Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-21 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Wayne Topa wrote:

 Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Wayne Topa wrote:
 Output of lspci -vvv
 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg
 NIC (rev 01)
 Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. Unknown device 0418
 Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop-
 ParErr-
 
 
 Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:
 
 Ah, you didn't find a listing for AMBIT Microsystem Corp.  That means,
 to me, that it is not compatible with madwifi.  If it was, AMBIT would
 have be listed there.
 
 Google for AMBIT Microsystem Corp and see if they have any info on that
 card.
 
 Contact Acer and ask them for information on that card.
 
 Did you Acer come with WindBloz or Linux installed?
WinBloz
 If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that
 card?
It came with a CD but before anything else we ripped out WindBloz and
installed Debian. At that time we were using a router and the ethernet card
which came with the Laptop plays nicely with Debian. In fact the only
problem we've every had with the Acer is right now with the Wifi.
Everything else worked pretty much out of the box. I think I had to
download a driver for the SIS video card from SIS but that was it.
 Does it have any software for that card installed?  Did the card 
 work in WindBloz?  If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it
 working using the ndiswrapper package.
Blush, blush. No I didn't think I would ever need it so I threw out the CD
when we ripped out WindBloz.
 
 If it came with linux installed contact Acer for information on getting
 it working.
 
 -- Snip info about AR5005G which may or may not apply --
 
 
 
 Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
 adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used
 wifi before as you can see.
 
 No problem.  I have been there too.  I spent 2 months researching Wifi
 cards and adapters before I even thought about buying one.  My first
 priority was 'does it work with Linux'.  I now have 8 pcmcia/usb Wifi
 working with Linux and one WindBloz pcmcia card on a Laptop my Son gave
 me.  Guess which ones I use.  :-)
 
 Sorry I wasn't able to help you get it running.
Au contraire, thanks a lot for helping me. Right now the pcmia or usb wifi
card seems the best option. Any recommendations on that score?
 
 Good luck!
 
 Wayne
Once again, thanks a million Wayne. You show us all what Debian is all
about.
Cheers mate,
Jonathan

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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-21 Thread Wayne Topa

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:



-- SNIP --


me.  Guess which ones I use.  :-)


Sorry I wasn't able to help you get it running.

Au contraire, thanks a lot for helping me. Right now the pcmia or usb wifi
card seems the best option. Any recommendations on that score?


I like the pcmcia cards but I also use 3 different usb adapters.  I 
prefer the pcmcia cards because they all work with madwifi.  I only 
bought cards that were madwifi compatable.


I would suggest you search for a pcmcia card that has the features/price 
you like.  Then go to the madwifi Compatibility page and make sure the 
Manuf. and that model/version is supported. If not, keep looking.


I like the Netgear WG511U 3.3v/Cardbus pcmcia cards because that work 
great.  Never had a problem with them and by following all the Tips 
given in the UserDocs on the madwifi site I had no problems using then 
in any mode. I have them working on an IBM T40  two 770 (2) laptops, a 
HP ze4420us laptop, and an old 586 desktop with a pcmcia adapter.



Best regards and good luck in your search!

Wayne


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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-20 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Wayne Topa wrote:

 Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Wayne Topa wrote:
 
 Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Wayne Topa wrote:


 My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.

 Wayne
 None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to
 David also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but
 still couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing
 (without being near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the
 correct one? Thanks again for all the help.
 Jonathan

 Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi?  Check out the
 Compatibility page on the madwifi site http://madwifi.org.  I have
 used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards.  Be sure to watch for the
 version of your card.  Many manufactures use different chips in the
 their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the
 version.  That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version
 number.

 Wayne
 Hi Wayne,
 So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
 which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be
 acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
 2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
 output to see if it's more like yours.
 ...
 aaarrrggg!
 This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
 #modprobe -v acer-wmi
 I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
 (/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
 device Back to square 1?
 Cheers,
 Jonathan
 
 Trymodprobe acer_wmi
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i acer /boot/config*
 /boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
 
 
 Wayne
Thank you Wayne,
I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
cheers,
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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-20 Thread Wayne Topa

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:




--SNIP--


Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be
acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
output to see if it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggg!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
device Back to square 1?
Cheers,
Jonathan

Trymodprobe acer_wmi

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i acer /boot/coacer_wmi
/boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m


Wayne

Thank you Wayne,
I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m


Change what??  The last line was a hint as to find out if the module
was in the kernel or not.

