Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
Hi, David: On Monday 13 December 2010 02:54:05 David Jardine wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:31:03AM +0100, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: Hi, Tom: On Friday 10 December 2010 12:04:33 Tom Furie wrote: [...] Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then Except those that depend on you yourself. Some examples: * Having something more urgent to do right now. * Being unable to take your servers off-line. * Having internal packages that need to be tested. * Having 1000 servers to take care of, so it will take a while to upgrade them all. If you stayed with testing you would run a slight risk of things going wrong. In my experience, the risk is not slight but unbeareable for production environments. Obviously, your mileage may vary. In return you would have incremental upgrades rather than the big bangs of release changes. Which it's by itself a big reason to stay with Stable (at least on my book): I can program a window in which things can break, specially when I have a whole year to produce it but I can't take the risk of things breaking at unexpected times and, please, note that a single package breaking due to a version upgrade is just one of the situations: * a new package changes the way it's configured * a package contains an unseen bug by itself (this and the previous are the obvious ones) * a package's new functionality conflicts with another installed package, either from Debian repos or not. * a package's new functionality conflicts with a subsystem in another, remote system. All of these is what makes me already testing Testing environments on some virtual machines but only upgrading production ones not only once Squeeze becomes the new Stable, but some time after that, when the waters calm down a bit, I had the time to study the release notes, testing some more about the interaction problems between systems in order to produce an upgrade calendar and find the proper time-windows to do it... without being surprised the very day Squeeze becomes Stable nor risking losing some security updates in the meanwhile. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012142059.17635.jesus.nava...@undominio.net
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
Hi, Tom: On Friday 10 December 2010 12:04:33 Tom Furie wrote: On 10/12/2010 10:04, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:05:00 Tom Furie wrote: As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. I wouldn't suggest that as it can deal to unexpected surprises. Of course, you can do as you see, but in order to track Stable, I always suggest doing it by tracking codename changes, so stay with, say, squeeze till you know wheezy has come Stable and you are ready for the upgrade, then change the codename on your sources and do it. Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then Except those that depend on you yourself. Some examples: * Having something more urgent to do right now. * Being unable to take your servers off-line. * Having internal packages that need to be tested. * Having 1000 servers to take care of, so it will take a while to upgrade them all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012130031.03545.jesus.nava...@undominio.net
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:31:03AM +0100, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: Hi, Tom: On Friday 10 December 2010 12:04:33 Tom Furie wrote: On 10/12/2010 10:04, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:05:00 Tom Furie wrote: As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. I wouldn't suggest that as it can deal to unexpected surprises. Of course, you can do as you see, but in order to track Stable, I always suggest doing it by tracking codename changes, so stay with, say, squeeze till you know wheezy has come Stable and you are ready for the upgrade, then change the codename on your sources and do it. Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then Except those that depend on you yourself. Some examples: * Having something more urgent to do right now. * Being unable to take your servers off-line. * Having internal packages that need to be tested. * Having 1000 servers to take care of, so it will take a while to upgrade them all. If you stayed with testing you would run a slight risk of things going wrong. In return you would have incremental upgrades rather than the big bangs of release changes. heers, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101213015405.gc2...@gennes.augarten
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 05:00:02PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Sorry for the noise. I read your sentence as 'squeeze becomes stable' not as 'change your apt.sources another time'. That's okay, it always gets confusing when referring to different things by different names in different contexts. Or something :) Cheers, Tom -- No one becomes depraved in a moment. -- Decimus Junius Juvenalis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101213070032.ga32...@furie.org.uk
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
Hi, Tom: On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:05:00 Tom Furie wrote: On 09/12/2010 18:46, shirish शिरीष wrote: I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. I wouldn't suggest that as it can deal to unexpected surprises. Of course, you can do as you see, but in order to track Stable, I always suggest doing it by tracking codename changes, so stay with, say, squeeze till you know wheezy has come Stable and you are ready for the upgrade, then change the codename on your sources and do it. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201012101104.01014.jesus.nava...@undominio.net
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On 10/12/2010 10:04, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:05:00 Tom Furie wrote: As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. I wouldn't suggest that as it can deal to unexpected surprises. Of course, you can do as you see, but in order to track Stable, I always suggest doing it by tracking codename changes, so stay with, say, squeeze till you know wheezy has come Stable and you are ready for the upgrade, then change the codename on your sources and do it. Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then - versus switching the codename once the new version becomes stable? Cheers, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d020941.7040...@furie.org.uk
