigated by the kernel team.

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 26, md wrote:

  Anyway, I can't reproduce it anymore, since 8 days ago:
  daemon.log.0:Oct 18 00:47:44 khazad-dum udevd[14729]: get_netlink_msg: no
  ACTION in payload found, skip event 'umount'
 I have since learnt that these events are generated by the kernel.
 Why they are broken should be investigated by the kernel team.
I asked the udev maintainer about this: the uevents are correct as is
because they are not hotplug events, and the error message is not shown
at the default verbosity level.

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 13:45 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On Oct 26, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hmm... come to think of it, that's what I use automout for. It could be
  removable media, then.
  
  Anyway, I can't reproduce it anymore, since 8 days ago:
  daemon.log.0:Oct 18 00:47:44 khazad-dum udevd[14729]: get_netlink_msg: no
  ACTION in payload found, skip event 'umount'
 I have since learnt that these events are generated by the kernel.
 Why they are broken should be investigated by the kernel team.

Then what could be mounting our USB pens, firewire drives, etc?

# grep udev /var/log/syslog
Oct 26 17:22:53 haggis udevd[1040]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in
payload found, skip event 'mount'
Oct 26 17:25:54 haggis udevd[1040]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in
payload found, skip event 'mount'

# df /dev/sd*
Filesystem   1K-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on
[snip]
/dev/sdd163586   0 63586   0% /media/usbdisk
/dev/sde1   487152   8487144   1% /media/UDISK 20X


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Re: Bug#335814: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-26 Thread Horms
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 04:03:01AM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote:
 On Oct 26 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
  On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in
 payload found, skip event 'mount' 
  
  Kernel brokeness? Is some other user space application sending
  bogus events to the netlink socket (is this even possible?)?
 
 I'm not the original poster, but I also see these messages a lot. It may
 be kernel brokenness, but then, this has existed for quite some time in
 the latest 2.6.14-rc releases (at least).
 
  Which kernel version are you using?
 
 Right now, I'm using 2.6.14-rc5, but I saw the problem with, at least,
 2.6.14-rc4. That is what I remember.

If the problem has gone away in 2.6.14-rc5 that is very valuable
information, can you keep an eye on it?

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know what this message is all about? This began to appear after a
 recent upgrade whenever I mount a USB drive.
 
   Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload 
 found, skip event 'mount'

Kernel brokeness? Is some other user space application sending
bogus events to the netlink socket (is this even possible?)?
Which kernel version are you using?
I have never seen anything like this, nor I have ever heard of mount
hotplug events. But if udev gets broken messages there is nothing it can
do about it.

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udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-25 Thread Bill Wohler
Anyone know what this message is all about? This began to appear after a
recent upgrade whenever I mount a USB drive.

  Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload 
found, skip event 'mount'

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If this is bug, in which package would you recommend that I report it?
linux-2.6 would be a good start, unless the HAL maintainer has better
ideas about this.

 Let me know if there is anything more I can do to help with debugging.
You should really use some netlink listener to check the actual event
content, but I do not have one handy right now.

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-25 Thread Bill Wohler
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Anyone know what this message is all about? This began to appear after a
  recent upgrade whenever I mount a USB drive.
  
Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload 
  found, skip event 'mount'
 
 Kernel brokeness? Is some other user space application sending
 bogus events to the netlink socket (is this even possible?)?
 Which kernel version are you using?
 I have never seen anything like this, nor I have ever heard of mount
 hotplug events. But if udev gets broken messages there is nothing it can
 do about it.

I'm running etch (with a handful of sid), the linux-image-2.6.12-1-686
package, version 2.6.12-10. Unfortunately, I don't grok what you're
saying above. Here is more context. Mount is 2.12p-8.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:518]$ mount /media/usb0
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:520]$ tail -4 $syslog
  Oct 25 17:22:51 olgas kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
  Oct 25 17:22:51 olgas kernel: EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
  Oct 25 17:22:51 olgas kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data 
mode.
  Oct 25 17:22:51 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload 
found, skip event 'mount'

If this is bug, in which package would you recommend that I report it?
Let me know if there is anything more I can do to help with debugging.
  
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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-25 Thread Bill Wohler
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If this is bug, in which package would you recommend that I report it?
 linux-2.6 would be a good start, unless the HAL maintainer has better
 ideas about this.

Thanks, will do.

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-25 Thread Bill Wohler
Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If this is bug, in which package would you recommend that I report it?
 linux-2.6 would be a good start, unless the HAL maintainer has better
 ideas about this.

Oh yeah, would you say the same about the following warnings?

  Oct 25 15:42:10 olgas udev[9919]: main: action, subsystem or devpath missing
  Oct 25 15:42:10 olgas udev[9962]: main: action, subsystem or devpath missing

I started getting these at the same time as the other message (with a
recent 2.6.12 maintainer upgrade). These messages appear when I pop in a
USB wireless mouse/keyboard unit.

Or would this be a bone fide udev bug?

Interestingly, these messages mention udev while the others mention
udevd. What does that mean?

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anyone know what this message is all about? This began to appear after a
  recent upgrade whenever I mount a USB drive.
  
Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload 
  found, skip event 'mount'
 
 Kernel brokeness? Is some other user space application sending

I also get it, I will try to help tracking it down.

Kernel Debian 2.6.13-1 (from experimental, which is 2.6.13.3) + 2.6.3.4 diff.

 I have never seen anything like this, nor I have ever heard of mount
 hotplug events. But if udev gets broken messages there is nothing it can
 do about it.

I see it on mounts caused by automount.  I don't see it on mounts caused by
mount.  So, we have one possible culprit.

Bill, are you also using automount?

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Re: udevd: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in payload found

2005-10-25 Thread Bill Wohler
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
  On Oct 26, Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Anyone know what this message is all about? This began to appear after a
   recent upgrade whenever I mount a USB drive.
   
 Oct 25 16:34:21 olgas udevd[1109]: get_netlink_msg: no ACTION in 
   payload found, skip event 'mount'
  
  Kernel brokeness? Is some other user space application sending
 
 I also get it, I will try to help tracking it down.
 
 Kernel Debian 2.6.13-1 (from experimental, which is 2.6.13.3) + 2.6.3.4 diff.

Thanks. Evidently, this was not fixed in 2.6.13.

  I have never seen anything like this, nor I have ever heard of mount
  hotplug events. But if udev gets broken messages there is nothing it can
  do about it.
 
 I see it on mounts caused by automount.  I don't see it on mounts caused by
 mount.  So, we have one possible culprit.
 
 Bill, are you also using automount?

Nope. I'm not using automount for any mounts on this particular laptop.
I'm using entries from /etc/fstab, such as this:

  /dev/sda1   /media/usb0 autouser,noauto 0   0

p.s. I've added a bug report and cc'd [EMAIL PROTECTED] to this
message in case this discussion helps the linux-image-2.6.12-1-686
package maintainer

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