Re: Video files conversions - was - Re: watching films full screen
On Wed 09 Jul 2014 at 13:46:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 09/07/2014, B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: snip About MTS trouble, vlc doesn't claim to support it: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.php?cat=video a common troubleshooter is to convert it to AVI (or MOV, or whatever container supported by vlc) with avidemux (use 'copy', don't transcode). Do you happen to know whether such a conversion, would work to convert .qs files to .avi files, and, if so, whether that would overcome the problems that I have experienced with some .qs files, when being viewed using vlc? In a previous mail https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8MLmQ=4kSAW3QvcWfH8bMFNt2=94zfddagmf8zh8j3...@mail.gmail.com you supplied the following information: Stream 0 Type: Video Original ID: 512 Codec: MPEG-1/2 Video (mpgv) Resolution: 720x576 Frame rate: 50 I'd expect something like ffmpeg or vlc to be capable of extracting the video (and audio) from the .qs file. The video could be viewed to assess its quality. If it is poor I do not think putting it and the audio in a different container (which ffmpeg can do) would improve anything. (ffmpeg comes with ffplay, which may be worth a try). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140710121142.gk27...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: watching films full screen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 08/07/2014 20:02, Steve B a écrit : On 07/07/2014 11:08 PM, François Patte wrote: 1- I would like to configure kaffeine for a real full screen ie. without any visible xfce panels. There are only one option in the menu configuration: choosing the startup mode! I had a similar bug with XFCE and VLC causing a partial full screen on Wheezy. If VLC is maximized, i.e. takes the whole screen except XFCE bars, enabling the full screen mode (by menu item or shortcut) results in a partial full screen: VLC goes in full screen mode but XFCE bars remain visible. If VLC is not maximized, i.e. other windows are visible, enabling the full screen mode results in a real full screen, i.e. VLC contents takes really the full screen. 2- How to prevent dpms action when on fullscreen mode? xset -dpms or xset s off Of course, but I'm wondering why these applications made for watching a moovie do not turn dpms, (or screensavers or power management or...) off as soon as you ask for full screen. It seems that this feature does not exist in kaffeine and, while it exists in vlc, it does not work! - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlO8/jwACgkQdE6C2dhV2JVqlACeKHZEHPG3qw5MWVUz+oZ7nKZL 4WAAnjW4sHW+wT1rynyiLnUshx1mbba1 =fTd7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53bcfe42.1000...@mi.parisdescartes.fr
Re: watching films full screen
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:33:06 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: that this feature does not exist in kaffeine and, while it exists in vlc, it does not work! Not totally true: it works on a desktop, not on a laptop. -- If Christianity was morality, Socrates would be the Saviour. -- William Blake signature.asc Description: PGP signature
VLC limitations (was: Re: watching films full screen)
B wrote: On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:22:53 -1000 Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: That's interesting to me to hear you say this. Dealing with a variety of video formats, I find mpv (based on mplayer) to be much more tolerant of video formats. Most recently, I observed the VLC won't handle MTS format videos copied from a video camera, which mplayer/mpv plays back just fine. You can't judge a SW from one problem. From the beginning, code was taken from vlc, and from what I understood at this time, vlc devs were mad because there was no reference to they're work (except at the terms of GPL: copyleft retained in source code); there was also rants from player when code was flaky which did help to pace minds. Vlc (AFA the original way was preserved) is also strict on RFCs and standards (which are usually badly respected, even by their creators). From what I saw, vlc is also faster to troubleshoot. About MTS trouble, vlc doesn't claim to support it: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.php?cat=video a common troubleshooter is to convert it to AVI (or MOV, or whatever container supported by vlc) with avidemux (use 'copy', don't transcode). Thanks for explaining this. I had a few other experiences where VLC couldn't play media or media files (sorry to lack specifics here). What I want is a player that handles everything, and for now, mpv is working well for this. -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140709202105.GA28238@sprite
Re: watching films full screen