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:04 +, Tom Furie wrote: On 10/12/2010 10:04, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: On Thursday 09 December 2010 21:05:00 Tom Furie wrote: […] you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. I wouldn't suggest that as it can deal to unexpected surprises. Of course, you can do as you see, but in order to track Stable, I always suggest doing it by tracking codename changes, so stay with, say, squeeze till you know wheezy has come Stable and you are ready for the upgrade, then change the codename on your sources and do it. Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then - versus switching the codename once the new version becomes stable? Upgrading between releases is typically not just a simple apt-get/aptitude upgrade (dist-,full-) run. The upgrade process and things you have to consider when you upgrade are documented in the release notes and it is a good idea to follow them, as there might be substantial changes to the system that have to be taken care of. The release notes for Squeeze [1] break the update down into a couple of steps: 1. Checking system status update packages, verify enough space is available, disable pinning/backports, … 2. Upgrading packages - Use apt-get and *not* aptitude for this - Minimal system upgrade - Upgrading the kernel and udev This step is very important, because you have to make sure that you upgrade the kernel *and* udev together and - *Reboot the system* - Only now can you upgrade the rest of the system with a apt-get dist-upgrade run. This a, of course, a highly simplified view of the upgrade process, but it exemplifies that you definitely don't want to plunge into the process without preparation by running aptitude full-upgrade before you had your coffee. I would therefore *strongly* recommend to use the actual names in your sources.list and upgrade once you are ready and have read the release notes. -- .''`. Wolodja Wentlandwolodja.wentl...@ed.ac.uk : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On 10-12-10 8:04 AM, Wolodja Wentland wrote: Upgrading between releases is typically not just a simple apt-get/aptitude upgrade (dist-,full-) run. The upgrade process and things you have to consider when you upgrade are documented in the release notes and it is a good idea to follow them, as there might be substantial changes to the system that have to be taken care of. When I upgraded from Etch to Lenny used those names explicitly in sources.list so the upgrade happened at a time of my choosing when I had time to fix any problems. But, I didn't read the release notes. I ended up with a broken exim configuration, and a warning message that was something like It appears that you upgraded without following the release notes, here's what you should have done. I couldn't figure out how to fix the configuration, but fortunately removing and reinstalling exim solved the problem. Next time I think I'll read the release notes. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d023f73.7070...@alcor.concordia.ca
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Furie wrote: On 09/12/2010 22:19, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. Ehm, no. If you have 'squeeze' in your /etc/apt/sources.list it will stay at 'squeeze' until you change 'squeeze' to something else, no matter if debian moves beyond wheezy or not. In order to upgrade to 'wheezy' you'd have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list again (no big deal for me). Ehm, no, what? Re-read what I typed. Once squeeze is stable, changing your sources to stable means you will track stable, whether it is lenny, squeeze, wheezy, or whatever is coming after that. Sorry for the noise. I read your sentence as 'squeeze becomes stable' not as 'change your apt.sources another time'. - -- Johannes In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. - - Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0CToIACgkQC1NzPRl9qEVhWACdF4UDv906W52qo7jAK56ndJsj mTAAn1DIktQYmwvnpQX0m5PtvW6H50HW =0EJS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d024e82.6000...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Furie wrote: Why? What's the difference between having stable in the source list and automatically upgrading when the new stable is released - all upgrade issues *should* be worked out by then - versus switching the codename once the new version becomes stable? You miss reading the upgrade instructions and release notes before performing the upgrade. YMMV, of course, but I prefer to spend 10 minutes reading the upgrade instructions to having to revert the upgrade procedure for all my machines, because I missed a simple but important point. - -- Johannes In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. - - Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0CT10ACgkQC1NzPRl9qEVHLACdGTcBz3M6XdAWhmCyRh6KAxpG 4loAn3Bty0kdFofu9VWma0cCljrOKUlc =m1v3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d024f5e.50...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de
when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
Hi all, I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. Below is the sources.list I have. # Debian Main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free # Debian Security deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free # Debian-Multimedia.org Repository deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free As of date, we have only passed beta2 few days back so I'm guessing there would be some more time before we hit stable. Also does testing freeze for a day or two or just starts pulling in stuff from unstable ? I am asking so I and many newbies would be clear to what it would entail. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim=9kqnob9hfzur8a31bzw6qkj86=-ypn2ij...@mail.gmail.com
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
