Re: upgrading strategy
(cmiiw, may I conclude/rewrite) [Aurelio Turco] Of all the Linux Distributions, Debian is said to have the most advanced packaging system. I regard the packaging system as very important. So, I will be installing Debian (probably 2.2r2, from CD). But before I do that, I would like to clarify what the recommended upgrade strategy is. I mean: After installing a (recent) Debian (stable) distribution, how should one keep it up to date? [Osamu Aoki] One thing to remember is be safe than sorry. Use of -u option for apt-get is a good idea to force display of upgraded package in any environment. Run with -s if you want to be absolutely sure in advance. I thought dist-upgrade takes time but resolves more dependency issues than simple upgrade. So maybe used in more occasion. Release version to release version upgrade should follow instruction on debian web site. But if you do partial upgrade to testing, you may expect some problem but it is rare. In general, If dist-upgrade causes problem, go slow is what I do. Install libc, then libdb*, then perl, then apt, ...in the sequence prior to do dist-upgrade. = If I have understood the docs correctly: 1: Do apt-get update, to update the packages list. Do this before any of 2,3,4 below. 2: Do apt-get install a_particular_package, to upgrade or newly install a particular package. Do this to upgrade or newly install individual packages as needed. [Danie Roux] It will also install and configure the packages on which it depends. 3: Do apt-get upgrade, to upgrade all packages for which a newer version is available. Do this periodically between Debian releases (be they major, minor or point/revision). 4: Do apt-get dist-upgrade, to upgrade the distribution as a whole (to the latest release). Do this as soon as a new Debian release (be it major, minor or point/revision) becomes available. [Tom Allison] note on dist-upgrade -- sometimes you have a series of dist-upgrade/dist-upgrade/upgrade/upgrade to get all the dependencies taken care of. This makes sense if you think about it -- sometimes you want things to install in a certain order. 5: Install again from scratch, to upgrade to a new release. Do this only if your installed release is too far behind the release you wish to upgrade to. [Paul 'Baloo' Johnson] I would only suggest this one if your distribution doesn't have even an old version of apt. [Danie Roux] This should not be necessary, because of Debian's great dependencies system. [Colin Watson] You should never have to install from scratch, certainly, but upgrading directly from, say, 2.0 to 2.2 isn't necessarily guaranteed to be a one-step operation. There are sometimes brief instructions in the release notes about this sort of thing if anybody found time to work them out. If all else fails, old releases are archived on archive.debian.org and its mirrors, so if you find yourself with a buzz (1.1) machine that you need to upgrade you can always pull each release in turn from there. It might take a reboot or two as you work through compatible kernels. == -- Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim - VLSM-TJT - http://rms46.vlsm.org -- Read my lips: war and reelection do not mix! --
upgrading strategy
Of all the Linux Distributions, Debian is said to have the most advanced packaging system. I regard the packaging system as very important. So, I will be installing Debian (probably 2.2r2, from CD). But before I do that, I would like to clarify what the recommended upgrade strategy is. I mean: After installing a (recent) Debian (stable) distribution, how should one keep it up to date? If I have understood the docs correctly: 1: Do apt-get update, to update the packages list. Do this before any of 2,3,4 below. 2: Do apt-get install a_particular_package, to upgrade or newly install a particular package. Do this to upgrade or newly install individual packages as needed. 3: Do apt-get upgrade, to upgrade all packages for which a newer version is available. Do this periodically between Debian releases (be they major, minor or point/revision). 4: Do apt-get dist-upgrade, to upgrade the distribution as a whole (to the latest release). Do this as soon as a new Debian release (be it major, minor or point/revision) becomes available. 5: Install again from scratch, to upgrade to a new release. Do this only if your installed release is too far behind the release you wish to upgrade to. Any confirming/correcting of the above conclusions would be much appreciated. Cheers. Aurelio.