On 07/07/2014 11:30 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 23:08:05 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: 1- I would like to configure kaffeine for a real full screen ie. without any visible xfce panels. There are only one option in the menu configuration: choosing the startup mode! AFAIK, kaffeine has a problem with the xfce taskbar; so you wanna make it automatically hide. Full screen is either toggled manually by 'f' or in its (poor) configuration (which you could have discover by yourself if you had read the docs or even tested). 2- How to prevent dpms action when on fullscreen mode? open a terminal, and enter xset -dpms s off It should disable the screensaver/dpms until xorg restart... There's also an item in xine config, which injects Ctrl keyboard events at regular intervals, but you do not want that as it's bad when editing text... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=712573 (kaffeine still /is/ a xine frontend, right?) Duno, vlc has this setup. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53bbc76f.4040...@a1.net
Re: watching films full screen
On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:26:55 +0200 Johann Klammer klamm...@a1.net wrote: On 07/07/2014 11:30 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 23:08:05 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: 1- I would like to configure kaffeine for a real full screen ie. without any visible xfce panels. There are only one option in the menu configuration: choosing the startup mode! AFAIK, kaffeine has a problem with the xfce taskbar; so you wanna make it automatically hide. Full screen is either toggled manually by 'f' or in its (poor) configuration (which you could have discover by yourself if you had read the docs or even tested). 2- How to prevent dpms action when on fullscreen mode? [snip] In my experience, indeed vlc has the option, but it fails to work most of the time, so I suggest mplayer or a frontend like gmplayer if you like GUIs. Never had issues with it (XFCE and KDE were tested) regarding panels and/or dpms. -- Rares Aioanei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140708164837.26c42...@debianlaph.localdom.ain
Re: watching films full screen
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:48:37 +0300 Rares Aioanei debian.dev.l...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience, indeed vlc has the option, but it fails to work most of the time, Sooo, you have plenty of failures you'd like to share with us! As an every day user on multiple machines and platforms, I'm dying to here from you - especially where mplayer is better (knowing that most of its base best code was taken from vlc the day it was publish…) -- Abr'Iko: Sooo, I leave you, I'm going to see friends with family for Xmas Abr'Iko: Because I've a life, ME! * Abr'Iko disconnected * Abr'Iko connected Abr'Iko: Shit, they're gone Abr'Iko: Fuck and they even took the DOG signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: watching films full screen
On 07/07/2014 11:08 PM, François Patte wrote: 1- I would like to configure kaffeine for a real full screen ie. without any visible xfce panels. There are only one option in the menu configuration: choosing the startup mode! I had a similar bug with XFCE and VLC causing a partial full screen on Wheezy. If VLC is maximized, i.e. takes the whole screen except XFCE bars, enabling the full screen mode (by menu item or shortcut) results in a partial full screen: VLC goes in full screen mode but XFCE bars remain visible. If VLC is not maximized, i.e. other windows are visible, enabling the full screen mode results in a real full screen, i.e. VLC contents takes really the full screen. 2- How to prevent dpms action when on fullscreen mode? xset -dpms or xset s off -- Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53bc3239.8070...@gmx.com
Re: watching films full screen
On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:26:55 +0200 Johann Klammer klamm...@a1.net wrote: open a terminal, and enter xset -dpms s off For whatever reason, I've needed to put the preceding in a loop that fires every 30 minutes. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140708160345.7d46e...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
Re: watching films full screen
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 04:06:25PM +0200, B wrote: On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:48:37 +0300 Rares Aioanei debian.dev.l...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience, indeed vlc has the option, but it fails to work most of the time, Sooo, you have plenty of failures you'd like to share with us! As an every day user on multiple machines and platforms, I'm dying to here from you - especially where mplayer is better (knowing that most of its base best code was taken from vlc the day it was publish…) That's interesting to me to hear you say this. Dealing with a variety of video formats, I find mpv (based on mplayer) to be much more tolerant of video formats. Most recently, I observed the VLC won't handle MTS format videos copied from a video camera, which mplayer/mpv plays back just fine. Regards, Joel -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140708202253.GA30283@sprite