Just use modprobe acer_wmi, better yet do
cat acer_wmi   /etc/modules
which will add that module to the end of the /etc/modules file.

Remember to use the  'not'  or you will wipe out the other modules in 
that file.


Have fun

Wayne



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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-20 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Wayne Topa wrote:

 Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Wayne Topa wrote:
 
 Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Wayne Topa wrote:

 Jonathan Kaye wrote:

 
 --SNIP--
 
 Hi Wayne,
 So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
 which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be
 acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
 2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
 output to see if it's more like yours.
 ...
 aaarrrggg!
 This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
 #modprobe -v acer-wmi
 I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
 (/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
 device Back to square 1?
 Cheers,
 Jonathan
 Trymodprobe acer_wmi

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i acer /boot/coacer_wmi
 /boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m


 Wayne
 Thank you Wayne,
 I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m
 
 Change what??  The last line was a hint as to find out if the module
 was in the kernel or not.
 
 Just use modprobe acer_wmi, better yet do
 cat acer_wmi   /etc/modules
 which will add that module to the end of the /etc/modules file.
 
 Remember to use the  'not'  or you will wipe out the other modules in
 that file.
 
 Have fun
 
 Wayne
Hi Wayne,
What confused me was that I already did the modprobe acer_wmi (except that I
used the verbose -v switch) and I reported the result before my arrggghh.
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
device.
I tried that again and the same fatal error. I can do as you suggest and
manually insert the acer_wmi into the /etc/modules file.

BTW, in dmesg, the acer_wmi module is mentioned with the message that it
cannot be loaded because there is no interface. ??
This is not my machine so I can't verify anything at the moment but if you'd
like more info I'll post it in a few minutes.
Thanks again but not having fun yet,
Jonathan
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Re: Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-20 Thread Kevin Mitchell
I've been using ath9k in a 2.6.27-rc3 testing kernel and it works
great! The sureest bet would be to download and compile that kernel
which I've documented here:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_install_the_development_version_of_atk9k.
Alternatively, there is a thread in Ubuntu forums where a script has
been posted to compile ath9k for older kernels and build it as a .deb
package. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874097

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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-20 Thread Wayne Topa

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

--SNIP--


Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413
which according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be


Did the Compatibility page say that madwifi supported your card/adapter 
or not?



acer-wmi and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the
2.6.25 kernel so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig
output to see if it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggg!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such

 note acer-

device Back to square 1?
Cheers,
Jonathan

Trymodprobe acer_wmi

  ^^^ acer_   Not the same as above!


Thank you Wayne,
I'll change that to /boot/config-2.6.25-2-686:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m

Change what??  The last line was a hint as to find out if the module
was in the kernel or not.

Just use modprobe acer_wmi, better yet do
cat acer_wmi   /etc/modules
which will add that module to the end of the /etc/modules file.

Remember to use the  'not'  or you will wipe out the other modules in
that file.

Have fun

Wayne

Hi Wayne,
What confused me was that I already did the modprobe acer_wmi (except that I
used the verbose -v switch) and I reported the result before my arrggghh.
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such
device.


Thats why we need to see the wireless output of lspci -vvv


I tried that again and the same fatal error. I can do as you suggest and
manually insert the acer_wmi into the /etc/modules file.


Do that when/if you get it to see the card



BTW, in dmesg, the acer_wmi module is mentioned with the message that it
cannot be loaded because there is no interface. ??
This is not my machine so I can't verify anything at the moment but if you'd
like more info I'll post it in a few minutes.
Thanks again but not having fun yet,
Jonathan


I asked you for the output of lspci -vvv a few messages back but never 
got a response, so if you could show us that output (only the wireless 
interface part) it would help.


I thought I had also asked what wireless adapter you are trying to get 
working. I still don't know so without that information I am not able to 
do much more.