Re: upgrading strategy
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 10:11:02AM +, Aurelio Turco wrote: If I have understood the docs correctly: 2: Do apt-get install a_particular_package, to upgrade or newly install a particular package. Do this to upgrade or newly install individual packages as needed. It will also install and configure the packages on which it depends. 5: Install again from scratch, to upgrade to a new release. Do this only if your installed release is too far behind the release you wish to upgrade to. This should not be necessary, because of Debian's great dependencies system. -- Danie Roux *shuffle* Adore Unix
Re: upgrading strategy
Aurelio Turco wrote: Of all the Linux Distributions, Debian is said to have the most advanced packaging system. I regard the packaging system as very important. So, I will be installing Debian (probably 2.2r2, from CD). But before I do that, I would like to clarify what the recommended upgrade strategy is. I mean: After installing a (recent) Debian (stable) distribution, how should one keep it up to date? If I have understood the docs correctly: 1: Do apt-get update, to update the packages list. Do this before any of 2,3,4 below. 2: Do apt-get install a_particular_package, to upgrade or newly install a particular package. Do this to upgrade or newly install individual packages as needed. 3: Do apt-get upgrade, to upgrade all packages for which a newer version is available. Do this periodically between Debian releases (be they major, minor or point/revision). 4: Do apt-get dist-upgrade, to upgrade the distribution as a whole (to the latest release). Do this as soon as a new Debian release (be it major, minor or point/revision) becomes available. 5: Install again from scratch, to upgrade to a new release. Do this only if your installed release is too far behind the release you wish to upgrade to. Any confirming/correcting of the above conclusions would be much appreciated. Cheers. Aurelio. note on dist-upgrade -- sometimes you have a series of dist-upgrade/dist-upgrade/upgrade/upgrade to get all the dependencies taken care of. This makes sense if you think about it -- sometimes you want things to install in a certain order.
Re: upgrading strategy
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 12:14:34PM +0200, Danie Roux wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 10:11:02AM +, Aurelio Turco wrote: 5: Install again from scratch, to upgrade to a new release. Do this only if your installed release is too far behind the release you wish to upgrade to. This should not be necessary, because of Debian's great dependencies system. You should never have to install from scratch, certainly, but upgrading directly from, say, 2.0 to 2.2 isn't necessarily guaranteed to be a one-step operation. There are sometimes brief instructions in the release notes about this sort of thing if anybody found time to work them out. If all else fails, old releases are archived on archive.debian.org and its mirrors, so if you find yourself with a buzz (1.1) machine that you need to upgrade you can always pull each release in turn from there. It might take a reboot or two as you work through compatible kernels. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading strategy
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Aurelio Turco wrote: 5: Install again from scratch, to upgrade to a new release. Do this only if your installed release is too far behind the release you wish to upgrade to. I would only suggest this one if your distribution doesn't have even an old version of apt. -- Baloo
Re: upgrading strategy
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 10:11:02AM +, Aurelio Turco wrote: Of all the Linux Distributions, Debian is said to have the most advanced packaging system. I regard the packaging system as very important. So, I will be installing Debian (probably 2.2r2, from CD). But before I do that, I would like to clarify what the recommended upgrade strategy is. I mean: After installing a (recent) Debian (stable) distribution, how should one keep it up to date? One thing to remrember is be safe than sorry. Use of -u option for apt-get is a good idea to force display of upgraded package in any environment. Run with -s if you want to be absolutely sure in advance. I thought dist-upgrade takes time but resolves more dependancy issues than simple upgrade. So maybe used in more occasion. Release version to release version upgrade should follow instruction on debian web site. But if you do partial upgrade to tesing, you may expect some problem but it is rare. In general, If dist-upgrade causes problem, go slow is what I do. Install libc, then libdb*, then perl, then apt, ...in the sequence prior to do dist-upgrade. Cheers :-) If I have understood the docs correctly: 1: Do apt-get update, to update the packages list. Do this before any of 2,3,4 below. 2: Do apt-get install a_particular_package, to upgrade or newly install a particular package. Do this to upgrade or newly install individual packages as needed. 3: Do apt-get upgrade, to upgrade all packages for which a newer version is available. Do this periodically between Debian releases (be they major, minor or point/revision). 4: Do apt-get dist-upgrade, to upgrade the distribution as a whole (to the latest release). Do this as soon as a new Debian release (be it major, minor or point/revision) becomes available. 5: Install again from scratch, to upgrade to a new release. Do this only if your installed release is too far behind the release you wish to upgrade to. Any confirming/correcting of the above conclusions would be much appreciated. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ + Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + My debian quick-reference, http://www.aokiconsulting.com/quick/+
