Re: up-to-date Sid, Need help with xorg.conf

2009-06-06 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,05.Jun.09, 17:03:57, Curt Howland wrote:
 Hi. Running up-to-date Sid.
 
 I bought a new monitor, and it seems somewhat limited in its screen 
 modes. The manual gives some particulars, but I can't seem to get 
 dpkg-reconfigure to give me the old interactive way of defining 
 Xwindows.

Because it's not needed anymore, especially with new monitors.

 So, I'm stuck creating my own screen/modline, and I could use a bit of 
 help.
 
 The values I want to use are 1360x768, 47.7KHz h., 60Hz v. 24/32 bits 
 of course.

Is this the native resolution of the monitor? Xorg should be able to 
detect and use it automatically.
 
 Anyone want to take a stab at it? We can work it through off-list and 
 I'll post a solution when we have it.

Try without xorg.conf. Mine has only:

Section Device
Identifier  Configured Video Device
Driver  nvidia
EndSection

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: : up-to-date Sid, Need help with xorg.conf

2009-06-06 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Please reply to the list.

Curt Howland wrote:

  There should be no need for a modeline at all. xorg should detect
 its
  available modes and select the best one automatically.

 Wouldn't that be nice? Too bad it doesn't.

What does xrandr say when you run it? It should list detected modes.


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[Solved] Re: up-to-date Sid, Need help with xorg.conf

2009-06-06 Thread Curt Howland
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So trying to make the VGA input on a Sharp TV work, we have the 
following:

Using these elements from Wayne Topa:

On Friday 05 June 2009 Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote:
 The DFP is for an LCD.

 Section Device
...
  Option  Metamodes 1680x1050, 1280x1024. 1280x1024
 EndSection

 Section Monitor
  Identifier  Generic Monitor
  Option  DPMS
  HorizSync   24-831
  VertRefresh 56-75
 EndSection

And starting with Andrew's generic xorg.conf so I'd have the right 
sections:

On Saturday 06 June 2009, Andrew M.A. Cater 
amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk was heard to say:
 Once you're sure no X is running, as root issue the command

 Xorg -configure

 This will attempt to generate an old style xorg.conf file based on
 the Xorg best guess

It was otherwise empty of details except the SiS driver definition, 
but it was good to make sure that the correct headings existed for 
everything in the new file.

So it turned out the answer was to put the screen's input h/v 
frequencies and their matching pixel MetaModes, as detailed in the 
manual one at a time, into the xorg.conf and startx until something 
worked...

Option Metamodes 1280x1024

HorizSync 64
VertRefresh 60

...is the highest resolution for which everything worked.

Sadly, the 1360x768 h.47.7 v.60 ends up putting a refresh out of 
sync error in Xorg.0.log, so the ancient SiS onboard video is living 
up to its ancientness. And not specifying the frequencies but only 
the 1360x768 launches X just fine, but puts the screen into 
an invalid frequencies error.

Oh well.

On Sat Jun  6 07:54:01 2009, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI 
edua...@kalinowski.com.br wrote:
 Please reply to the list.

I didn't want the completely obvious statement that autoconfig wasn't 
working to go to the list. But if that's the way you want it,

 There should be no need for a modeline at all. xorg should detect
 its
 available modes and select the best one automatically.

Wouldn't that be nice? Too bad it doesn't.

 What does xrandr say when you run it? It should list detected modes.

Thank you. In fact it does list the widescreen 1360x768 mode I want, 
but the frequency requirements of the screen do not allow it to be 
used.

So much for a gnarly wide-screen display. I guess I have one more good 
reason to upgrade this box to an HDMI-output machine. I'm sure this 
wouldn't have happened with hardware anywhere near new.

Thank you to everyone who chimed in with suggestions. The Command Line 
Rules where automagical stuff fails.

Curt-
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up-to-date Sid, Need help with xorg.conf

2009-06-05 Thread Curt Howland
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Hi. Running up-to-date Sid.

I bought a new monitor, and it seems somewhat limited in its screen 
modes. The manual gives some particulars, but I can't seem to get 
dpkg-reconfigure to give me the old interactive way of defining 
Xwindows.

So, I'm stuck creating my own screen/modline, and I could use a bit of 
help.

The values I want to use are 1360x768, 47.7KHz h., 60Hz v. 24/32 bits 
of course.

Anyone want to take a stab at it? We can work it through off-list and 
I'll post a solution when we have it.

Curt-

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Re: up-to-date Sid, Need help with xorg.conf

2009-06-05 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Curt Howland wrote:
 Hi. Running up-to-date Sid.

 I bought a new monitor, and it seems somewhat limited in its screen
 modes. The manual gives some particulars, but I can't seem to get
 dpkg-reconfigure to give me the old interactive way of defining
 Xwindows.

 So, I'm stuck creating my own screen/modline, and I could use a bit of
 help.

 The values I want to use are 1360x768, 47.7KHz h., 60Hz v. 24/32 bits
 of course.

 Anyone want to take a stab at it? We can work it through off-list and
 I'll post a solution when we have it.


There should be no need for a modeline at all. xorg should detect its
available modes and select the best one automatically.


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Re: up-to-date Sid, Need help with xorg.conf

2009-06-05 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:54:55PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
 Curt Howland wrote:
 
  So, I'm stuck creating my own screen/modline, and I could use a bit of
  help.
 
  The values I want to use are 1360x768, 47.7KHz h., 60Hz v. 24/32 bits
  of course.
 
  Anyone want to take a stab at it? We can work it through off-list and
  I'll post a solution when we have it.
 
 
 There should be no need for a modeline at all. xorg should detect its
 available modes and select the best one automatically.
 

If all else fails, kill any running X and kill kdm/gdm/xdm. [Use a 
command line from a VT]

Once you're sure no X is running, as root issue the command

Xorg -configure

This will attempt to generate an old style xorg.conf file based on the 
Xorg best guess

Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new

To test the server, run 'X -config /root/xorg.conf.new'

If you do that, you should end up with the classic grey screen with a 
large X shaped cursor. No window manager, but at least you know the X 
server is running fine. If that works, then copy the /root/xorg.conf.new 
file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf

If it doesn't, then at least you've got the best guess config to hand 
edit. 

I dictated this command to someone over the phone the other day
to configure a PowerMac where he'd tried and failed. I discovered the 
command myself and used it on a rack mounted server where the 
configuration was guessed correctly but the console switch wouldn't 
work with the modelines - I needed the xorg.conf config file to hand 
substitute vesa for ati to see anything at all under X :)

Hope this helps,

Andy

 
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