WT


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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-20 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Wayne Topa wrote:
Output of lspci -vvv
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC
(rev 01)
Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. Unknown device 0418
Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort-
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx-
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 3
Region 0: Memory at e201 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
[size=64K]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel modules: ath5k

Hmm. That's a little worrying. disabled? access denied?
Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:
Atheros AR5005G ΒΆ
Chipset:AR5005G = (AR2413)
Chip:   AR2413 (802.11b+g)
URL:http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR5005G.htm
Supports:   IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g
Working:not working with version 0.9.2, dmesg reports: unable to attach
hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)

Notes:  Several tickets indicate this; no response was ever given. However,
some users have reported success, but could not confirm this.

Notes:  Works perfectly on Slackware 11 (kernel 2.6.18.3) and madwifi 0.9.2.
Just modprobe ath_pci after compiling/installing. (this on an Acer 3102
wlmi)

Notes:  For Kernel 2.6.22.1 use trunk version (madwifi 0.9.3.1 release
doesn't compile): svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/madwifi/trunk
madwifi . That works perfectly (I'm running Slackware 12 on Acer 3102wlmi).

Notes:  SMC PCI card: OK for Slackware 12.1 (kernel 2.6.25.2), with
madwifi-0.9.4

Notes:  I can confirm that this chipset works great with the madwifi-ng
drivers on Debian Testing. Also monitor mode.

Notes:  chipset is AR1423, as you can see through URL

Notes:  This chipset works on the Acer Aspire 5040 if you install the
acer_acpi driver http://www.archernar.co.uk/acer_acpi/acer_acpi_main.html

Notes:  Works on the Acer Aspire 3053 if you reload the modules (see
http://rik.rikva.nl/?q=node/10) and then run depmod -a (as root)

Notes:  Works on the Acer Aspire 5051 using madwifi source pulled 2006-12-18
(OpenSuSE 10.2/x86_64)

Notes:  Works on the Acer Aspire 5100 using madwifi source (Mandriva
2007.0/x86_64)

Notes:  Cheap Ativa card works ok in gentoo. /etc/init.d/net.athx start does
not ifconfig athx up the device, so preferred wireless won't work

Notes:  Works out of the box with Ubuntu 7.10 and 6.06 

This all seems quite confusing, as many answers as there are different
notes.

Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used wifi
before as you can see.

I hope this is all the information you requested. Sorry to be so thick about
all this.
Thanks for your patience,
Jonathan

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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-20 Thread Wayne Topa

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:
Output of lspci -vvv
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC
(rev 01)
Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. Unknown device 0418
Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr-




Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:


Ah, you didn't find a listing for AMBIT Microsystem Corp.  That means, 
to me, that it is not compatible with madwifi.  If it was, AMBIT would 
have be listed there.


Google for AMBIT Microsystem Corp and see if they have any info on that 
card.


Contact Acer and ask them for information on that card.

Did you Acer come with WindBloz or Linux installed?
If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that 
card?  Does it have any software for that card installed?  Did the card 
work in WindBloz?  If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it 
working using the ndiswrapper package.


If it came with linux installed contact Acer for information on getting 
it working.


-- Snip info about AR5005G which may or may not apply --




Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used wifi
before as you can see.


No problem.  I have been there too.  I spent 2 months researching Wifi 
cards and adapters before I even thought about buying one.  My first 
priority was 'does it work with Linux'.  I now have 8 pcmcia/usb Wifi
working with Linux and one WindBloz pcmcia card on a Laptop my Son gave 
me.  Guess which ones I use.  :-)


Sorry I wasn't able to help you get it running.

Good luck!

Wayne


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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-19 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Wayne Topa wrote:

 Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Wayne Topa wrote:
 
 
 My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.

 Wayne
 None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to
 David also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but
 still couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without
 being near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
 Thanks again for all the help.
 Jonathan
 
 
 Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi?  Check out the
 Compatibility page on the madwifi site http://madwifi.org.  I have
 used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards.  Be sure to watch for the
 version of your card.  Many manufactures use different chips in the
 their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the
 version.  That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version
 number.
 
