Re: which one: xfig, dia or inkscape
Wawrzek Niewodniczanski, 22.09.2011: On 09/20/11 18:33, abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi every body, until now, I used xfig to draw my figures and graphs, but I am not satisfied, specially when I want to no latin caracters or formula (like in latex) AFAIR XFig was great for formulas and non-latin characters. I.e. see following link: http://epb.lbl.gov/xfig/drawing.html#text I didn't notice it during a quick look at the above link, but you can also use formulas written in latex notation as part of your xfig text. You have to set one of the text options to special. Googling for xfig latex special returns many hits, the first of which (for me) is http://epb.lbl.gov/xfig/latex_and_xfig.html The bottom of that page also describes how to use it with pdflatex. (An issue brought up by another poster.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110923103028.gc20...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: which one: xfig, dia or inkscape
On 09/20/11 18:33, abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi every body, until now, I used xfig to draw my figures and graphs, but I am not satisfied, specially when I want to no latin caracters or formula (like in latex) AFAIR XFig was great for formulas and non-latin characters. I.e. see following link: http://epb.lbl.gov/xfig/drawing.html#text Wawrzek -- Wawrzyniec (Wawrzek) Niewodniczan'ski - (niewod @ LinkedIn http://uk.linkedin.com/in/niewod) System Administrator - Engineering Services Team (XenServer) Citrix Systems, Building 101, Cambridge Science Park, CB4 0FY, Cambridge PhD in Quantum Chemistry, MSc in Molecular EngineeringM
Re: which one: xfig, dia or inkscape
abdelkader belahcene abelahc...@gmail.com writes: until now, I used xfig to draw my figures and graphs, but I am not satisfied, specially when I want to no latin caracters or formula (like in latex) The PostScript graphics produced by XFig could often easily be combined with LaTeX formulae thanks to the ‘psfrag’ package (as in: \usepackage {psfrag}.) Unfortunately, it's fundamentally incompatible with pdflatex(1). Alternatively, the graphics could be turned into any of the “editable” vector formats that could be referenced from within a LaTeX document (such as PIC, MetaPost, etc.) and manually edited to add all the necessary text and formulae. I tried inkscape it seems better ??? Inkscape is essentially the same, but it uses a standard format (SVG) for its graphics, instead of inventing its own (what XFig did, preasumably because there was no such a format at the time XFig was developed.) Also, both the SVG format and Inkscape itself, AIUI, have much better support for internationalization. Unfortunately, doing formulae in Inkscape is nowhere as easy as it's in LaTeX. There's, however, the pMMLtoSVG package, which is supposed to produce quality SVG rendering of formulae typeset in Presentation MathML. Also, there're a few converters from pseudo-TeX format to MathML (check, e. g., the ttm and latexml Debian packages.) I don't know whether pMMLtoSVG is currently in a usable state, though. (It's my opinion that the project would benefit should a few more volunteers join in.) what about dia ?? Dia has support for what I prefer to call “parametric graphics”. I. e., it could be extended by “plugins”, each providing a particular “parametric” shape. E. g., there could be a plugin that draws a star, which has the number of points as the parameter. To the best of my knowledge, it's the sole advantage of using Dia instead of either Inkscape or XFig. I want to a good choice. any idea thanks a lot -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86fwjoltjs@gray.siamics.net
which one: xfig, dia or inkscape
Hi every body, until now, I used xfig to draw my figures and graphs, but I am not satisfied, specially when I want to no latin caracters or formula (like in latex) I tried inkscape it seems better ??? what about dia ?? I want to a good choice. any idea thanks a lot
Re: which one: xfig, dia or inkscape
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 07:33:01PM +0200, abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi every body, until now, I used xfig to draw my figures and graphs, but I am not satisfied, specially when I want to no latin caracters or formula (like in latex) I tried inkscape it seems better ??? what about dia ?? Dia looks nice on screen, but its exported output (postscript etc.) is (or was?) awful. The fonts on screen might fit inside boxes, but would overflow them when you convert to a printable form. It's also far less capable than inkscape; I would only consider it if you need some of the specialised diagramming tools it provides that inkscape doesn't. Inkscape's postscript/PDF output are fine. The only glitch I saw was export of complex gradients to PDF, but I think that's fixed now. Personally, I'd go with inkscape. It's generally excellent. I now use it exclusively except for the occasional use of Xfig when I want pic output (for troff, when I don't want to write pic by hand). Its drawing model is nice, and as a previously heavy user of both Xfig and dia, I don't think I'm being too unbiased in saying that it's fairly clearly superior to both. The only exception with Xfig is its grid system (but you can define custom grids in inkscape) and object alignment (inkscape is better and more complex, but sometimes the simplistic Xfig way makes it easier to line things up). My only major beef with inkscape is that if you link to an image, it always defaults to an absolute path, and it's annoying to manually convert to relative. You need this if copying directory trees between different systems or else all your links become invalid. I've never put LaTeX formulae in any of the above; I would probably go with Xfig/eepic for that, or do the drawing directly in LaTeX. [but haven't tried either.] Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110920200729.gr3...@codelibre.net