Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
Stephan Seitz wrote on 16/12/2019 20:50: > On Mo, Dez 16, 2019 at 08:32:01 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> Does anybody else see such a /pulse directory? > > Yes, here as well (two testing systems). > > Shade and sweet water! > > Stephan > Thanks for confirming this. Are you using sysv-init or systemd-init? Regards, Jörg.
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 16/12/2019 20:32: > Greg Wooledge wrote on 16/12/2019 17:29: >> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:04:34AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >>> $ dpkg -S /pulse >>> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse >>> >>> fails to give any clue. >>> The directory is generated at boot-time. But I wasn't able to find any hint >>> in >>> systemd or udev conf-files. >> >> Well, the first thing I would try would be "grep -r /pulse /etc". >> And if that fails, "grep -r /pulse /lib/systemd". > > Did that, also > > $ grep -rI pulse /lib/udev > > to no avail. >> >> If *those* both fail... well, I might be crazy enough to try removing >> the offending directory, doing "chattr +i /", then rebooting, and seeing >> who complains when they can't create the /pulse directory. Only on a >> system where I have local hardware access, of course -- not a remote. >> >> Do not forget to remove the immutable bit after your test is complete. >> >> And as a wise reader already said, it's probably pulseaudio. Meaning, >> you might be able to test without rebooting, by stopping pulseaudio, >> removing the directory, and starting pulseaudio, to see if it gets >> recreated. > > The /pulse directory is created at boot-time. The pulseaudio process is > started > at login on this system. Also, pulseaudio continues to work after removal of > /pulse which is always an empty directory. It has uid 0 and gid 0 an is not > readable for group or others. > The only relevant script at boot-time on my system seems to be from alsa-utils. But at the moment I'm lost how this interacts with pulseaudio. At the same time the /pulse directory is created, there is created an also empty /run/alsa/runtime/pulse directory. Any idea, anybody? > Does anybody else see such a /pulse directory? Regards, Jörg.
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
On 12/14/19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 14 dec 19, 10:04:34, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: >> > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> >> >> >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This >> >> is a bug >> >> in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. >> > >> > https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages >> > >> That doesn't help, the same way as >> >> $ dpkg -S /pulse >> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse >> >> fails to give any clue. >> The directory is generated at boot-time. But I wasn't able to find any >> hint in >> systemd or udev conf-files. > > You could try to use inotify to find out what is creating it. > > My money is on pulseaudio ;) Something about pulseaudio, maybe a "pa" in a file name somehow, is what coincidentally hit my radar, too... just a few seconds ago. Got forced offline another 3 weeks with more hardware failure. Am trying to get ANOTHER dialup modem running directly via Debian. That meant poking around in /etc where there sits, of all things, a /pulse directory in *my* setup.. I THINK... I saw one or more files ending in... maybe DOTca? In case that helps.. What I was already thinking when I read this thread hours ago is that it sounds like a misfire in where the /pulse directory is setting up its home base. Mine appears basically permanent. Maybe this other one is a cranky sort that keeps re-establishing itself the way I've seen some packages do with files if they're missing at startup. BUT... my experience with THOSE files reappearing as needed (if deleted intentionally or otherwise) is that THOSE files are usually something found under /home/user buried within all those dot directories accessed via CTRL+H. Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed... annnd... a dial-up modem that is SO CLOSE to working directly through Debian. SO CLOSE. *
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
On Mo, Dez 16, 2019 at 08:32:01 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: Does anybody else see such a /pulse directory? Yes, here as well (two testing systems). Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- |If your life was a horse, you'd have to shoot it.|
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
Greg Wooledge wrote on 16/12/2019 17:29: > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:04:34AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> $ dpkg -S /pulse >> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse >> >> fails to give any clue. >> The directory is generated at boot-time. But I wasn't able to find any hint >> in >> systemd or udev conf-files. > > Well, the first thing I would try would be "grep -r /pulse /etc". > And if that fails, "grep -r /pulse /lib/systemd". Did that, also $ grep -rI pulse /lib/udev to no avail. > > If *those* both fail... well, I might be crazy enough to try removing > the offending directory, doing "chattr +i /", then rebooting, and seeing > who complains when they can't create the /pulse directory. Only on a > system where I have local hardware access, of course -- not a remote. > > Do not forget to remove the immutable bit after your test is complete. > > And as a wise reader already said, it's probably pulseaudio. Meaning, > you might be able to test without rebooting, by stopping pulseaudio, > removing the directory, and starting pulseaudio, to see if it gets > recreated. The /pulse directory is created at boot-time. The pulseaudio process is started at login on this system. Also, pulseaudio continues to work after removal of /pulse which is always an empty directory. It has uid 0 and gid 0 an is not readable for group or others. Does anybody else see such a /pulse directory? Regards, Jörg.
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:04:34AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > $ dpkg -S /pulse > dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse > > fails to give any clue. > The directory is generated at boot-time. But I wasn't able to find any hint in > systemd or udev conf-files. Well, the first thing I would try would be "grep -r /pulse /etc". And if that fails, "grep -r /pulse /lib/systemd". If *those* both fail... well, I might be crazy enough to try removing the offending directory, doing "chattr +i /", then rebooting, and seeing who complains when they can't create the /pulse directory. Only on a system where I have local hardware access, of course -- not a remote. Do not forget to remove the immutable bit after your test is complete. And as a wise reader already said, it's probably pulseaudio. Meaning, you might be able to test without rebooting, by stopping pulseaudio, removing the directory, and starting pulseaudio, to see if it gets recreated.
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
On Sat 14 Dec 2019 at 10:04:34 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a > >> bug > >> in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. > > > > https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > > > That doesn't help, the same way as > > $ dpkg -S /pulse > dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse > > fails to give any clue. Of course it helps and gives a clue. It points to investigating what you suggest below. > The directory is generated at boot-time. But I wasn't able to find any hint in > systemd or udev conf-files. -- Brian.
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 10:04:34, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > >> > >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a > >> bug > >> in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. > > > > https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > > > That doesn't help, the same way as > > $ dpkg -S /pulse > dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse > > fails to give any clue. > The directory is generated at boot-time. But I wasn't able to find any hint in > systemd or udev conf-files. You could try to use inotify to find out what is creating it. My money is on pulseaudio ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a >> bug >> in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. > > https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages > That doesn't help, the same way as $ dpkg -S /pulse dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /pulse fails to give any clue. The directory is generated at boot-time. But I wasn't able to find any hint in systemd or udev conf-files. Regards, Jörg.
Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Hello, > > does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a bug > in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages -- Brian.
unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?
Hello, does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a bug in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. Regards, Jörg.