 Wayne
Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413 which
according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be acer-wmi
and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the 2.6.25 kernel
so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig output to see if
it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggg!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such device
Back to square 1?
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-19 Thread Wayne Topa

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:


Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:



My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.

Wayne

None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to
David also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but
still couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without
being near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
Thanks again for all the help.
Jonathan


Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi?  Check out the
Compatibility page on the madwifi site http://madwifi.org.  I have
used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards.  Be sure to watch for the
version of your card.  Many manufactures use different chips in the
their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the
version.  That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version
number.

Wayne

Hi Wayne,
So the mystery continues. The chipset (according to lspci) is AR2413 which
according to Madwifi compatibility = AR5005G. The driver must be acer-wmi
and NOT ath_pci which was what I tried. This is part of the 2.6.25 kernel
so I'll modprobe that one and report back on the ifconfig output to see if
it's more like yours.
...
aaarrrggg!
This is not going to be easy, is it? When I try
#modprobe -v acer-wmi
I get FATAL: Error inserting acer_wmi
(/lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/misc/acer-wmi.ko): No such device
Back to square 1?
Cheers,
Jonathan


Trymodprobe acer_wmi

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i acer /boot/config*
/boot/config-2.6.25-2-amd64:CONFIG_ACER_WMI=m


Wayne


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where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Hi all,
I'm trying to set up a wifi driver on an Acer Aspire 3500 running Debian
Lenny 2.6.25 with a 802.11b/g wlan. I did some heavy-duty googling and
found the madwifi website which then said that Atheros had taken over the
drivers and released the code. It seems I need an ath9k driver and that I
get it from atheros. This led me to the Linux Wireless website. I found a
link to the ath9k driver here:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k#Getthecode
The link on the above page is:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
and of course that link is broken. Aaarggghhh.
I then followed this link
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
and found the compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2 tarball. I got the latest version
which (I think) was 6 August 2008. I followed the instructions and built
the drivers but no ath9k! aaarrggg.
I loaded the drivers per the instructions and there is mac80211 and ath5k
but no ath9k.
At this link
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
I found the following instructions:
Enabling ath9k
To enable ath9k, you must first enable mac80211:
I'm not sure what enable means in this context but I modprobed mac80211
and it shows up in the lsmod list. Next came the very cryptic instructions:
Networking  ---
  Wireless  ---
M Improved wireless configuration API
M Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack (mac80211)
This seems to involve some sort of software but I haven't a clue what it
wants me to do. I am in a hopeless muddle now.

Can anyone give me some hints here.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread Wayne Topa

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Hi all,
I'm trying to set up a wifi driver on an Acer Aspire 3500 running Debian
Lenny 2.6.25 with a 802.11b/g wlan. I did some heavy-duty googling and
found the madwifi website which then said that Atheros had taken over the
drivers and released the code. It seems I need an ath9k driver and that I
get it from atheros. This led me to the Linux Wireless website. I found a
link to the ath9k driver here:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k#Getthecode
The link on the above page is:
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
and of course that link is broken. Aaarggghhh.
I then followed this link
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
and found the compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2 tarball. I got the latest version
which (I think) was 6 August 2008. I followed the instructions and built
the drivers but no ath9k! aaarrggg.
I loaded the drivers per the instructions and there is mac80211 and ath5k
but no ath9k.
At this link
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
I found the following instructions:
Enabling ath9k
To enable ath9k, you must first enable mac80211:
I'm not sure what enable means in this context but I modprobed mac80211
and it shows up in the lsmod list. Next came the very cryptic instructions:
Networking  ---
  Wireless  ---
M Improved wireless configuration API
M Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack (mac80211)
This seems to involve some sort of software but I haven't a clue what it
wants me to do. I am in a hopeless muddle now.

Can anyone give me some hints here.


ath9K?

I think you may have been misled. In the kernel config for kernel 
2.6.25-{2-3), there is a module called ath5k for the latest version of 
of madwifi.


From what I've read it does bring the interface us but people have not 
been able to associate with an AP yet.


I have not tried it yet myself due to other more pressing problems.