Re: watching films full screen
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:22:53 -1000 Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: That's interesting to me to hear you say this. Dealing with a variety of video formats, I find mpv (based on mplayer) to be much more tolerant of video formats. Most recently, I observed the VLC won't handle MTS format videos copied from a video camera, which mplayer/mpv plays back just fine. You can't judge a SW from one problem. From the beginning, code was taken from vlc, and from what I understood at this time, vlc devs were mad because there was no reference to they're work (except at the terms of GPL: copyleft retained in source code); there was also rants from player when code was flaky which did help to pace minds. Vlc (AFA the original way was preserved) is also strict on RFCs and standards (which are usually badly respected, even by their creators). From what I saw, vlc is also faster to troubleshoot. About MTS trouble, vlc doesn't claim to support it: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.php?cat=video a common troubleshooter is to convert it to AVI (or MOV, or whatever container supported by vlc) with avidemux (use 'copy', don't transcode). -- titix: seriously, I still don't understand. titix: you want to be a physician, right titix: but a coroner… I'm out of words. titix: this is a disgusting occupation, and you're going to autopsy poor guys that had terrible accidents reduced to slop… So why? momo: patients won't piss me off titix: …you scored a goal. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Video files conversions - was - Re: watching films full screen
On 09/07/2014, B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: snip About MTS trouble, vlc doesn't claim to support it: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.php?cat=video a common troubleshooter is to convert it to AVI (or MOV, or whatever container supported by vlc) with avidemux (use 'copy', don't transcode). Do you happen to know whether such a conversion, would work to convert .qs files to .avi files, and, if so, whether that would overcome the problems that I have experienced with some .qs files, when being viewed using vlc? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8o1ssdmkgever7vlw8o_sbvsnhxr1xb8zrp+td_cfv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Video files conversions - was - Re: watching films full screen
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 13:46:02 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: Do you happen to know whether such a conversion, would work to convert .qs files to .avi files, and, if so, whether that would overcome the problems that I have experienced with some .qs files, when being viewed using vlc? Nope, but if you send me a small .qs I could tell you in minutes. (fast! I'm going asleep in 10') -- * Overfiend whacks one of the TODO items off the list joshk whacking something else now? Overfiend in a manner of speaking :) -- in #debian-devel signature.asc Description: PGP signature
watching films full screen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I don't know how to configure apps for watching films full screen: 1- I would like to configure kaffeine for a real full screen ie. without any visible xfce panels. There are only one option in the menu configuration: choosing the startup mode! 2- How to prevent dpms action when on fullscreen mode? Thank you - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlO7DC8ACgkQdE6C2dhV2JXX+wCg0F0IfIhbAC5OUB+s2+i1gM09 uI8Anj2hE6J8H2+XWX4YP30Zwc0rCn7Y =LlnH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53bb0c35.9040...@mi.parisdescartes.fr
Re: watching films full screen
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 23:08:05 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: 1- I would like to configure kaffeine for a real full screen ie. without any visible xfce panels. There are only one option in the menu configuration: choosing the startup mode! AFAIK, kaffeine has a problem with the xfce taskbar; so you wanna make it automatically hide. Full screen is either toggled manually by 'f' or in its (poor) configuration (which you could have discover by yourself if you had read the docs or even tested). 2- How to prevent dpms action when on fullscreen mode? Duno, vlc has this setup. -- To err is human, to forgive, beyond the scope of the Operating System. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: watching films full screen
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 23:08:05 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: Hello François, 2- How to prevent dpms action when on fullscreen mode? As B suggests; Go with vlc. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Now I found you out, I don't think you're so smart Who Are You - Black Sabbath signature.asc Description: PGP signature