At bottom :- On 10/12/2010, shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. Below is the sources.list I have. # Debian Main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free # Debian Security deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free # Debian-Multimedia.org Repository deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free As of date, we have only passed beta2 few days back so I'm guessing there would be some more time before we hit stable. Also does testing freeze for a day or two or just starts pulling in stuff from unstable ? I am asking so I and many newbies would be clear to what it would entail. Please CC me when replying. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti==iqxgvtiiy7t06n5cnfveupxmuf6iznizz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
2010/12/9 shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com Hi all, I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. Below is the sources.list I have. # Debian Main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free # Debian Security deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free # Debian-Multimedia.org Repository deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free As of date, we have only passed beta2 few days back so I'm guessing there would be some more time before we hit stable. Also does testing freeze for a day or two or just starts pulling in stuff from unstable ? I am asking so I and many newbies would be clear to what it would entail. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल Don't go from testing to stable, go from testing to squeeze, and you can do that now. Stuart
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
this is what I use deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free j On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 00:23 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: At bottom :- On 10/12/2010, shirish शिरीष shirisha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. Below is the sources.list I have. # Debian Main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free # Debian Security deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free # Debian-Multimedia.org Repository deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free As of date, we have only passed beta2 few days back so I'm guessing there would be some more time before we hit stable. Also does testing freeze for a day or two or just starts pulling in stuff from unstable ? I am asking so I and many newbies would be clear to what it would entail. Please CC me when replying. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1291921783.2387.34.ca...@squeeje.critical.pt
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, shirish शिरीष wrote: Hi all, I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. I use the codenames (lenny, squeeze, etc) in sources.list. This way it doesn't matter when they declare squeeze to be stable. If you use 'testing' then you could sail right on past squeeze if you didn't change it at just the right time. If I want the system up dist-upgrade to a later version I have to explicitely edit sources.list, which is just fine. Cheers, Rob -- Email: rob...@timetraveller.org Linux counter ID #16440 IRC: Solver (OFTC Freenode) Web: http://www.practicalsysadmin.com Contributing member of Software in the Public Interest (http://spi-inc.org/) Open Source: The revolution that silently changed the world
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 00:16:24 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. (...) As soon as it gets released. Then you should have to change your repositories to stable (or better yet, set them now to squeeze as Robert suggested, to stick in there). (...) As of date, we have only passed beta2 few days back so I'm guessing there would be some more time before we hit stable. You should be following: http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/ Also does testing freeze for a day or two or just starts pulling in stuff from unstable ? Dunno, this is also my first release time using Debian :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.09.19.50...@gmail.com
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
At bottom :- 2010/12/10 Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk: snipped As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. Right cool, thank you everybody. Cheers, Tom -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=og4ciah-f5xctkxsevpcossxshni8c76wz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 shirish शिरीष wrote: At bottom :- 2010/12/10 Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk: snipped As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. Ehm, no. If you have 'squeeze' in your /etc/apt/sources.list it will stay at 'squeeze' until you change 'squeeze' to something else, no matter if debian moves beyond wheezy or not. In order to upgrade to 'wheezy' you'd have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list again (no big deal for me). - -- Johannes In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. - - Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0BVfIACgkQC1NzPRl9qEUzGgCfe8P/YZP2oMJ4E/bhibilXu17 afIAnR6mBIZZv6ZelpcVR4vHQH66P63C =H+xe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d0155f2.7060...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On 09/12/2010 22:19, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. Ehm, no. If you have 'squeeze' in your /etc/apt/sources.list it will stay at 'squeeze' until you change 'squeeze' to something else, no matter if debian moves beyond wheezy or not. In order to upgrade to 'wheezy' you'd have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list again (no big deal for me). Ehm, no, what? Re-read what I typed. Once squeeze is stable, changing your sources to stable means you will track stable, whether it is lenny, squeeze, wheezy, or whatever is coming after that. Cheers, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d017760.4090...@furie.org.uk
Re: when does one change from testing to stable in sources.list
On 09/12/2010 18:46, shirish शिरीष wrote: I know it probably is still a long road but want to know when should one change from testing to stable so that one is living in squeeze and not go into wheezy. As others have mentioned, though you might not have seen the replies if you weren't CC'd on them, you could change from 'testing' to 'squeeze' now as they are currently the same thing. Then when squeeze goes stable you could change to 'stable', this will allow you to track the stable distribution and it will upgrade to the next stable 'wheezy', when that is released. Cheers, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d01366c.8080...@furie.org.uk