Wayne


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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 18 August 2008, Wayne Topa wrote:
 Jonathan Kaye wrote:
  Hi all,
  I'm trying to set up a wifi driver on an Acer Aspire 3500 running Debian
  Lenny 2.6.25 with a 802.11b/g wlan. I did some heavy-duty googling and
  found the madwifi website which then said that Atheros had taken over the
  drivers and released the code. It seems I need an ath9k driver and that I
  get it from atheros. This led me to the Linux Wireless website. I found a
  link to the ath9k driver here:
  http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k#Getthecode
  The link on the above page is:
  http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
  and of course that link is broken. Aaarggghhh.
  I then followed this link
  http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
  and found the compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2 tarball. I got the latest
  version which (I think) was 6 August 2008. I followed the instructions
  and built the drivers but no ath9k! aaarrggg.
  I loaded the drivers per the instructions and there is mac80211 and ath5k
  but no ath9k.
  At this link
  http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
  I found the following instructions:
  Enabling ath9k
  To enable ath9k, you must first enable mac80211:
  I'm not sure what enable means in this context but I modprobed mac80211
  and it shows up in the lsmod list. Next came the very cryptic
  instructions: Networking  ---
Wireless  ---
  M Improved wireless configuration API
  M Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack (mac80211)
  This seems to involve some sort of software but I haven't a clue what it
  wants me to do. I am in a hopeless muddle now.
 
  Can anyone give me some hints here.

 ath9K?

 I think you may have been misled. In the kernel config for kernel
 2.6.25-{2-3), there is a module called ath5k for the latest version of
 of madwifi.

  From what I've read it does bring the interface us but people have not
 been able to associate with an AP yet.

 I have not tried it yet myself due to other more pressing problems.

 Wayne

ath9k is for the 802.11n chips, ath5k for the a/b/g chips.  ath9k is newer
than ath5k.  Both are now lead by people from Atheros (they employed
the people who were leading the ath5k team) and both are incomplete and
are under heavy development.  I would suggest that you wait a couple of
kernel iterations before trying either of them for production use, and if you
can (i.e. you do not have an 11n chip) use madwifi for now.

Obviously in the long term as both ath?k drivers are entirely open source
rather than relying on a closed HAL they are preferable to madwifi.

David


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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread Wayne Topa

David Goodenough wrote:

On Monday 18 August 2008, Wayne Topa wrote:

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Hi all,

-- SNIP --


At this link
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
I found the following instructions:
Enabling ath9k
To enable ath9k, you must first enable mac80211:
I'm not sure what enable means in this context but I modprobed mac80211
and it shows up in the lsmod list. Next came the very cryptic
instructions: Networking  ---
  Wireless  ---
M Improved wireless configuration API
M Generic IEEE 802.11 Networking Stack (mac80211)
This seems to involve some sort of software but I haven't a clue what it
wants me to do. I am in a hopeless muddle now.

Can anyone give me some hints here.

ath9K?

I think you may have been misled. In the kernel config for kernel
2.6.25-{2-3), there is a module called ath5k for the latest version of
of madwifi.

 From what I've read it does bring the interface us but people have not
been able to associate with an AP yet.

I have not tried it yet myself due to other more pressing problems.

Wayne


ath9k is for the 802.11n chips, ath5k for the a/b/g chips.  ath9k is newer
than ath5k.  Both are now lead by people from Atheros (they employed
the people who were leading the ath5k team) and both are incomplete and
are under heavy development.  I would suggest that you wait a couple of
kernel iterations before trying either of them for production use, and if you
can (i.e. you do not have an 11n chip) use madwifi for now.

Obviously in the long term as both ath?k drivers are entirely open source
rather than relying on a closed HAL they are preferable to madwifi.



Thanks for that information David.  I have not been able to keep up with 
the progress

on the madwifi site but am glad that they are 'really' looking ahead.

My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.

Wayne




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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Wayne Topa wrote:


 
 My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.
 
 Wayne
None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to David
also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but still
couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without being
near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
Thanks again for all the help.
Jonathan

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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 18 August 2008, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 Wayne Topa wrote:
  My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.
 
  Wayne

 None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to David
 also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but still
 couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without being
 near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
 Thanks again for all the help.
 Jonathan

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Without a nearby AP it is kind of difficult, but you can get clues by looking 
at /var/log/syslog for madwifi related messages, and looking to see if there
is an interface included in the list you get from ip addr or ifconfig.

David


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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread Jonathan Kaye
David Goodenough wrote:

snip
 
 Without a nearby AP it is kind of difficult, but you can get clues by
 looking at /var/log/syslog for madwifi related messages, and looking to
 see if there is an interface included in the list you get from ip addr or
 ifconfig.
 
 David
Thanks for that David. I checked the syslog and there are a bunch of
messages relating to ath_pci and ath_hal. They don't seem very revealing;
nothing like bad driver or broken or missing. I'm not really sure
what I should be looking for.
The output of ifconfig is easier. Here it is (I've omitted the eth0 and lo
stuff)
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0e:9b:cf:bc:0c
  inet addr:172.26.0.4  Bcast:172.26.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
00-0E-9B-CF-BC-0C-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Does this look like it's happy with the driver?
Cheers,
Jonathan

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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 18 August 2008, Jonathan Kaye wrote:
 David Goodenough wrote:

 snip

  Without a nearby AP it is kind of difficult, but you can get clues by
  looking at /var/log/syslog for madwifi related messages, and looking to
  see if there is an interface included in the list you get from ip addr or
  ifconfig.
 
  David

 Thanks for that David. I checked the syslog and there are a bunch of
 messages relating to ath_pci and ath_hal. They don't seem very revealing;
 nothing like bad driver or broken or missing. I'm not really sure
 what I should be looking for.
 The output of ifconfig is easier. Here it is (I've omitted the eth0 and lo
 stuff)
 wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0e:9b:cf:bc:0c
   inet addr:172.26.0.4  Bcast:172.26.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

 wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
 00-0E-9B-CF-BC-0C-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

 Does this look like it's happy with the driver?
 Cheers,
 Jonathan

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Its a good start.  Now you need to try connecting to the great outside.

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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread Jonathan Kaye
David Goodenough wrote:
snip
 Does this look like it's happy with the driver?
 Cheers,
 Jonathan

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 Its a good start.  Now you need to try connecting to the great outside.
 
 David
OK, thanks David. We'll look for an AP and give it a try.
Cheers,
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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread Wayne Topa

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

Wayne Topa wrote:



My apologies to Jonathan for 'my' mis-information.

Wayne

None required, Wayne. I appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks to David
also. I tried the madwifi package ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan but still
couldn't get the wifi to work. Is there anyway of knowing (without being
near a wifi hotpoitn) if the installed driver is the correct one?
Thanks again for all the help.
Jonathan



Have you checked if your adapter works with madwifi?  Check out the 
Compatibility page on the madwifi site http://madwifi.org.  I have 
used, and am using, Netgear and D-Links cards.  Be sure to watch for the 
version of your card.  Many manufactures use different chips in the 
their cards without changing the Card part #, they just change the 
version.  That's from someone who got bit by getting the wrong version 
number.


Wayne


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Re: where is ath9k?

2008-08-18 Thread Wayne Topa

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

David Goodenough wrote:

snip

Without a nearby AP it is kind of difficult, but you can get clues by
looking at /var/log/syslog for madwifi related messages, and looking to
see if there is an interface included in the list you get from ip addr or
ifconfig.

David

Thanks for that David. I checked the syslog and there are a bunch of
messages relating to ath_pci and ath_hal. They don't seem very revealing;
nothing like bad driver or broken or missing. I'm not really sure
what I should be looking for.
The output of ifconfig is easier. Here it is (I've omitted the eth0 and lo
stuff)
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0e:9b:cf:bc:0c
  inet addr:172.26.0.4  Bcast:172.26.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
00-0E-9B-CF-BC-0C-65-74-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Does this look like it's happy with the driver?
Cheers,
Jonathan



Not to me it doesn't.  My madwifi systems do not have a wmaster0 
interface.  They do have an ath0 and wifi0.  I don't have any wifi card 
that shows a wmaster0 and I use 4 different card/drivers.


What adapter are you using?
what does lspci -vvv show for your adapter?

Wayne


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